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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Ahmad brooks

I like this ciomp

Aldon Smith is a better comp, same kind of players. Hopefully he is smarter than Aldon.
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Originally posted by 49ERGLENN:
His frame and size reminds me of two former players that did very well for us! Lean Mean Freddy Dean, and Charles Haley. We would all be thrilled if he turned out to either!

I like the Charles Haley comp even though the 49ers were more a 3-4 defense back then. Fred Dean was smaller, quicker DE and Williams is much bigger.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Campbell to the Eagles really sucks. So does Simmons being scooped up in KC.

Depends on how healthy Simmons is. He had the same injury that ended Richburg's career. There's no guarantee that he's ever back to 100%. There's still a lot of skepticism that he'll be ready to go for Week 1.

They put themselves in the situation to try though. Moore can hold it down while Simmons recovers, and means they don't have to entertain extending Taylor.

They're just a better ran franchise to us and we have to accept it. If we believed in Purdy enough he'd be signed to an 8 year deal so we can mess with his cap hits like the Chiefs have done.

Fair enough they gambled and won with Mahomes, but they had the foresight to evaluate him properly.

Our Front office are too stubborn and unwilling to be flexible on their pre conceived notions.

So much better ran, yet no one in the league seems to want their coaches or Front office personnel. Better ran, yet the Chiefs stay signing 49ers free agents.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The doom and gloom squad out in full force

They're hoping they're right so bad.

What's even funnier is they all worshipped the Chiefs' pick. You know, the guy who has major injury concerns and the same people would crap all over Lynch if we drafted him ourselves lol

Facts.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
maybe he had one slice on draft night lol also this..


Lol they look like the most stylish pizza delivery guys on the planet lol. That backpack lol. It's probably filled with quinoa, creatine, egg whites and salmon.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wouldn't say he was over drafted either - if it wasn't for the panthers over drafting a WR - he was expected to go there.

very rarely do you get a Myles garret or Nick Bosa prospect - most guys don't come into the NFL and are good at everything right away. This guy has a great foundation and potential to be an elite pass rusher. Idk why people are worried?

Hes everything you can ask for in a prospect outside of coming in as an elite pass rusher. He isn't a bad pass rusher at all, just raw. His edge setting game is insanely polished

I am not going to pretend that I wanted Mykel W. Most of us here had different players that we wanted, and at different positions as the first pick And some wanted Mykel W. from the beginning (Good for them) But now that we understand Lynch's and coach K.Kocurek "Main Goal" which was first find a find a Long Defensive Edge rusher To "first set the edge" and also Pressure the QB.

"Sacks" are the extra by-product of his High "Trait" of being a Really Solid run defender which he is
ie Just comparing Abdul Carter's was rated as a 83% run defender "which is good " But when you compare that with Mykel's 92% in run defense Well that speaks to his strength in the run dept. ..And of course Carter came in with a 100% pass rush rating , compared with Mykel's 80% but when you compare their overall rating factoring other metrics as well, Carter came in with an overall rating of: 91/100 compared to Mykel's solid and very good rating of: 87.7/100 not bad considering that he was playing with the "dreaded" high ankle sprain that takes months to heal sometimes ,And he sprained it around the 1'st or 2nd game of the season.

Watching Mykel play closely .You'll notice he would regularly cause so much disruption to the play in many ways that didn't turn into sacks but were either tip balls or tackles for a 1 or 2 yd run on an early down or he got a pressure and chased the Qb to one of his team mate's ,Which didn't register in his stats ,but really should've been his.

Btw speaking about pressures in 2023 he had 26 pressures and 14 stops and in 2024 he had 26 pressures and 16 stops all this playing on high ankle sprain (which for an edge rusher needing to anchor your foot to pivot for a swim move is crazy! to think that he had the production he had this year. But now that we know about him playing through his injury and you look at the Texas game where he played against Banks which we know was pick # 9 " another way that Mykel affects the game that doesn't show up in stats is His ability to create pressure in the pocket making opposing offenses having to double team him and forcing ,another rusher to make a play.

