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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Coach had clown clock mgmt there, but it's a QBs job to own it he's the guy out on the field executing. I am sure that is what BP did I haven't even seen the clip but knowing Brock, no question.
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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
This is why I don't get too much into the "PURDY IS THE ONE! HE'S OUR NEXT FRANCHISE QB! ANOINT HIM!" chatter.
Dak Prescott's first couple years in Dallas were phenomenal because he had an elite offensive line + Ezekiel Elliot, before all the wear and tear. He looked fantastic and people were saying he's going to be an elite QB for a long time.
Then they awarded him with a big contract, and some of those things went away... He showed himself to be a good, fringe top 10 QB that could go on a tear... but has had a number of games like yesterday, when he just didn't have the poise to win a playoff game in a high-stakes environment.

Sky is Falling, Worst-case scenario: Purdy could be the same thing, where he looks amazing this year and next. He grows as a QB, and then we give him a big contract. But by that time... Trent Williams and Juice probably retire. Kittle is older, probably on his way out. CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk may or may not be here. We can't afford the loaded surrounding cast, and he turns out to be a good, but not great QB, on an overinflated contract.

Best-case scenario: Purdy's ceiling is a lot higher than people realized. All the comparisons to Brady, Brees, Montana are warranted... He's a QB that plays with a lot of poise, and as he extends his contract, we reload and get more playmakers for him, and the 49ers continue to win with him at the helm.

FORTUNATELY, we have him on a rookie contract for a few more years. We don't need to make the decision on whether to extend him for big money now. We have some time to figure out what kind of QB he is and we'll have this surrounding cast too, so we can make a good run with him at QB now.



Just let go of your doubt, brother. It serves no purpose other than to let negativity creep in. Either way things will play out the way they play out. Put your #13 jersey on and cheer like a little kid. Just my two cents.
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

Why was he mad at Brock, it was his fault?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The entire post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Jan 23, 2023 at 10:43 AM ]
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Coach had clown clock mgmt there, but it's a QBs job to own it he's the guy out on the field executing. I am sure that is what BP did I haven't even seen the clip but knowing Brock, no question.

I don't have the game log in front of me, but IIRC, we ran the ball twice, got to 3rd and 1, and then called our last timeout with like 30 seconds to go, at like midfield.
If we don't convert 3rd and 1, we punt the ball to the Cowboys with less than 30 seconds to go.

I don't have a problem with the clock management---everything about that was calculated. Awkward, but calculated, and definitely conservative. I can certainly see why people would call that a lack of faith in Purdy and/or the offensive line. But given how tough the Cowboys defense was playing at that moment, I can understand the conservatism.

Ultimately, we got exactly what they wanted from that situation---they drained the clock, kicked a field goal and denied the Cowboys an opportunity to possess in the end.
Was it awkward? Yes. Was there little margin for error? Yes. But the end result is exactly what they were looking for, and from the get-go, you could see that they were going for a field goal + deny the Cowboys a possession.

But yeah, Shanahan was justified to be mad at Purdy in that moment. 7 seconds to go, in field goal range, no timeouts... the play is: You make one read to your outside receiver, and throw it so that he catches the ball and goes out of bounds.... or you throw it in his direction as a throwaway. Instead, he scrambled around and got lucky that we had one second remaining on the clock.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The entire post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

To elaborate on this reply of mine, here is Shanahan speaking on all of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnibUngosD4

At 2:40 he explains being "mad" (LOL) at Brock. At 6:45 he explains the end of the first half. The post you replied to is laughable.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Jan 23, 2023 at 10:53 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.

We don't know exactly what was said because he was covering his mouth with the play sheet but you could see he was upset.

We also got to see purdy's face which to me looked like he was rolling his eyes. Somebody will have to grab it though.

Even having words to him about a problem that was not a problem after that series seems absurd to me.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

Its called coaching. everyone gets coached when the could do something better.

how would we ever know if KS was "mad" ?
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.

We don't know exactly what was said because he was covering his mouth with the play sheet but you could see he was upset.

We also got to see purdy's face which to me looked like he was rolling his eyes. Somebody will have to grab it though.

Even having words to him about a problem that was not a problem after that series seems absurd to me.

Watch both of their press conferences. They talk about it. Kyle even gives explanation for his clock management.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

Its called coaching. everyone gets coached when the could do something better.

how would we ever know if KS was "mad" ?

Purdy: "Yeah. I looked left, I didn't see, our read was covered. So, I thought I had a little bit more time than I had in terms of looking back right to [WR] Deebo [Samuel]. And obviously it was a pretty close call, so I've just got to be better with, if it's not there, throw the ball away. So, he coached me up on and got on me, rightfully so."

Purdy: "He said you just got to be better. I told you if it's not there, throw it away. So, I thought I had a little bit more time and looked left, looked right, and just made it close."

It's clear that the play was to (1) throw it to the WR if it's open, let him catch the ball and go out of bounds to stop the clock, or (2) throw the ball in his vicinity and throw it out of bounds immediately. Whatever we feel about how that drive went, the play with 7 seconds to go, in field goal range, was to make a quick decision to either throw to the receiver or away.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Coach had clown clock mgmt there, but it's a QBs job to own it he's the guy out on the field executing. I am sure that is what BP did I haven't even seen the clip but knowing Brock, no question.

I don't have the game log in front of me, but IIRC, we ran the ball twice, got to 3rd and 1, and then called our last timeout with like 30 seconds to go, at like midfield.
If we don't convert 3rd and 1, we punt the ball to the Cowboys with less than 30 seconds to go.

I don't have a problem with the clock management---everything about that was calculated. Awkward, but calculated, and definitely conservative. I can certainly see why people would call that a lack of faith in Purdy and/or the offensive line.

It was and players feel that imo. They know in that moment that coach is betting against them. They aren't robots. They get it.
Originally posted by Heroism:

Yikes, that's insane. THAT is why the gameplan was hyper conservative.
If we were airing it out, we would've either gotten Purdy killed or the Cowboys could've forced an error like a sack and/or turnover.
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