QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Honestly he's the only young player that's gotten consistently better the longer he plays.

Every other recent draft pick has been pretty much lackluster...

I hate the whole "well things might be better with warner and bosa etc.. next year"

The problem is there is nothing on deck from recent drafts that looks really promising.

I mean outside cj west have any recent draft picks flashed at all?

Depends on what you considered to be flashed. Stout, Winters, Puni, R Green, M Williams, Bethune, Colby

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:

Originally posted by jcs:
Sometimes the QB needs to create separation.

LMAO!!

Ball placement, looking Defenders off, timing, preparation, movement...these are thing all the great ones do to help their recievers get open and create seperation. Taking 10-20 yard drop backs absolutely kills timing unless you have the athletic ability and arm strength to overcome the disruption in play design like Mahomes does.

Brock will never be in that class of QB. He's not Mahomes or Allen. But he is tops in that second tier of QBs. Give him a system and he will execute. Some ppl compare him to Favre bc he's a gunslinger. But Favre was closer to Mahomes and Stafford with his throws. Brock is closer to Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon type of quarterback with better agility.

The whole "system" thing is so old. Good QB's read defenses quickly, go through progressions, feel the pocket around them without taking their eyes off downfield, lead men, and make plays off script when things break down. Brock does all those things. There is nothing "system" about him. A system QB is a mediocre guy who can hold down the fort and just not be the reason the team lost. Brock elevates the offense.

Drew Brees is a fantastic comp for Brock. Same size, processing power off the charts. Doesn't need to throw it 70 yards off his back foot. Im not saying Brock will have a career equal to Brees, but hes cut from the same cloth. He's not Brad Johnson. 🙄

We have never seen Mahomes outside of Andy Reid's system. Furthermore nearly all his greatest Playoff moments were with his legs

Past 3 regular seasons
Mahomes (46 games): 75 TDs and 36 INTs, 11,700 yds

Purdy (40 games): 71 TDs and 31 INTs, 10,300 yds

Will Brock ever be what Patrick was 4+ years ago? Probably not. But moving forward they are very similiar and arguably you prefer to have Brock given the age

The only QB's with a SB ring who will still be in the league 5 years from now are Mahomes and Hurts. I can't think of a time with less star power at QB. Literally everyone else has accomplished nothing that Purdy hasn't, and we already know Purdy is better than Hurts. The door is wide open for Brock to become a permanent top 5 guy.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:

Originally posted by jcs:
Sometimes the QB needs to create separation.

LMAO!!

Ball placement, looking Defenders off, timing, preparation, movement...these are thing all the great ones do to help their recievers get open and create seperation. Taking 10-20 yard drop backs absolutely kills timing unless you have the athletic ability and arm strength to overcome the disruption in play design like Mahomes does.

Brock will never be in that class of QB. He's not Mahomes or Allen. But he is tops in that second tier of QBs. Give him a system and he will execute. Some ppl compare him to Favre bc he's a gunslinger. But Favre was closer to Mahomes and Stafford with his throws. Brock is closer to Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon type of quarterback with better agility.

The whole "system" thing is so old. Good QB's read defenses quickly, go through progressions, feel the pocket around them without taking their eyes off downfield, lead men, and make plays off script when things break down. Brock does all those things. There is nothing "system" about him. A system QB is a mediocre guy who can hold down the fort and just not be the reason the team lost. Brock elevates the offense.

Drew Brees is a fantastic comp for Brock. Same size, processing power off the charts. Doesn't need to throw it 70 yards off his back foot. Im not saying Brock will have a career equal to Brees, but hes cut from the same cloth. He's not Brad Johnson. 🙄

Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

LLOL that comment aged well.

Did I just see a whole bunch of Superstar quarterbacks look a lot worse than Brock Purdy against defenses that aren't as good as Seattle's? This is now an official Trend in the NFL lock down defenses forcing mistakes from high paid young inexperienced quarterbacks. With better lines than ours. I think we can work with our guy. Let's put some money into the qb coaching staff and build ourselves a year in 2026

Maye clowned. Stroud clowned. Allen clowned. Love clowned. Williams clowned.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

Quick…when was the last time this was a thing?

Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?

Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
We have never seen Mahomes outside of Andy Reid's system. Furthermore nearly all his greatest Playoff moments were with his legs

Past 3 regular seasons
Mahomes (46 games): 75 TDs and 36 INTs, 11,700 yds

Purdy (40 games): 71 TDs and 31 INTs, 10,300 yds

Will Brock ever be what Patrick was 4+ years ago? Probably not. But moving forward they are very similiar and arguably you prefer to have Brock given the age

The stats don't tell you when those TD passes happened. Mahomes has the knack of making really big plays at a critical time. Caleb Williams stats aren't nearly as good as Brock's but he makes huge plays at critical moments in the game.

