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Dec 11, 2025 at 12:14 AM
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Oh no, and with this terrible draft history there we are, languishing at the bottom of the NFC West and a laughing stock around the NFL.
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Dec 11, 2025 at 10:27 AM
- miked1978
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Originally posted by maxsmart:
They've been horrible at drafting in the early rounds. I think that was Kyle's fault because he fell in love with a RB or TE or Kicker and drafted them too early in rd 3 instead of later. Then the scouts took over the draft in the later rounds and they did great drafting in rd 5, 6 and 7. I think/hope that they have done better in 2024 and 25
Over their first 7 drafts in the first 4 rounds, Shana-Lynch has made 21 poor draft picks and only 5 good picks. So only 20% of the picks were good, and 80% of their picks in rds 1-4 were bad.
It's amazing that they are good despite their horrible rd1-4 drafts. But they have drafted great in rd 5-7
Total Busted draft picks for 2017-2023 Shana-Lynch era in rounds 1-4: 21 of 26 picks in rds 1-4 were BUSTS
2017
Rd
1 Solomon Thomas (#3 overall pick) bust
2 Reuben Foster (#30 overall) bust
3 Ahkello Witherspoon bust
3 C. J. Beathard bust
4 Joe Williams bust
2018
1 Mike McGlinchey (#9 overall) 25 future pro-bowlers were still available
2 Dante Pettis bust
3 Tarvarius Moore bust
4 Kentavius Street bust
2019
3 Jalen Hurd bust
4 Mitch Wishnowsky bust
2020
1 Javon Kinlaw (#15 overall) bust
2021
1 Trey Lance #3 overall – traded 3 first round picks bust
3 Trey Sermon bust
3 Ambry Thomas bust
2022
2 Drake Jackson bust
3 Tyrion Davis-Price bust
3 Danny Gray bust
2023
3 Ji'Ayir Brown bust+/-
3 Jake Moody bust
3 Cameron Latu bust
Only FIVE good draft picks for ShanaLynch era in rounds 1-4: for first seven draft years from 2017 -2023
2017 Zero good picks - five picks in rd 1-4 all busts incl. two FRP
2018
3 Fred Warner
2019
1 Nick Bosa (#2 overall)
2 Deebo Samuel (#35 overall)
2020
1 Brandon Aiyuk
2021
2 Aaron Banks - not a good pick for early rd 2
Now pick a team, any team, and do them using your same scoring method. Here i'll help you and do the Rams and use your same logic. 24 of 29 ae busts!!! It's almost as if drafting is hard.
Gerald Everett - bust
Cooper Kupp - good
John Johnson - bust
Josh Reynolds - bust
Samson Ebukam - bust
Joseph Noteboom - bust
Brian Allen - bust
John Franklin-Myers- good
Taylor Rapp- bust
Darrell Henderson- bust
David Long Jr. - bust
Bobby Evans- bust
Greg Gaines- bust
Cam Akers- bust
Van Jefferson- bust
Terrell Lewis- bust
Terrell Burgess- bust
Brycen Hopkins- bust
Tutu Atwell – ok I guess
Ernest Jones- bust
Bobby Brown III - bust
Robert Rochell- bust
Jacob Harris- bust
Logan Bruss- bust
Decobie Durant- bust
Steve Avila- bust
Byron Young - ok
Kobie Turner - ok
Stetson Bennett- bust
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:30 AM
- glorydayz
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
They've been horrible at drafting in the early rounds. I think that was Kyle's fault because he fell in love with a RB or TE or Kicker and drafted them too early in rd 3 instead of later. Then the scouts took over the draft in the later rounds and they did great drafting in rd 5, 6 and 7. I think/hope that they have done better in 2024 and 25
Over their first 7 drafts in the first 4 rounds, Shana-Lynch has made 21 poor draft picks and only 5 good picks. So only 20% of the picks were good, and 80% of their picks in rds 1-4 were bad.
It's amazing that they are good despite their horrible rd1-4 drafts. But they have drafted great in rd 5-7
Total Busted draft picks for 2017-2023 Shana-Lynch era in rounds 1-4: 21 of 26 picks in rds 1-4 were BUSTS
2017
Rd
1 Solomon Thomas (#3 overall pick) bust
2 Reuben Foster (#30 overall) bust
3 Ahkello Witherspoon bust
3 C. J. Beathard bust
4 Joe Williams bust
2018
1 Mike McGlinchey (#9 overall) 25 future pro-bowlers were still available
2 Dante Pettis bust
3 Tarvarius Moore bust
4 Kentavius Street bust
2019
3 Jalen Hurd bust
4 Mitch Wishnowsky bust
2020
1 Javon Kinlaw (#15 overall) bust
2021
1 Trey Lance #3 overall – traded 3 first round picks bust
3 Trey Sermon bust
3 Ambry Thomas bust
2022
2 Drake Jackson bust
3 Tyrion Davis-Price bust
3 Danny Gray bust
2023
3 Ji'Ayir Brown bust+/-
3 Jake Moody bust
3 Cameron Latu bust
Only FIVE good draft picks for ShanaLynch era in rounds 1-4: for first seven draft years from 2017 -2023
2017 Zero good picks - five picks in rd 1-4 all busts incl. two FRP
2018
3 Fred Warner
2019
1 Nick Bosa (#2 overall)
2 Deebo Samuel (#35 overall)
2020
1 Brandon Aiyuk
2021
2 Aaron Banks - not a good pick for early rd 2
Now pick a team, any team, and do them using your same scoring method. Here i'll help you and do the Rams and use your same logic. 24 of 29 ae busts!!! It's almost as if drafting is hard.