"Listen, when you see Williams being blocked by Kelvin Banks, and a extra guard and STILL find's his way to get to the QB, "there's a serious discussion on how high the man can be drafted' (Scouting evaluation of Mykel)

When they asked him "why he didn't want to rest his his ankle"? ..He said he didn't even think about not playing b/c ."those are my dog's I can't leave them ..if I have anything to say about it" ....That Shows his commitment to his team and the ability to play at a (high caliber) pace. Wow btw his production #'s were not what we expected by a a top 15 pick.But playing at "Richly Talented GEORGIA" as an edge rusher with all the rotational players that they play with he has to share playing time with other high end studs as well.If Mykle played at another program where he could get more rep's "There's no telling what his stat's would look like ? oh And if he was fully healthy! We see now what Lynch and coach K.Kocurek see in Mykle who are craving for a Top End Edge Rusher with a still high ceiling in his Pass Rushing ability... Especially after his SF positional coaching! , There's no telling where Mykel can go!
"Some draft reports had him as the second rated edge player".
[ Edited by Makit78 on Apr 27, 2025 at 7:29 PM ]
Originally posted by Makit78:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I wouldn't say he was over drafted either - if it wasn't for the panthers over drafting a WR - he was expected to go there.

very rarely do you get a Myles garret or Nick Bosa prospect - most guys don't come into the NFL and are good at everything right away. This guy has a great foundation and potential to be an elite pass rusher. Idk why people are worried?

Hes everything you can ask for in a prospect outside of coming in as an elite pass rusher. He isn't a bad pass rusher at all, just raw. His edge setting game is insanely polished

I am not going to pretend that I wanted Mykel W. Most of us here had different players that we wanted, and at different positions as the first pick And some wanted Mykel W. from the beginning (Good for them) But now that we understand Lynch's and coach K.Kocurek "Main Goal" which was first find a find a Long Defensive Edge rusher To "first set the edge" and also Pressure the QB.

"Sacks" are the extra by-product of his High "Trait" of being a Really Solid run defender which he is
ie Just comparing Abdul Carter's was rated as a 83% run defender "which is good " But when you compare that with Mykel's 92% in run defense Well that speaks to his strength in the run dept. ..And of course Carter came in with a 100% pass rush rating , compared with Mykel's 80% but when you compare their overall rating factoring other metrics as well, Carter came in with an overall rating of: 91/100 compared to Mykel's solid and very good rating of: 87.7/100 not bad considering that he was playing with the "dreaded" high ankle sprain that takes months to heal sometimes ,And he sprained it around the 1'st or 2nd game of the season.

Watching Mykel play closely .You'll notice he would regularly cause so much disruption to the play in many ways that didn't turn into sacks but were either tip balls or tackles for a 1 or 2 yd run on an early down or he got a pressure and chased the Qb to one of his team mate's ,Which didn't register in his stats ,but really should've been his.

Btw speaking about pressures in 2023 he had 26 pressures and 14 stops and in 2024 he had 26 pressures and 16 stops all this playing on high ankle sprain (which for an edge rusher needing to anchor your foot to pivot for a swim move is crazy! to think that he had the production he had this year. But now that we know about him playing through his injury and you look at the Texas game where he played against Banks which we know was pick # 9 " another way that Mykel affects the game that doesn't show up in stats is His ability to create pressure in the pocket making opposing offenses having to double team him and forcing ,another rusher to make a play.

