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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by raywm3:
Very disappointed in our defense. We have by FAR.... FFFFAAAAARRRRRRRRR the best defense in the NFL on paper and the production is barely above average. This is a problem

The production is barely above average? In what world?

No kidding!!! The 49ers are #1 in INT's. Only allowed one more passing TD than the greatest defense to ever walk the planet the Browns defense. Allowed the same amount of rushing TD's than the greatest defense to ever walk the planet the Browns defense. f**k yards, 49ers are 5-1, 49ers defense is stout and about to unleash a new side with Randy gregory!!!

Points per game - 14.5, which is currently ranked 1st. That's the stat that matters most.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by raywm3:
Very disappointed in our defense. We have by FAR.... FFFFAAAAARRRRRRRRR the best defense in the NFL on paper and the production is barely above average. This is a problem

The production is barely above average? In what world?

No kidding!!! The 49ers are #1 in INT's. Only allowed one more passing TD than the greatest defense to ever walk the planet the Browns defense. Allowed the same amount of rushing TD's than the greatest defense to ever walk the planet the Browns defense. f**k yards, 49ers are 5-1, 49ers defense is stout and about to unleash a new side with Randy gregory!!!

Points per game - 14.5, which is currently ranked 1st. That's the stat that matters most.

Preach.
Started with a bang but has disappeared
Safe to say that the Eagles don't really give a s**t anymore that we took their player
This dude needs to start living up to his pay. What a major disappointment so far.
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
This dude needs to start living up to his pay. What a major disappointment so far.

The whole DL as a whole, not just Javon
Good but I thought he would be better. Teams run up the gut at will against us. He doesn't get a huge amount of pass rush over time. I don't know? Not worth the salary at this point. But gives flashes.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Oct 29, 2023 at 9:28 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Good but I thought he would be better. Teams run up the gut at will against us. He doesn't get a huge amount of pass rush over time. I don't know? Not worth the salary at this point. But gives flashes.

He's good but I oddly feel like it doesn't help. He is a bit redundant to AA who seems to have slowed a step this year. Neither are very stout at stoping the run.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Good but I thought he would be better. Teams run up the gut at will against us. He doesn't get a huge amount of pass rush over time. I don't know? Not worth the salary at this point. But gives flashes.

He's good but I oddly feel like it doesn't help. He is a bit redundant to AA who seems to have slowed a step this year. Neither are very stout at stoping the run.

I absolutely can't believe how much we get bulldozed right up the middle with the run. With these 2 and Warner in the middle. It's unacceptable. Just unreal.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Safe to say that the Eagles don't really give a s**t anymore that we took their player

Jalen Carter pff to-date 91
Javon Horgrave 76
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
This dude needs to start living up to his pay. What a major disappointment so far.

Remember when our defense took off in 2019 and Solomon Thomas was still terrible? It was easy and appropriate to blame him for his failures then. When it's 9 or 10 of the guys on the defense that are playing below their standard week after week, it's the coaching. Hargrave, Bosa, and AA all of a sudden morph into backup level talent? QBs completing passes at an 80% clip? Can't wait for Jonnydel to break this film down.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
This dude needs to start living up to his pay. What a major disappointment so far.

S/h got Brown instead.

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[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 30, 2023 at 3:41 AM ]
Is he still on the team? I have not seen him or heard his name in a long time …
he's a pass rusher specialist and overall he's done that as a DT. He's not aaron Donald. He's never been great vs the run and that is clear.

go watch Sherman's comments about this D. He's spot on. Wilks is f**king this s**t up. He's running more man and we don't have a bunch of man corners. He's not doing the W9 concepts and that's what our team is built for.

Go look at Wilks D in NC. Man corners all over the place. Kyle asked him to continue running THIS scheme. I think having to look outside for a DC has hurt this squad.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
he's a pass rusher specialist and overall he's done that as a DT. He's not aaron Donald. He's never been great vs the run and that is clear.

go watch Sherman's comments about this D. He's spot on. Wilks is f**king this s**t up. He's running more man and we don't have a bunch of man corners. He's not doing the W9 concepts and that's what our team is built for.

Go look at Wilks D in NC. Man corners all over the place. Kyle asked him to continue running THIS scheme. I think having to look outside for a DC has hurt this squad.

It's such a bummer. I thought having an older more experienced DC as a sounding board would help Kyle. But unfortunately, he's added more stress to Kyle. Right idea. Wrong DC.
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