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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Play it in real time and you can see Brock didn't have much time to go through the read. Just throwing the ball away and not taking a sack is a win on that play.

sucks because with one more second Kittle had a shot a catching a pass.

If you pause at the time of the throw I legit thought BCB was doing his take on The Catch here

George will clear.. if it's not there.. simply throw the ball away

I did too.
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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^
Brock didn't turn the ball over vs the defense that forced the most turnovers this year. Can't wait to see what he was looking at. Pass rush was good but Brock usually gets rid of the ball sooner than what he was doing tonight. I'm guessing it was tight man and it didn't look anything like what SEA was doing. Didn't take bad sacks, didn't turn the ball over and managed to get the win while making key throws in the second half. Experience building game.

Right before 1/2 time, I was impressed that he got rid of the ball so we at least got a chance for the field goal.
Showed great awareness that a lot of veterans could have screwed up.

Should he probably have thrown it away sooner?

I didn't understand why Kyle didn't work the clock better here.

I think so. Purdy got lucky there, but I am sure Kyle made sure Purdy learned from this mistake.
[ Edited by libertyforever on Jan 23, 2023 at 9:53 AM ]
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by JDTical:
Yes, of course, money is a factor. The original post I was replying to was comparing Purdy's performance (which I described as a 'rookie' performance) directly with Allen, Prescott, Jones and Lawrence. In a vacuum I think you take any of those guys over Purdy without hesitation, or at least I would. That was the only point I was making. It's obviously not an apples to apples comparison once you factor in $.

Prescott was throwing picks before Pollard went down. The guy responds to pressure situations with damaging mistakes. Can win the occasional big game with that but not a string of them. What is a guy worth who can't hold it together in the playoffs? Again, Purdy has one quality Dak lacks and will likely never find; he gives you a chance.

This is what happens when a QB holds a gun to the team's head for a contract. The same MAY happen in Baltimore if not careful. Teams maybe panic a bit as their options at QB are slim and agreeing to massive contracts can be a fail.

This is why I don't get too much into the "PURDY IS THE ONE! HE'S OUR NEXT FRANCHISE QB! ANOINT HIM!" chatter.
Dak Prescott's first couple years in Dallas were phenomenal because he had an elite offensive line + Ezekiel Elliot, before all the wear and tear. He looked fantastic and people were saying he's going to be an elite QB for a long time.
Then they awarded him with a big contract, and some of those things went away... He showed himself to be a good, fringe top 10 QB that could go on a tear... but has had a number of games like yesterday, when he just didn't have the poise to win a playoff game in a high-stakes environment.

Sky is Falling, Worst-case scenario: Purdy could be the same thing, where he looks amazing this year and next. He grows as a QB, and then we give him a big contract. But by that time... Trent Williams and Juice probably retire. Kittle is older, probably on his way out. CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk may or may not be here. We can't afford the loaded surrounding cast, and he turns out to be a good, but not great QB, on an overinflated contract.

Best-case scenario: Purdy's ceiling is a lot higher than people realized. All the comparisons to Brady, Brees, Montana are warranted... He's a QB that plays with a lot of poise, and as he extends his contract, we reload and get more playmakers for him, and the 49ers continue to win with him at the helm.

FORTUNATELY, we have him on a rookie contract for a few more years. We don't need to make the decision on whether to extend him for big money now. We have some time to figure out what kind of QB he is and we'll have this surrounding cast too, so we can make a good run with him at QB now.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^
Brock didn't turn the ball over vs the defense that forced the most turnovers this year. Can't wait to see what he was looking at. Pass rush was good but Brock usually gets rid of the ball sooner than what he was doing tonight. I'm guessing it was tight man and it didn't look anything like what SEA was doing. Didn't take bad sacks, didn't turn the ball over and managed to get the win while making key throws in the second half. Experience building game.

Right before 1/2 time, I was impressed that he got rid of the ball so we at least got a chance for the field goal.
Showed great awareness that a lot of veterans could have screwed up.

Should he probably have thrown it away sooner?

I didn't understand why Kyle didn't work the clock better here.

I think so. Purdy got lucky there, but I am sure Kyle made sure Purdy learned from this mistake.

The funny part about that play was how Kyle was trying to chew him out on the sideline after while he was rolling his eyes.

I'm sure purdy was like "ya dude your whining about me cutting it close on a play when you just stole 45 seconds of my 1:18 I had to work with. Every time you actually let me throw I got it done during that drive and you didn't even let me get a chance to go for a td"

You could see on purdy's face he was having none of that.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^
Brock didn't turn the ball over vs the defense that forced the most turnovers this year. Can't wait to see what he was looking at. Pass rush was good but Brock usually gets rid of the ball sooner than what he was doing tonight. I'm guessing it was tight man and it didn't look anything like what SEA was doing. Didn't take bad sacks, didn't turn the ball over and managed to get the win while making key throws in the second half. Experience building game.

Right before 1/2 time, I was impressed that he got rid of the ball so we at least got a chance for the field goal.
Showed great awareness that a lot of veterans could have screwed up.

Should he probably have thrown it away sooner?

I didn't understand why Kyle didn't work the clock better here.

I think so. Purdy got lucky there, but I am sure Kyle made sure Purdy learned from this mistake.

The end-of-half management was purposeful and intended. It wasn't a clock management issue, but certainly a very conservative decision to run the clock to ensure that the Cowboys don't have a possession/have minimal time, if we had to punt it to them. It felt very awkward. There was very little margin for error. But in the end, we got EXACTLY what we wanted---kicking a field goal at the end of the half, and the Cowboys didn't have an opportunity to possess the ball.

