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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.
[ Edited by Monsterniner on Apr 30, 2025 at 8:11 PM ]
I remember when we drafted Aldon Smith there was a lot of skepticism, too but look what happened when he started playing. Hopefully, history repeats except the alcohol abuse part.
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.

Some of y'all just love being negative in every thread huh?
Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.

Some of y'all just love being negative in every thread huh?

I didn't really see his post as negative because he does need to improve his pass rush skills. He's known for being a good run stopper and has a chance to improve his pass rush skills with our coaching. If he accomplishes that he'll be a cornerstone on our dline for years.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.

Some of y'all just love being negative in every thread huh?

I didn't really see his post as negative because he does need to improve his pass rush skills. He's known for being a good run stopper and has a chance to improve his pass rush skills with our coaching. If he accomplishes that he'll be a cornerstone on our dline for years.

IMO, you're making it sound like he has barely any pass rushing skills right now. He isn't "bad" at pass rushing - he just needs to upgrade his arsenal of moves and become more consistent at things.

my guess is that we will see a lot of "near sacks" with him and he'll help others get sacks and/or make nice plays.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I tried to tell everyone they were going DL. I wanted Membou if he fell…I don't even know if they would have taken him.

they will add some guys next yr on the OL, much better class.

I do think the Raiders snagged Charles Grant right before us in the 3rd.

yeah, it's very possible,... there are some rumors over there talking about it,... they even include Caleb Rogers, the Texas Tech tackle, who had a 30-visit with the niners,... ol' Pete just took the 2 tackles we were probably most interested in with the 98th and 99th pick,... right from under our nose
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.

If you actually watch him rush the passer there is pass rush skills. There is nuance.
Originally posted by tankle104:
IMO, you're making it sound like he has barely any pass rushing skills right now. He isn't "bad" at pass rushing - he just needs to upgrade his arsenal of moves and become more consistent at things.

my guess is that we will see a lot of "near sacks" with him and he'll help others get sacks and/or make nice plays.

Line him up wide with better angles. Pin his ears back. I saw some good hand work there in some of his film. Theres absolutely some Aldon Smith to his game. Not saying he's gonna come in a dominated like that, but that tools are there. There's nuance, he's not like Stewart who's all athlete and kinda clueless as a football player.

last season before the injury.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 1, 2025 at 7:55 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Line him up wide with better angles. Pin his ears back. I saw some good hand work there in some of his film. Theres absolutely some Aldon Smith to his game. Not saying he's gonna come in a dominated like that, but that tools are there. There's nuance, he's not like Stewart who's all athlete and kinda clueless as a football player.

last season before the injury.


The kid is already nice and has plenty of moves in the bag(double swipe, long arm, bullrush). He doesn't need to add a single move. He just needs to apply them better and keep polishing and refining them(ie hand placement/timing, finishing footwork, setups, maturing his rush plan, etc). Pass rushers don't need a million moves. They need one move they're really good at(ideally something flexible you can use against all types of punchers) and a counter off that. Anything else is great but not necessary. This is why guys like Drake Jackson are so frustrating. They don't even have 1 move in the bag.

Nick Bosa was mainly beating guys with 1 move in college(double swipe) and nobody could stop him because 1) he was incredible at it 2) it worked against high/low punchers and inside/outside. He didn't truly add the power element to his rushing until he got to the NFL.
[ Edited by Heroism on May 1, 2025 at 8:42 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

He needs to develop pass-rush skills for that because he won't win that award only by setting the edge on 1st and 2nd down.

Some of y'all just love being negative in every thread huh?

I didn't really see his post as negative because he does need to improve his pass rush skills. He's known for being a good run stopper and has a chance to improve his pass rush skills with our coaching. If he accomplishes that he'll be a cornerstone on our dline for years.

IMO, you're making it sound like he has barely any pass rushing skills right now. He isn't "bad" at pass rushing - he just needs to upgrade his arsenal of moves and become more consistent at things.

my guess is that we will see a lot of "near sacks" with him and he'll help others get sacks and/or make nice plays.

Did I? If I was, that wasn't my intention lol...
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on May 1, 2025 at 8:29 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
IMO, you're making it sound like he has barely any pass rushing skills right now. He isn't "bad" at pass rushing - he just needs to upgrade his arsenal of moves and become more consistent at things.

my guess is that we will see a lot of "near sacks" with him and he'll help others get sacks and/or make nice plays.

Great another "near sack" guy. We already made someone the highest defensive player in the league for his near sack skills
It's really hard to say a player can or can't do something based on what he did in college. The scheme they were used in often dictates their production. I've heard some say that Williams will be much better at pass rushing in the wide 9. We won't know until we see him play in Saleh's defense.

I've seen RBs come out of college that rarely ever caught a pass then become a good receiver in the NFL. TEs that were used as blockers until they got in the NFL.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Line him up wide with better angles. Pin his ears back. I saw some good hand work there in some of his film. Theres absolutely some Aldon Smith to his game. Not saying he's gonna come in a dominated like that, but that tools are there. There's nuance, he's not like Stewart who's all athlete and kinda clueless as a football player.

last season before the injury.


The kid is already nice and has plenty of moves in the bag(double swipe, long arm, bullrush). He doesn't need to add a single move. He just needs to apply them better and keep polishing and refining them(ie hand placement/timing, finishing footwork, setups, maturing his rush plan, etc). Pass rushers don't need a million moves. They need one move they're really good at(ideally something flexible you can use against all types of punchers) and a counter off that. Anything else is great but not necessary. This is why guys like Drake Jackson are so frustrating. They don't even have 1 move in the bag.

Nick Bosa was mainly beating guys with 1 move in college(double swipe) and nobody could stop him because 1) he was incredible at it 2) it worked against high/low punchers and inside/outside. He didn't truly add the power element to his rushing until he got to the NFL.

Totally agree! Folks are so fixated on pure sack numbers sometimes. It's not like he had 4.5 sacks in 3 yrs lol.

there's nuance there. He's got all the tools to become a complete DE imo…like you said he needs to refine and polish up his pass rush plan. Kid is only 20. The upside is thru the roof and we know he's a day 1 starter on base downs.
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