"Listen, when you see Williams being blocked by Kelvin Banks, and a extra guard and STILL find's his way to get to the QB, "there's a serious discussion on how high the man can be drafted' (Scouting evaluation of Mykel)

When they asked him "why he didn't want to rest his his ankle"? ..He said he didn't even think about not playing b/c ."those are my dog's I can't leave them ..if I have anything to say about it" ....That Shows his commitment to his team and the ability to play at a (high caliber) pace. Wow btw his production #'s were not what we expected by a a top 15 pick.But playing at "Richly Talented GEORGIA" as an edge rusher with all the rotational players that they play with he has to share playing time with other high end studs as well.If Mykle played at another program where he could get more rep's "There's no telling what his stat's would look like ? oh And if he was fully healthy! We see now what Lynch and coach K.Kocurek see in Mykle who are craving for a Top End Edge Rusher with a still high ceiling in his Pass Rushing ability... Especially after his SF positional coaching! , There's no telling where Mykel can go!
"Some draft reports had him as the second rated edge player".

Excellent information on him - appreciate you sharing, I didn't know some of those specifics.

The person he reminds me of through play style in college, not his physical traits, is Justin smith. Just a game wrecker that can move around the line and wreak havoc. Can gobble up guys,set the edge, create opportunities for guys through the attention he demands.

he also seems like a huge team first guy, which is great. When you couple him with the other DL guys we picked AND bosa, I think we have something brewing. So much energy, violence, run stopping.. it's awesome.

Williams is young but the other DL guys we got, are older. More league ready than a typical :typical rookies physique wise. So hopefully the impact is more drastic than normal. I'm excited about this new DL
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Ahmad brooks

I like this ciomp

Aldon Smith is a better comp, same kind of players. Hopefully he is smarter than Aldon.

Aldon Smith could finish in college and he wasn't surrounded by a college all star team.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Excellent information on him - appreciate you sharing, I didn't know some of those specifics.

The person he reminds me of through play style in college, not his physical traits, is Justin smith. Just a game wrecker that can move around the line and wreak havoc. Can gobble up guys,set the edge, create opportunities for guys through the attention he demands.

he also seems like a huge team first guy, which is great. When you couple him with the other DL guys we picked AND bosa, I think we have something brewing. So much energy, violence, run stopping.. it's awesome.

Williams is young but the other DL guys we got, are older. More league ready than a typical :typical rookies physique wise. So hopefully the impact is more drastic than normal. I'm excited about this new DL
Yes, tankle104 (welcome) I think that Mykle W. brings so much to the Niner's that, We are still finding out details about his game that (I am sure the scouting dept) knew about him,That we didn't know yet. This was another scouting nugget about him

" I love how well he plays defenses and reads run plays while keeping his eyes on the open field. He's bullish in his approach, and the only knock on his game is how often his game can be put on hold, as the Bulldogs went for a lot of looks that didn't involve him". (Another reason his stats weren't as high as they could've been) ."Georgia coaches said that when Mykle was in the game, he impacted the defense in many other way's than just his own play "He basically elevated the whole Defense ! This was Mykle 's answer on what he wants from his rookie season ..."Mykel Williams on his ideal rookie season:
"I want to win a ring. We going to the Super Bowl my rookie year. That's a great way to start the career off. I want a ring. I also want 8 to 10 sacks. I ain't gonna lie to you. And I want whatever rookie award it is. Defensive Rookie .Gota Love his passion to be the best he can be.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Wanting an edge setting run plugging DE is about as valuable to a defence as a Fullback to an offense. If that is all he brings it's an absolutely wasted pick, so I don't care if that's his floor. He needs to become a productive pass rusher.

Doesn't need to be a 10+ sack number one type guy as we have Bosa, but he absolutely needs to win his 1v1's and apply consistent pressure, that is the floor.

Time will tell who is right, I shouldn't accuse others of drinking the Kool-aid, but having been there myself I do recognise the signs and symptoms!

I don't ever see Williams becoming a 15 sack guy, I think a realistic ceiling is 7-10 sacks while being a dominant run defender.

Obviously different kinds of players but I think he can be an Ahmad Brooks type in terms of impact. A guy that eats up the run, can create pressures and be a reliable + defender on a high level defense.
Williams can't even legally drink yet. There is a lot of time for his pass rush skills to develop, especially with Kocurek as his coach & Bosa as his fellow bookend.
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Williams can't even legally drink yet. There is a lot of time for his pass rush skills to develop, especially with Kocurek as his coach & Bosa as his fellow bookend.

