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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Cincy is in cap hell. They paid a QB and two wide receivers at the top of the market and has a current pass rusher in Hendrickson that still needs a contract. They can't pay Hendrickson and Stewart.

I think we need a change to the CBA ... play on the field is going to start suffering as more and more teams are going to be paying half the cap to 5 players it's going to make the game suffer overall, and it's shortening the careers of players. I like the NBA system where older players contracts can count only partially against the cap.

I've been saying this for a long time. A lot of fans say well that's the market. I know it is but that doean't make it smart. No business is totally immune from the cost of doing business. No other business other than sports just keeps handing out larger and larger contracts because that's what everyone else does.

Owners are billionaires but most made their money in other fields. Football and it's operation is a seperate entity. They have limits in how much they can spend and still contnue to operate efficiently. Spend too much in one area and some other area will suffer. Pay 5 players top dollar and some other parts of the team will suffer. That's how you end up with a 2nd tier O line.

I disagree. The current system is not set up to allow for the teams that are really good at drafting to keep their players and on purpose. It will enable some of those good players to be available via trade or FA to those teams who struggle to draft well, resulting in the desired parity the NFL strives for. It's incumbent that those teams who draft well continue to do so, and the compensatory system ensures they have the ammo needed for that to work.

A change to that would allow for exactly what the NFL is trying to prevent with the cap. A few dominant teams with little to no chance for the rest the league to compete.
[ Edited by WINiner on May 16, 2025 at 5:43 PM ]
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Good sign when the player signs early. Feels like his head is in the game and wants to get started and focus on being a Pro. Bicker when you show them your metal after a couple years.

Good luck to the kid. Hope he is his own man and not anyone else. Aldon was great for a short bit, but became a basket case in the head.
Originally posted by WildBill:
Good sign when the player signs early. Feels like his head is in the game and wants to get started and focus on being a Pro. Bicker when you show them your metal after a couple years.

Good luck to the kid. Hope he is his own man and not anyone else. Aldon was great for a short bit, but became a basket case in the head.

Rookie contracts are easier than they were in the past but I think it's great when they sign quickly - by the player and team.

idk what Stewart is fighting cincy over, I haven't followed it, but cincy has always been a crappy franchise. They're just lucky they got burrow and Palmer - lucky years to have #1 pick.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Rookie contracts are easier than they were in the past but I think it's great when they sign quickly - by the player and team.

idk what Stewart is fighting cincy over, I haven't followed it, but cincy has always been a crappy franchise. They're just lucky they got burrow and Palmer - lucky years to have #1 pick.

I always give them a little credit for those two runner-up years, felled both times by you know who.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Rookie contracts are easier than they were in the past but I think it's great when they sign quickly - by the player and team.

idk what Stewart is fighting cincy over, I haven't followed it, but cincy has always been a crappy franchise. They're just lucky they got burrow and Palmer - lucky years to have #1 pick.

I think the rookie contract system reduced holdouts but also probably shortened careers because high pick rookies are more expensive now than they used to be.

I wish the NFL did more to allow veterans careers to be extended and allow teams to spend more time and effort to develop players. The average NFL career being just over 3 years is brutal.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Cincy is in cap hell. They paid a QB and two wide receivers at the top of the market and has a current pass rusher in Hendrickson that still needs a contract. They can't pay Hendrickson and Stewart.

I think we need a change to the CBA ... play on the field is going to start suffering as more and more teams are going to be paying half the cap to 5 players it's going to make the game suffer overall, and it's shortening the careers of players. I like the NBA system where older players contracts can count only partially against the cap.

I've been saying this for a long time. A lot of fans say well that's the market. I know it is but that doean't make it smart. No business is totally immune from the cost of doing business. No other business other than sports just keeps handing out larger and larger contracts because that's what everyone else does.

Owners are billionaires but most made their money in other fields. Football and it's operation is a seperate entity. They have limits in how much they can spend and still contnue to operate efficiently. Spend too much in one area and some other area will suffer. Pay 5 players top dollar and some other parts of the team will suffer. That's how you end up with a 2nd tier O line.