Gerald Everett - bust
Cooper Kupp - good
John Johnson - bust
Josh Reynolds - bust
Samson Ebukam - bust
Joseph Noteboom - bust
Brian Allen - bust
John Franklin-Myers- good
Taylor Rapp- bust
Darrell Henderson- bust
David Long Jr. - bust
Bobby Evans- bust
Greg Gaines- bust
Cam Akers- bust
Van Jefferson- bust
Terrell Lewis- bust
Terrell Burgess- bust
Brycen Hopkins- bust
Tutu Atwell – ok I guess
Ernest Jones- bust
Bobby Brown III - bust
Robert Rochell- bust
Jacob Harris- bust
Logan Bruss- bust
Decobie Durant- bust
Steve Avila- bust
Byron Young - ok
Kobie Turner - ok
Stetson Bennett- bust
I understand your logic here, but as a 49ers fan I don't care about what other teams are doing.
Crazy thing is, we are right back in the thick of things with that drafting history and a ton of injuries. Why argue this stuff now???
I am hard on our team, but if it works lets acknowledge that too. GO NINERS!!!
Dec 11, 2025 at 12:11 PM
- miked1978
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
I understand your logic here, but as a 49ers fan I don't care about what other teams are doing.
Crazy thing is, we are right back in the thick of things with that drafting history and a ton of injuries. Why argue this stuff now???
I am hard on our team, but if it works lets acknowledge that too. GO NINERS!!!
I understand. The point i'm trying to make is a handful of guys on here love to s**t on the draft picks and act like drafting is so easy but don't realize the other 31 teams in the NFL are doing the same exact thing. Whats even crazier is despite the bad picks and injury luck we are in the middle of a dang playoff hunt but yet here we are complaining.
When the Niners made the trade to eventually select Trey Lance i swore that trade would either make or break this regime regardless who they picked. They barely even skipped a beat. No doubt in my mind if Warner and Bosa wasn't injured we'd be the strong favorites to win a Super Bowl this year.
Dec 11, 2025 at 12:55 PM
- bud49
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Is she still hurt?
Dec 11, 2025 at 1:33 PM
- Since07
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Originally posted by bud49:
Is she still hurt?
She in that doghouse
Dec 11, 2025 at 1:34 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Another wasted pick. Oh well!
Yup.. everyone knows if you don't play well your first year, you can never be a good player.
It's amazing. So many bad teams in the NFL and we have all these potential GMs right here on this forum. They never miss on their picks. /s
Dec 11, 2025 at 1:55 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
They've been horrible at drafting in the early rounds. I think that was Kyle's fault because he fell in love with a RB or TE or Kicker and drafted them too early in rd 3 instead of later. Then the scouts took over the draft in the later rounds and they did great drafting in rd 5, 6 and 7. I think/hope that they have done better in 2024 and 25
Over their first 7 drafts in the first 4 rounds, Shana-Lynch has made 21 poor draft picks and only 5 good picks. So only 20% of the picks were good, and 80% of their picks in rds 1-4 were bad.
It's amazing that they are good despite their horrible rd1-4 drafts. But they have drafted great in rd 5-7
Total Busted draft picks for 2017-2023 Shana-Lynch era in rounds 1-4: 21 of 26 picks in rds 1-4 were BUSTS
2017
Rd
1 Solomon Thomas (#3 overall pick) bust
2 Reuben Foster (#30 overall) bust
3 Ahkello Witherspoon bust
3 C. J. Beathard bust
4 Joe Williams bust
2018
1 Mike McGlinchey (#9 overall) 25 future pro-bowlers were still available
2 Dante Pettis bust
3 Tarvarius Moore bust
4 Kentavius Street bust
2019
3 Jalen Hurd bust
4 Mitch Wishnowsky bust
2020
1 Javon Kinlaw (#15 overall) bust
2021
1 Trey Lance #3 overall – traded 3 first round picks bust
3 Trey Sermon bust
3 Ambry Thomas bust
2022
2 Drake Jackson bust
3 Tyrion Davis-Price bust
3 Danny Gray bust
2023
3 Ji'Ayir Brown bust+/-
3 Jake Moody bust
3 Cameron Latu bust
Only FIVE good draft picks for ShanaLynch era in rounds 1-4: for first seven draft years from 2017 -2023
2017 Zero good picks - five picks in rd 1-4 all busts incl. two FRP
2018
3 Fred Warner
2019
1 Nick Bosa (#2 overall)
2 Deebo Samuel (#35 overall)
2020
1 Brandon Aiyuk
2021
2 Aaron Banks - not a good pick for early rd 2
Now pick a team, any team, and do them using your same scoring method. Here i'll help you and do the Rams and use your same logic. 24 of 29 ae busts!!! It's almost as if drafting is hard.