He should try and get into Bosa's lab next off season for his workouts. Pick Nick and Joey's brain for a few months.
Honestly if he can stop the run that's already a huge plus.
Originally posted by Makit78:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Excellent information on him - appreciate you sharing, I didn't know some of those specifics.

The person he reminds me of through play style in college, not his physical traits, is Justin smith. Just a game wrecker that can move around the line and wreak havoc. Can gobble up guys,set the edge, create opportunities for guys through the attention he demands.

he also seems like a huge team first guy, which is great. When you couple him with the other DL guys we picked AND bosa, I think we have something brewing. So much energy, violence, run stopping.. it's awesome.

Williams is young but the other DL guys we got, are older. More league ready than a typical :typical rookies physique wise. So hopefully the impact is more drastic than normal. I'm excited about this new DL
Yes, tankle104 (welcome) I think that Mykle W. brings so much to the Niner's that, We are still finding out details about his game that (I am sure the scouting dept) knew about him,That we didn't know yet. This was another scouting nugget about him

" I love how well he plays defenses and reads run plays while keeping his eyes on the open field. He's bullish in his approach, and the only knock on his game is how often his game can be put on hold, as the Bulldogs went for a lot of looks that didn't involve him". (Another reason his stats weren't as high as they could've been) ."Georgia coaches said that when Mykle was in the game, he impacted the defense in many other way's than just his own play "He basically elevated the whole Defense ! This was Mykle 's answer on what he wants from his rookie season ..."Mykel Williams on his ideal rookie season:
"I want to win a ring. We going to the Super Bowl my rookie year. That's a great way to start the career off. I want a ring. I also want 8 to 10 sacks. I ain't gonna lie to you. And I want whatever rookie award it is. Defensive Rookie .Gota Love his passion to be the best he can be.

I love - seems really passionate about the game. I think some fans (just generally, no one specific on here) don't realize how many pros (basketball too) are actually passionate about the game. They aren't students of the game and its history and don't even watch the sport outside of playing in it. A good chunk of pros just play cause they've always done it and are good at it, it's a way to make a lot of money.

seems like a lot of the guys we got are in love with the game, which is fun to see. I'm thrilled that we got a lot of run stuffers this year. That was my biggest concern about having rookie playing all over - that they'd be good pass rushers but not good run stuffers. I'm very excited to hear how these guys are doing in camp and hope they stay healthy.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Ahmad brooks

I like this ciomp

Aldon Smith is a better comp, same kind of players. Hopefully he is smarter than Aldon.

Yea that's the comp everyone gives for any DE we draft. From what I see, I see an ahmaf Brooks type of player. Nothing wrong with that. Just not as optimistic that he all of a sudden becomes this next level pass rusher. I just don't see it. Like Brooks he can contribute in other ways.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Ahmad brooks

I like this ciomp

Aldon Smith is a better comp, same kind of players. Hopefully he is smarter than Aldon.

Yea that's the comp everyone gives for any DE we draft. From what I see, I see an ahmaf Brooks type of player. Nothing wrong with that. Just not as optimistic that he all of a sudden becomes this next level pass rusher. I just don't see it. Like Brooks he can contribute in other ways.

When he was drafted I heard comments that he was probably a better fit for the wide 9 than he was for the defense he played in at Georgia. We'll see.
Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
Originally posted by 49ERGLENN:
His frame and size reminds me of two former players that did very well for us! Lean Mean Freddy Dean, and Charles Haley. We would all be thrilled if he turned out to either!

I like the Charles Haley comp even though the 49ers were more a 3-4 defense back then. Fred Dean was smaller, quicker DE and Williams is much bigger.

Fred Dean was much smaller burt he was going up agianst smaller tackles back then. Deran played at about 230 lbs while going up against 280 lb tackles. Williams is about 270 playing against tackles that are 320 so the size difference is about the same.
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