I disagree. The current system is not set up to allow for the teams that are really good at drafting to keep their players and on purpose. It will enable some of those good players to be available via trade or FA to those teams who struggle to draft well, resulting in the desired parity the NFL strives for. It's incumbent that those teams who draft well continue to do so, and the compensatory system ensures they have the ammo needed for that to work.

A change to that would allow for exactly what the NFL is trying to prevent with the cap. A few dominant teams with little to no chance for the rest the league to compete.

Even with the current system we still see a small number of teams that are actually good enough to win. Maybe not as dominant as the teams were in the 70s and 80s but bad franchises that are poorly run are still bad.

When I talk about sky high salaries I'm not talking about any single team. It's a league issue that needs to be addressed. The NFL is riding high now but several sports and businesses have reach a pinnacle only to tumble because they thought they could do just about anything. All industries need to be aware that they rely heavily on consumers. Make the product too expensive or uninteresting and consumers will look elsewhere. Salaries for players are skyrocketing and prices to view the games whether on media or in person keep increasing. Unfortunately income for fans isn't rising as fast.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Even with the current system we still see a small number of teams that are actually good enough to win. Maybe not as dominant as the teams were in the 70s and 80s but bad franchises that are poorly run are still bad.

When I talk about sky high salaries I'm not talking about any single team. It's a league issue that needs to be addressed. The NFL is riding high now but several sports and businesses have reach a pinnacle only to tumble because they thought they could do just about anything. All industries need to be aware that they rely heavily on consumers. Make the product too expensive or uninteresting and consumers will look elsewhere. Salaries for players are skyrocketing and prices to view the games whether on media or in person keep increasing. Unfortunately income for fans isn't rising as fast.

That's a whole different kettle of different fish. I've been wondering when TV deals were going to collapse for 20 years. The end result for the NBA seems to be coming to a head where games have become harder to find and the regular season games have been massively devalued by the cutups on youtube available 10 minutes after the end of the game. And yet Disney/ESPN/ABC, NBC, and Amazon decided to pay near $7B a year for NBA rights.
It'll have to come from the advertisers first. They'll stop paying the higher prices for commercials/promos and then it'll decrease the value to the network, and that'll make the contracts worth less. Of course this is far more likely to simply slow down the increase than it is to actually reverse and lower the value.
Originally posted by captveg:
It'll have to come from the advertisers first. They'll stop paying the higher prices for commercials/promos and then it'll decrease the value to the network, and that'll make the contracts worth less. Of course this is far more likely to simply slow down the increase than it is to actually reverse and lower the value.

The CBA protects the owners at least some ... if the next contract comes back at half as much per year it's going to be ROUGH. But that's a long time from now.
Used Georgia in CFB25 and got a pick 6 against Texas with Mykel
Scoots wrote: "That's a whole different kettle of different fish. I've been wondering when TV deals were going to collapse for 20 years. The end result for the NBA seems to be coming to a head where games have become harder to find and the regular season games have been massively devalued by the cutups on youtube available 10 minutes after the end of the game. And yet Disney/ESPN/ABC, NBC, and Amazon decided to pay near $7B a year for NBA rights." (me) I went cable-less years ago. Now, I don't even try to bother with TNT games. I sometimes listen to playoff games on the satellite radio. Or, like last night, skip it altogether. Read something about it the next morning.
[ Edited by Isosceles on May 25, 2025 at 11:25 PM ]
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.

Williams coming into the year was in contention for number 1 overall pick he had an ankle injury which did slow him down a bit but from a physical standpoint he is defeentely worth a top 5 pick

I like him a lot i think we finally have an EDGE opposite Bosa
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.

That ankle injury undoubtedly cost him money. I think it introduced enough doubt to where he was able to drop a few more spots to where the 49ers could pick him.

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised in a few years to hear a lot of talk about how several teams dropped the ball by letting him fall so far.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 28, 2025 at 8:01 AM ]
this guy's energy is freaking awesome. The tape and measurables are an easy sell, but you can see why they were all in on Mykel after spending time with him during the visit.

[ Edited by Heroism on May 28, 2025 at 9:23 AM ]
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