Purdy was very fortunate on that last throwaway. Given what they were trying to do, I'm surprised they ran a play with 7 seconds. I don't know what the routes looked like, but the smarter play would've been to make the one read, and if it wasn't there... throw it in the vicinity of a receiver out of bounds immediately. Instead, there was the awkward scramble and throwaway that left us with 1 second left on the clock. VERY fortunate.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by thl408:
^^
Brock didn't turn the ball over vs the defense that forced the most turnovers this year. Can't wait to see what he was looking at. Pass rush was good but Brock usually gets rid of the ball sooner than what he was doing tonight. I'm guessing it was tight man and it didn't look anything like what SEA was doing. Didn't take bad sacks, didn't turn the ball over and managed to get the win while making key throws in the second half. Experience building game.

Right before 1/2 time, I was impressed that he got rid of the ball so we at least got a chance for the field goal.
Showed great awareness that a lot of veterans could have screwed up.

Should he probably have thrown it away sooner?

I didn't understand why Kyle didn't work the clock better here.

I think so. Purdy got lucky there, but I am sure Kyle made sure Purdy learned from this mistake.

The funny part about that play was how Kyle was trying to chew him out on the sideline after while he was rolling his eyes.

I'm sure purdy was like "ya dude your whining about me cutting it close on a play when you just stole 45 seconds of my 1:18 I had to work with. Every time you actually let me throw I got it done during that drive and you didn't even let me get a chance to go for a td"

You could see on purdy's face he was having none of that.

I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.
Passer rating in 8 games since his first snap against the Dolphins: 111.44 (down from 115.09 in 7 games after the Seattle game). 220 pass attempts, 16 TD's, 3 INT's, 2 rushing TD's, zero fumbles.

This was his worst game in terms of passer rating, but in terms of eye test it certainly wasn't a bad game, especially given the circumstances.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

So i guess we should all expect 6+ TDs from Purdy Sunday.

Yup lol
lol this guy.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
lol this guy.


Who?
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Passer rating in 8 games since his first snap against the Dolphins: 111.44 (down from 115.09 in 7 games after the Seattle game). 220 pass attempts, 16 TD's, 3 INT's, 2 rushing TD's, zero fumbles.

This was his worst game in terms of passer rating, but in terms of eye test it certainly wasn't a bad game, especially given the circumstances.

It's normal for QBs numbers to be lower across the board in postseason. Brady is considered one of the all time great postseason performers and his career rating drops 8-10 pts in postseason. Just don't post this in the JG thread you will get a debate lol
Originally posted by Wubbie:
This is why I don't get too much into the "PURDY IS THE ONE! HE'S OUR NEXT FRANCHISE QB! ANOINT HIM!" chatter.
Dak Prescott's first couple years in Dallas were phenomenal because he had an elite offensive line + Ezekiel Elliot, before all the wear and tear. He looked fantastic and people were saying he's going to be an elite QB for a long time.
Then they awarded him with a big contract, and some of those things went away... He showed himself to be a good, fringe top 10 QB that could go on a tear... but has had a number of games like yesterday, when he just didn't have the poise to win a playoff game in a high-stakes environment.

Sky is Falling, Worst-case scenario: Purdy could be the same thing, where he looks amazing this year and next. He grows as a QB, and then we give him a big contract. But by that time... Trent Williams and Juice probably retire. Kittle is older, probably on his way out. CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk may or may not be here. We can't afford the loaded surrounding cast, and he turns out to be a good, but not great QB, on an overinflated contract.

Best-case scenario: Purdy's ceiling is a lot higher than people realized. All the comparisons to Brady, Brees, Montana are warranted... He's a QB that plays with a lot of poise, and as he extends his contract, we reload and get more playmakers for him, and the 49ers continue to win with him at the helm.

FORTUNATELY, we have him on a rookie contract for a few more years. We don't need to make the decision on whether to extend him for big money now. We have some time to figure out what kind of QB he is and we'll have this surrounding cast too, so we can make a good run with him at QB now.

This is exactly, 100%, it. It's also why I think it would be smart to keep Trey in the building and see how he develops too.
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
lol this guy.


Are we just posting random comments now?
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
lol this guy.


Gosh, I hate this lack of nuance.
Yes, Purdy benefits from the surrounding cast and Shanahan.
But the offense looks slightly better than when it was under Jimmy Garoppolo (who was playing very well before he got injured). I'm sure, say, Nick Mullens, would be putting up great production in this system as well, but he may not have had the same poise that Purdy has shown and maybe would've committed a number of turnovers against the Cowboys' opportunistic defense.

Give Purdy his credit too.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Passer rating in 8 games since his first snap against the Dolphins: 111.44 (down from 115.09 in 7 games after the Seattle game). 220 pass attempts, 16 TD's, 3 INT's, 2 rushing TD's, zero fumbles.

This was his worst game in terms of passer rating, but in terms of eye test it certainly wasn't a bad game, especially given the circumstances.

I really have no problem here. I love the guy! I really do but he had zero TDs. Keeping it real. That can't happen this Sunday or we will get the runner up prize for outstanding season against the odds. I don't want a booby prize. We need a Lombardi. It almost sort of feels IF we can get by Philly our odds are damn good this time it happens. But really, it's not time to be conservative, it's time to be a juggernaut.
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