49ers sign QB Mac Jones

I feel like there will be a very compelling book written about the post-Brady Belichick years in New England and how he was steadily losing his mind and collapsing everything around him.

It's a shame he is going to opt out of his contract next year because he is going to receive a TON of attention (and money thrown at him).

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I feel like there will be a very compelling book written about the post-Brady Belichick years in New England and how he was steadily losing his mind and collapsing everything around him.

You will get probably 90% on this from watching Pablo Torre Finds Out

Jones has done all you can ask of a backup. Just looking at the stats he's been about the same as Purdy. I'm not saying he's as good or better but the fact is he played very well in both games. When you consider he was without Kittle for both ganes and Jennings for all of one and most of the other then it's even more impressive,. Those are two of Brock's main targets.

Hat's off to Mac. Played through that knee injury late in the game and lead a good game winning drive. We at least know that he's more than capable if Purdy gets hurt again.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
That is not how it was at the time. One was a cocky drunk kid shouting out show me the money predraft in bars. A bit of a snot and perhaps not the type culture you want as the leader of your organization. While this is not related to skill it most certainly weighs a part. Remember the movie Draft Day and the number one QB had a birthday party and it was discovered not one of his college teammates showed up. Mac came across a bit like that.

Lance, while low play time was a winner in college. He had some impressive moments. Doing one's homework it could seem easy to see his ceiling was huge. You roll the dice. There is no wrong pick here at the time. Unfortunately ours didn't go to plan.

Fast forward, watching Mac yesterday his off field laugh and personality infectious. He's gritty and a full team player. I like him but Brock Purdy was the right choice.

Trey had to learn to play QB. Footwork, throwing motion, touch and anticipation. You don't draft a guy at #3 because he's the better athlete and you think you can teach him the basics.

Throw in playing division II where the defensive schemes are vanilla. That's just one more hurdle he had to jump.

We have seen it time and time again. Teams think they can draft an athlete make them a QB. I'm not a firm believer in thinking that's possible. IMO, Josh Allen is the only exception.

Originally posted by NinerTy:
It's a shame he is going to opt out of his contract next year because he is going to receive a TON of attention (and money thrown at him).

lol are we watching the same games? Mac has been ok. He has made some critical mistakes that some people would have ripped Purdy apart for. The strip sack from holding the ball too long last week. The critical INT late in the game yesterday. Getting caught in the endzone for the safety that easily could have lost the game. Etc.

He might get considered as a starter for a bad team next year. Thats about it.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
That is not how it was at the time. One was a cocky drunk kid shouting out show me the money predraft in bars. A bit of a snot and perhaps not the type culture you want as the leader of your organization. While this is not related to skill it most certainly weighs a part. Remember the movie Draft Day and the number one QB had a birthday party and it was discovered not one of his college teammates showed up. Mac came across a bit like that.

Lance, while low play time was a winner in college. He had some impressive moments. Doing one's homework it could seem easy to see his ceiling was huge. You roll the dice. There is no wrong pick here at the time. Unfortunately ours didn't go to plan.

Fast forward, watching Mac yesterday his off field laugh and personality infectious. He's gritty and a full team player. I like him but Brock Purdy was the right choice.

Trey had to learn to play QB. Footwork, throwing motion, touch and anticipation. You don't draft a guy at #3 because he's the better athlete and you think you can teach him the basics.

Throw in playing division II where the defensive schemes are vanilla. That's just one more hurdle he had to jump.

We have seen it time and time again. Teams think they can draft an athlete make them a QB. I'm not a firm believer in thinking that's possible. IMO, Josh Allen is the only exception.

That was the risk Kyle was willing to take for the player with that was projected to have a higher ceiling. The 49ers had just traded three 1st rounders and they wanted the lotto ticket, as opposed to the safe coupon. I didn't like Mac's antics in NE when he twice tried to injure a player - not a trait you want in a QB, but he's played well as a 49er and was clutch yesterday. The bomb to Pearsall on 4th down was very ballsy.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Goatie:
We should have picked Jones with out third pick rather than Lance. Jones is so much better than Lance will ever be.