Brock is a solid QB that plays at a high level most of the time but he's not the type of player that turns into Superman in the 4th quarter. I know he's had spme comebacks but no tthe huge ones that we've seen from Mahomes, Williams and Allen. The other side of that coin is if those guys played better in the first 3 quarters they wouldn't need the big comebacks.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

Quick…when was the last time this was a thing?

Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?

Point being that great QBs make plays outside of what is called or intended. Do you know why ppl had the look with Caleb last night, even with those bone headed mistakes ? Because he can improvise and throw a 50 yard dart in the corner of the endzone just based off anticipation. It's why Mahomes can drive his team for a game tying FG in the playoffs with 15 seconds left. It's why Aaron Rodgers made you sweat on a Hail Mary throw with zero time on the clock. Luck involved ? Sure. But there's just some guys that can take matters into their own hands and will the team to victory. That's what I mean by blue tent.

Brock can play outside the system but not consistently. He's a great QB in the 2nd tier of QBs but you're kidding yourselves if you think he's just like Josh Allen or Matt Stafford. And no, I don't look at isolated games to make my opinion so let's save the what happened to Josh Allen and Matt Stafford last night…

All this BS was discussed 40 years ago with elway.

If you have a strong arm, the interceptions, the bad decisions, don't matter. Lol.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:

Originally posted by jcs:
Sometimes the QB needs to create separation.

LMAO!!

Ball placement, looking Defenders off, timing, preparation, movement...these are thing all the great ones do to help their recievers get open and create seperation. Taking 10-20 yard drop backs absolutely kills timing unless you have the athletic ability and arm strength to overcome the disruption in play design like Mahomes does.

Brock will never be in that class of QB. He's not Mahomes or Allen. But he is tops in that second tier of QBs. Give him a system and he will execute. Some ppl compare him to Favre bc he's a gunslinger. But Favre was closer to Mahomes and Stafford with his throws. Brock is closer to Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon type of quarterback with better agility.

The whole "system" thing is so old. Good QB's read defenses quickly, go through progressions, feel the pocket around them without taking their eyes off downfield, lead men, and make plays off script when things break down. Brock does all those things. There is nothing "system" about him. A system QB is a mediocre guy who can hold down the fort and just not be the reason the team lost. Brock elevates the offense.

Drew Brees is a fantastic comp for Brock. Same size, processing power off the charts. Doesn't need to throw it 70 yards off his back foot. Im not saying Brock will have a career equal to Brees, but hes cut from the same cloth. He's not Brad Johnson. 🙄

Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

Based on what? None of them have ever had that situation. They all have helmet radios. Josh Allen is 8-7 in the playoffs. He continually disappoints in big moments. Purdy had that huge comeback against the Lions to go to the SB, and then gave his team the lead in both the 4th quarter and OT in the SB, and his D couldn't hold. Thats more than Allen, Burrow, and Lamar have ever done.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Based on what? None of them have ever had that situation. They all have helmet radios. Josh Allen is 8-7 in the playoffs. He continually disappoints in big moments. Purdy had that huge comeback against the Lions to go to the SB, and then gave his team the lead in both the 4th quarter and OT in the SB, and his D couldn't hold. Thats more than Allen, Burrow, and Lamar have ever done.

Yeah brocks very clutch. He rises to the occasion and isn't afraid to sling it. He is basically the opposite of what Jimmy g became.

Every other QB since young if the game was on the line you were just waiting for the stalled out final drive or hoping for some kind of dink and dunk miracle.

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by FL9r:
Nice comeback this year, ugly start but a very strong finish. He is the least of our problems. Serviceable qb who will get smarter and better with time. You feel for a qb that's stand in and has absolutely nothing to throw to and when he does the o line breaks down. This is not a good team. Old, injured and out matched at nearly every position in the trenches. Skill guys are non existent outside of an aging TE and an overused RB. You can put Josh Allan on this squad and have nearly the same results. Only so much a qb can do to overcome soooooo many holes. Speaking of Elite QB Josh.. he missed some critical throws yesterday… it happens to the best of them. Parting shot. #1 defense and a smart offense with healthy weapons beats the practice squad 100 out 100 times….

Yeah I haven't seen or paid attention to all of the responses after last night but anyone doubting or blaming Purdy is ridiculous. Not saying he's a perfect player or QB. Actually no one is. But he did everything he could to try to single handedly keep the offense in the game last night. What you saw last night was probably not altogether different from Bill Walsh watching Jeff Garcia at San Jose State. Only relative to level of competition Garcia might have had slightly more to work with. And San Jose State was terrible.

You had a quarterback with no running game and no pass protection. Who, even when he did have pass protection still had to stand or run around forever because no one was getting open.

I hate to say it and don't hate to say it. NFL fans in general have just gotten incredibly dumbed down when it comes to quarterback play. And I'm not an expert by any means. But they think only elite QB's can win a Super Bowl or a team wins one only or primarily because of their QB. Obviously he plays a key and critical role. But if next to nothing around him is going right, he's not going to win anything. You saw that first hand with Mahomes against Tampa Bay and the second time against Philadelphia.