Gerald Everett - bust
Cooper Kupp - good
John Johnson - bust
Josh Reynolds - bust
Samson Ebukam - bust
Joseph Noteboom - bust
Brian Allen - bust
John Franklin-Myers- good
Taylor Rapp- bust
Darrell Henderson- bust
David Long Jr. - bust
Bobby Evans- bust
Greg Gaines- bust
Cam Akers- bust
Van Jefferson- bust
Terrell Lewis- bust
Terrell Burgess- bust
Brycen Hopkins- bust
Tutu Atwell – ok I guess
Ernest Jones- bust
Bobby Brown III - bust
Robert Rochell- bust
Jacob Harris- bust
Logan Bruss- bust
Decobie Durant- bust
Steve Avila- bust
Byron Young - ok
Kobie Turner - ok
Stetson Bennett- bust
Wow Taylor Rapp as a Ram had 9 picks in four seasons, that's a bust?
John Johnson in four seasons, 8 picks. Bust?
Joseph Noteboom started 71 games for the Rams, that's a bust?
I could go on about your list and players being a bust, but I think you and me define bust differently.
Dec 11, 2025 at 2:06 PM
- gotem
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Originally posted by bud49:
Is she still hurt?
It was reported a while back that he was supposed to activated after the bye with YGM. But only YGM was activated it seems
Dec 11, 2025 at 2:21 PM
- plummerfan
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Larry Kreuger or however it's spelt from Pig and a Pickle sponsorship, mentioned he can't climb the depth chart now this deep in the season, especially with the punt return guy Sky Moore getting more reps and doing better at this point. Let alone we have Kendrick Bourne -
Demarcus Robinson
Ricky Pearsall
Jauan Jennings
So unless there's an injury to these guys, don't count on him being elevated. It's clear the 49ers are focused once again at the D-line
Demarcus Robinson
Ricky Pearsall
Jauan Jennings
So unless there's an injury to these guys, don't count on him being elevated. It's clear the 49ers are focused once again at the D-line
Dec 11, 2025 at 2:27 PM
- 9moon
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Originally posted by plummerfan:
Larry Kreuger or however it's spelt from Pig and a Pickle sponsorship, mentioned he can't climb the depth chart now this deep in the season, especially with the punt return guy Sky Moore getting more reps and doing better at this point. Let alone we have Kendrick Bourne -
Demarcus Robinson
Ricky Pearsall
Jauan Jennings
So unless there's an injury to these guys, don't count on him being elevated. It's clear the 49ers are focused once again at the D-line
wasted... I can't believe we keep drafting his type of a WR then not use or even give him a chance..
Instead we stay w/a sorry Kenrick " Dance w/the Star " ...
Dec 11, 2025 at 2:35 PM
- plummerfan
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by plummerfan:
Larry Kreuger or however it's spelt from Pig and a Pickle sponsorship, mentioned he can't climb the depth chart now this deep in the season, especially with the punt return guy Sky Moore getting more reps and doing better at this point. Let alone we have Kendrick Bourne -
Demarcus Robinson
Ricky Pearsall
Jauan Jennings
So unless there's an injury to these guys, don't count on him being elevated. It's clear the 49ers are focused once again at the D-line
wasted... I can't believe we keep drafting his type of a WR then not use or even give him a chance..
Instead we stay w/a sorry Kenrick " Dance w/the Star " ...
I agree, I mean, you would think putting Cowing and Moore on the field for at least one deep ball a game would be nice. But it is what it is, I just hope they stop neglecting the o-line.
Dec 11, 2025 at 3:18 PM
- TopDogBerkeley
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Cowing's future is tied to Skyy Moore's contract negotiations. If Moore is extended then Cowing might not have a place on this team.
Dec 11, 2025 at 4:38 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
Cowing's future is tied to Skyy Moore's contract negotiations. If Moore is extended then Cowing might not have a place on this team.
I don't recall him making an impact on special teams even before he got hurt.
Dec 11, 2025 at 5:35 PM
- braap49er
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What kind of hamstring injury did this guy have for him to be on IR this long?