Anyone who was objective could see that Lance should have been the last QB of the gorup taken.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
That is not how it was at the time. One was a cocky drunk kid shouting out show me the money predraft in bars. A bit of a snot and perhaps not the type culture you want as the leader of your organization. While this is not related to skill it most certainly weighs a part. Remember the movie Draft Day and the number one QB had a birthday party and it was discovered not one of his college teammates showed up. Mac came across a bit like that.

Lance, while low play time was a winner in college. He had some impressive moments. Doing one's homework it could seem easy to see his ceiling was huge. You roll the dice. There is no wrong pick here at the time. Unfortunately ours didn't go to plan.

Fast forward, watching Mac yesterday his off field laugh and personality infectious. He's gritty and a full team player. I like him but Brock Purdy was the right choice.

Trey had to learn to play QB. Footwork, throwing motion, touch and anticipation. You don't draft a guy at #3 because he's the better athlete and you think you can teach him the basics.

Throw in playing division II where the defensive schemes are vanilla. That's just one more hurdle he had to jump.

We have seen it time and time again. Teams think they can draft an athlete make them a QB. I'm not a firm believer in thinking that's possible. IMO, Josh Allen is the only exception.

Fans keep forgetting that Trey wasn't drafted to start right away. They were hoping to develop him behind JG but he wa sforced into action too soon. Teams draft QBs that aren't ready to play and hope they can develop them all the time. Anthony Richardson is arecent example The Colts drafted him base solely on his size and athleticism. Josh Allen was considered raw and unpolished when he was drafted. Lamar Jackson had to learn to be a pocket passer.

What the Niners did was nothing unusual. What was unusual was they happened to do it after Covid had cut the previous year short. Competion was watered down. It was just a bad year to be picking a QB.

You can see Mac loving life right now post game with his QB group. Probably quite a change from where he came from to be with our team culture

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NinerTy:
It's a shame he is going to opt out of his contract next year because he is going to receive a TON of attention (and money thrown at him).

lol are we watching the same games? Mac has been ok. He has made some critical mistakes that some people would have ripped Purdy apart for. The strip sack from holding the ball too long last week. The critical INT late in the game yesterday. Getting caught in the endzone for the safety that easily could have lost the game. Etc.

He might get considered as a starter for a bad team next year. Thats about it.

Mac has been pretty good imo when you consider the injuries we're dealing with on offense. Our top 3 WRs in terms of snaps yesterday were Pearsall, Bourne, and Skyy Moore. Tonges has performed admirably, but he's no Kittle obviously.

I don't think Jones is nearly as good as Purdy, but he's done well with what he has to work with.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
You can see Mac loving life right now post game with his QB group. Probably quite a change from where he came from to be with our team culture

Kind of sucks for a young player when you have to follow the GOAT Tom Brady. Those are some high expectations from the Organization and the Fanbase that are not realistic.

Also Tom Brady was able to make the team look better than they were. A young player is not going to be able to do that.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fans keep forgetting that Trey wasn't drafted to start right away. They were hoping to develop him behind JG but he wa sforced into action too soon. Teams draft QBs that aren't ready to play and hope they can develop them all the time. Anthony Richardson is arecent example The Colts drafted him base solely on his size and athleticism. Josh Allen was considered raw and unpolished when he was drafted. Lamar Jackson had to learn to be a pocket passer.

What the Niners did was nothing unusual. What was unusual was they happened to do it after Covid had cut the previous year short. Competion was watered down. It was just a bad year to be picking a QB.

That was also part of the reasoning he was a bad idea. The notion was we needed a QB on a rookie deal. People were saying it would take 3 years for Trey to be ready. After his 3rd year you have to declare his 5th year option. So even if there plan was to sit and develop him we were wasting the very thing People said we needed.

All the while hoping he could learn to play QB as good as the guy he was replacing.

None of it made any sense. The trade before having a target made no sense. Drafting Trey made no sense. I could have understood Fields but Trey made zero sense.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
You can see Mac loving life right now post game with his QB group. Probably quite a change from where he came from to be with our team culture

Agreed

Originally posted by Goatie:
We should have picked Jones with out third pick rather than Lance. Jones is so much better than Lance will ever be.

Jones, like Lance, wouldn't have been worth all they gave up to move to the third spot, but he still would have been available to them had they stayed at their original position, and at that point, would have been a far superior pick for their system. However, if they did, we might not have picked Brock the following year and I think Brock's mobility and mental toughness probably make him a better QB