Yeah not sure why folks are upset with Purdy. That's what I'm assuming here. I'm envious of what Schneider and MacDonald has built in Seattle. And they f**kin have more cap space than us next year ($67M to $40M). We're probably not going to compete with that machine for the next couple seasons as we are now old and have so many holes. But it starts with the trenches. We need to be able to run the ball and we need to exert pressure so let's shore up the oline and ensure we can bring constant pressure. Having Bosa and Mykel next season should help tremendously, and with our run defense which sucks ballz.

And they did it with Darnold in his 1st year, not having to pay him huge money. Reminds me of what the Ravens did when they won it with, was it Dilfer? They built a good team and just had a serviceble QB.

Seattle has to start paying people. The bill for those great drafts of 2022 and 2023.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:

Originally posted by jcs:
Sometimes the QB needs to create separation.

LMAO!!

Ball placement, looking Defenders off, timing, preparation, movement...these are thing all the great ones do to help their recievers get open and create seperation. Taking 10-20 yard drop backs absolutely kills timing unless you have the athletic ability and arm strength to overcome the disruption in play design like Mahomes does.

Brock will never be in that class of QB. He's not Mahomes or Allen. But he is tops in that second tier of QBs. Give him a system and he will execute. Some ppl compare him to Favre bc he's a gunslinger. But Favre was closer to Mahomes and Stafford with his throws. Brock is closer to Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon type of quarterback with better agility.

The whole "system" thing is so old. Good QB's read defenses quickly, go through progressions, feel the pocket around them without taking their eyes off downfield, lead men, and make plays off script when things break down. Brock does all those things. There is nothing "system" about him. A system QB is a mediocre guy who can hold down the fort and just not be the reason the team lost. Brock elevates the offense.

Drew Brees is a fantastic comp for Brock. Same size, processing power off the charts. Doesn't need to throw it 70 yards off his back foot. Im not saying Brock will have a career equal to Brees, but hes cut from the same cloth. He's not Brad Johnson. 🙄

Fair enough. I just don't put Brock in that "game on the line, 2 minutes left, no TOs, 90 yard drive for the win, head coach in the blue tent with a concussion so it's all you" type QB where he's gonna pull it out. I can see Allen and Mahomes do it. Maybe Burrow and Jackson with his legs. Stafford could do it. Brock probably doesn't.

Based on what? None of them have ever had that situation. They all have helmet radios. Josh Allen is 8-7 in the playoffs. He continually disappoints in big moments. Purdy had that huge comeback against the Lions to go to the SB, and then gave his team the lead in both the 4th quarter and OT in the SB, and his D couldn't hold. Thats more than Allen, Burrow, and Lamar have ever done.

I'm not arguing your point. I just don't hold Purdy in the same breath as Josh Allen. I still think he's a great QB but not that elite level…

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
We have never seen Mahomes outside of Andy Reid's system. Furthermore nearly all his greatest Playoff moments were with his legs

Past 3 regular seasons
Mahomes (46 games): 75 TDs and 36 INTs, 11,700 yds

Purdy (40 games): 71 TDs and 31 INTs, 10,300 yds

Will Brock ever be what Patrick was 4+ years ago? Probably not. But moving forward they are very similiar and arguably you prefer to have Brock given the age

The stats don't tell you when those TD passes happened. Mahomes has the knack of making really big plays at a critical time. Caleb Williams stats aren't nearly as good as Brock's but he makes huge plays at critical moments in the game.

Brock is a solid QB that plays at a high level most of the time but he's not the type of player that turns into Superman in the 4th quarter. I know he's had spme comebacks but no tthe huge ones that we've seen from Mahomes, Williams and Allen. The other side of that coin is if those guys played better in the first 3 quarters they wouldn't need the big comebacks.

I'm glad you typed the last sentence especially when it comes to Caleb Williams. People have gone crazy over him because of those comebacks and it ignores the fact that they needed those comebacks in part because he played pretty poorly for 3 quarters. In fact, take away his fourth quarters, which obviously you can't, and he played pretty bad in the playoffs.

I'll admit as an Ohio State fan I wanted Fields to succeed. Heck, I wanted us to draft him. I figured Caleb would be a bust due to his attitude and lack of maturity. It seems like he'll probably be fine but people (not necessarily you) go crazy over I think the second least accurate passer in the league. It's like a more talented Tebow Time 2.0. The original version definitely wasn't sustainable.

I believe there was a stat not so long ago that showed Brock had the most or highest percentage of double digit victories or something at this point in his career. 4th quarter comebacks are exciting but I would actually rather have a quarterback who consistently plays so well you generally don't need them. And when it doesn't or if it doesn't happen I am not sure it falls on Brock anyway as Kyle's 4th quarter record in comeback situations is abysmal through all quarterbacks. To be fair most coaches if not all probably have losing records in that situation because you've been outplayed all game. But his is really bad.