QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Lmao he's not going to talk s**t about Kyle in an interview with the one of the teams mouthpieces. He's tried to backtrack his comments from after the SB ever said he said it but it's too late now. We know what he thinks

Bah now we're making up s**t to push a narrative, heres a comment where he's literally saying he loves Kyle and you're like nah that can't be true because I don't want it to be….its so painfully obvious you can't be objective on this topic.

you're no different then the Jimmy lovers club for years in here…blaming everything and everyone else besides his own damn play.

If Purdy doesn't hurt his elbow his rookie year we were winning that SuperBowl with Mr Irrelevant and QB 3 because Demeco had the number one defense balling that year. No other coach including McVay does what we've done with Jimmy G Mac Jones and Brock Purdy

There's something to be said for a guy with what we've had and another with the first QBs taken in their respective drafts between Matt Stafford and Jared Goff

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bah now we're making up s**t to push a narrative, heres a comment where he's literally saying he loves Kyle and you're like nah that can't be true because I don't want it to be….its so painfully obvious you can't be objective on this topic.

you're no different then the Jimmy lovers club for years in here…blaming everything and everyone else besides his own damn play.

His comments to Maiocco were along the lines of what I remember him saying previously. Essentially that he wasn't initially comfortable. It's probably the primary reason there was the idea that it takes a QB a full year in the system before they excel, even though there are multiple examples of QBs having immediate success.

I won't pretend that I have encylopedic knowledge of everything any player has ever said about a coach though. I do know Charlie's paraphrased version of these supposed comments tend to not line up with how players and coaches talk about each other publicly, especially when the subject is successful over long periods of time.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Bah now we're making up s**t to push a narrative, heres a comment where he's literally saying he loves Kyle and you're like nah that can't be true because I don't want it to be….its so painfully obvious you can't be objective on this topic.

you're no different then the Jimmy lovers club for years in here…blaming everything and everyone else besides his own damn play.

His comments to Maiocco were along the lines of what I remember him saying previously. Essentially that he wasn't initially comfortable. It's probably the primary reason there was the idea that it takes a QB a full year in the system before they excel, even though there are multiple examples of QBs having immediate success.

I won't pretend that I have encylopedic knowledge of everything any player has ever said about a coach though. I do know Charlie's paraphrased version of these supposed comments tend to not line up with how players and coaches talk about each other publicly, especially when the subject is successful over long periods of time.

Let's just ignore the fact that he threw the guy under the bus after the sb lol (not that Kyle didn't deserve it, but still). You just don't do that if you have any respect for your coach, doesn't matter what he tries to say to clean it up

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Lmao he's not going to talk s**t about Kyle in an interview with the one of the teams mouthpieces. He's tried to backtrack his comments from after the SB ever said he said it but it's too late now. We know what he thinks

Bah now we're making up s**t to push a narrative, heres a comment where he's literally saying he loves Kyle and you're like nah that can't be true because I don't want it to be….its so painfully obvious you can't be objective on this topic.

you're no different then the Jimmy lovers club for years in here…blaming everything and everyone else besides his own damn play.

Na I'm down to bench him if that's what Kyle wants. I just see Kyle doing the same thing with the next guy. I don't think all these guys running this Kyle offense having the same exact trajectory is a coincidence

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Let's just ignore the fact that he threw the guy under the bus after the sb lol (not that Kyle didn't deserve it, but still). You just don't do that if you have any respect for your coach, doesn't matter what he tries to say to clean it up

I don't remember exactly what he said. He could have criticized his play selection and that would be different than how effective his system is and whether it's good for QB's to play in it. I've been critical of Kyle's in game decision making as well.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
His comments to Maiocco were along the lines of what I remember him saying previously. Essentially that he wasn't initially comfortable. It's probably the primary reason there was the idea that it takes a QB a full year in the system before they excel, even though there are multiple examples of QBs having immediate success.

I won't pretend that I have encylopedic knowledge of everything any player has ever said about a coach though. I do know Charlie's paraphrased version of these supposed comments tend to not line up with how players and coaches talk about each other publicly, especially when the subject is successful over long periods of time.

That's what I remember as well, but you know that doesn't fit the narrative.

I don't think Brock is a bad QB, we've seen him run this offense at a high level. Those traits that make him good (processing and anticipation) just haven't been as consistent. I think it's a mental thing vs him being injured or lack of talent.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Let's just ignore the fact that he threw the guy under the bus after the sb lol (not that Kyle didn't deserve it, but still). You just don't do that if you have any respect for your coach, doesn't matter what he tries to say to clean it up

I don't remember exactly what he said. He could have criticized his play selection and that would be different than how effective his system is and whether it's good for QB's to play in it. I've been critical of Kyle's in game decision making as well.

He complained about the operations and how it didn't give him enough time to get out of Kyle's plays. To say anything like that shows zero respect. Makes him look bad too and he clearly recognized that

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Lmao he's not going to talk s**t about Kyle in an interview with the one of the teams mouthpieces. He's tried to backtrack his comments from after the SB ever said he said it but it's too late now. We know what he thinks

Bah now we're making up s**t to push a narrative, heres a comment where he's literally saying he loves Kyle and you're like nah that can't be true because I don't want it to be….its so painfully obvious you can't be objective on this topic.

you're no different then the Jimmy lovers club for years in here…blaming everything and everyone else besides his own damn play.

Yup. No one has overrated Jimmy or Brock more than some 49er fans have. I suppose it happens within every fanbase, especially with likable players (which Jimmy and Brock are).

From an outsider's perspective, whose opinion is more likely to be driven by subjectivity and bias: (1) fans that rate their team's player significantly higher relative to general and mainstream consensus, or (2) fans of the same team whose perception of said player closer aligns with such consensus?

One side is arguably and inherently more driven by bias.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Na I'm down to bench him if that's what Kyle wants. I just see Kyle doing the same thing with the next guy. I don't think all these guys running this Kyle offense having the same exact trajectory is a coincidence

The similarly with "all these guys" are they all lack in the high end tangible traits. We're talking about Jimmy, Brock, Nick mullens etc etc. there's only so high you can go with limited talent…you can't objectively tell me Brock is processing and throwing with anticipation consistently like he was in 2023. That's not a scheme thing, that's a player issue. No different than when he was in college.

I want more of what he did on the first drive. Stop putting the ball in harms way. I know Brock can play better than he has. The plays are still there, he's gotta execute at a higher level.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He complained about the operations and how it didn't give him enough time to get out of Kyle's plays. To say anything like that shows zero respect. Makes him look bad too and he clearly recognized that

I see that. He said it in an interview with Pete Prisco.

I disagree with your conclusions based on those comments (no respect etc) and most importantly that it's all that meaningful for your overarching argument in the first place. It's a piece of evidence that suggests Matt Ryan had an issue with an aspect of the system's structure, which is fair. Your argument that QBs are destined to bottom out in this system is contradicted by multiple examples across multiple teams, and is primarily based on Jimmy G's career trajectory… a player who also had arguably his best stretch of play, especially in terms of production, in his 6th and final year here.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He complained about the operations and how it didn't give him enough time to get out of Kyle's plays. To say anything like that shows zero respect. Makes him look bad too and he clearly recognized that

He complain about the length of the play calls and how he put him in uncomfortable positions early in their career together, once he got it he was the MVP of the league and going to the SB. It was a bad take to say Ryan didn't like Kyle. He literally said the opposite.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Brock Stans the same dudes that blindly defended Jimmy G. Same episode different season. Common knowledge that Jimmy is a bad QB, but we all remember the Niner fans who relentlessly claimed be was a top 5 QB in the league.

Fans will overrate the hell out of their team's starting QB. It is what it is, I guess.

This is unequivocally false.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

He complained about the operations and how it didn't give him enough time to get out of Kyle's plays. To say anything like that shows zero respect. Makes him look bad too and he clearly recognized that

I see that. He said it in an interview with Pete Prisco.

I disagree with your conclusions based on those comments (no respect etc) and most importantly that it's all that meaningful for your overarching argument in the first place. It's a piece of evidence that suggests Matt Ryan had an issue with an aspect of the system's structure, which is fair. Your argument that QBs are destined to bottom out in this system is contradicted by multiple examples across multiple teams, and is primarily based on Jimmy G's career trajectory… a player who also had arguably his best stretch of play, especially in terms of production, in his 6th and final year here.

I know I damn sure wouldn't say that about a coach I respect, so ya we can disagree on that. It is still a negative point against Kyle. Another qb that just doesn't like the system. It's not good imo

I'm not saying all these QBs are done for their careers, but I think this offense can actually do some damage when a qb goes through struggles, which all Qbs do. Kyle needs to be the one that reigns a qb in at these times but we've got Brock chucking it all over like never before and Kyle's just like "yea that's a good decision just play better" lol. Like bro he needs to gain some confidence back before we have him playing like he's Brett Favre

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I know I damn sure wouldn't say that about a coach I respect, so ya we can disagree on that. It is still a negative point against Kyle. Another qb that just doesn't like the system. It's not good imo

I'm not saying all these QBs are done for their careers, but I think this offense can actually do some damage when a qb goes through struggles, which all Qbs do. Kyle needs to be the one that reigns a qb in at these times but we've got Brock chucking it all over like never before and Kyle's just like "yea that's a good decision just play better" lol. Like bro he needs to gain some confidence back before we have him playing like he's Brett Favre

He doesn't like an aspect of the system. You're reaching for a broader conclusion that isn't necessarily true. I'm not arguing that anybody believes his system, or any other, is flawless.

In the last game, only one of those interceptions (the 2nd) was arguably a bad decision. Outside of that 2nd pick I don't think the others were examples of being overly aggressive or trying to do too much… which I think Brock has shown a tendency towards going back to last season and in college. We don't want that, or execution failures like we saw on MNF.