QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by father49er:
I hope Brock turns it around and button things up. His INT rate has steadily increased last season and into this season.

His interception rate nearly doubled after Aiyuk got injured. We need Aiyuk back.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
QB play around the league seems to be down compared to years past. Brock seems to be running into defensive schemers that are outfoxing him. He needs to adjust because the league has adjusted to him.

We don't have a WR that scares or challenges defenses. Look at how open Puka and Davante get for the Rams, all Stafford has to do is throw to the wide open guy. Purdy needs a pinpoint accurate pass or it'll be broken up or intercepted. Pearsall hasn't been the same since the knee injury unfortunately.

I do not understand people who are bigger fans of a QB over the team.

it was like this with Alex smith. I want the best qb for the team and Purdy ain't it! However I know shanny and the front office aren't gonna sit him cause of how much he's getting paid AND it would be very embarrassing to them to do so. So…..he'll be here for another season. The 49ers can get out from under his contract at the end of next season so we are stuck, it is what it is.

I don't want to hear excuses like his toe is still bothering him. If it is then he's lying which is worse than just having a bad game. He could be putting his career at risk. I imagine at least half the QBs in the league are at less than 100% right now. It's part of being an NFL player to play when not 100% so hus toe must be good enough. He said it's not bothering him so let's not keep insisting it is.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by gored49:

I was angry about his performance and thinking he needed to be pulled but I will point out that Kurt Warner is actively defending his play last night. I trust Warner knows a bit more about qb play than most fans on here. Hopefully, he is right.

You don't need to be a HOF QB to have an objective view of how he played last night. He was very inaccurate. He was late on some plays, he had opportunities to make safe positive plays that would have given them 1st downs….2 of his 3 INTs were on early downs.

In warner's opinion he played well minus those 3 plays and he mostly excuses one of them. He also argued that it is magnified because of those interceptions and purdy is probably easier to intercept because he isn't launching rockets. Just passing along a HOF qbs opinion in case it impacts views of the game or position.

I'd still prefer Purdy making the smart play but maybe he is like 95% of the time.

I think Warner probably sees a lot of himself in Purdy.

This is the point I was making when I reminded us of the narrative of Warners career at that time. He defends Brock because he was never given any leeway either

Originally posted by gored49:
In warner's opinion he played well minus those 3 plays and he mostly excuses one of them. He also argued that it is magnified because of those interceptions and purdy is probably easier to intercept because he isn't launching rockets. Just passing along a HOF qbs opinion in case it impacts views of the game or position.

I'd still prefer Purdy making the smart play but maybe he is like 95% of the time.

Had a massive overthrow to Kittle on one play and miscommunication with JJ (that almost lead to another INT) on another play.

Look this is the NFL, one play can change the outcome of a game. Trying to toss out "only 3 plays" is BS coming from Warner.

I don't think the plays themselves were bad, but the execution of the pass was horrible. Late, inaccurate and floating passes out there shouldn't be downplayed because he made the right read. Warner is coming off as bias based on their careers.

Brock is a gunslinger, he's not making the smart play 95% of the time…he's trying to make the big play. I'll take a QB willing to make plays, but understand the situation. Understand the down and distance and your other options on any given down. Dude throws a ton of INTs on early downs when there's other options available.

His accuracy was all over the place against the Panthers and could have actually been much worse than it was.

I don't think he's the QB we all thought he was and that's ashame since we gave him all that money to begin with.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We don't have a WR that scares or challenges defenses. Look at how open Puka and Davante get for the Rams, all Stafford has to do is throw to the wide open guy. Purdy needs a pinpoint accurate pass or it'll be broken up or intercepted. Pearsall hasn't been the same since the knee injury unfortunately.

Brock's tight window throws are bottom of the league. Stafford makes amazing throws weekly, he's a much better QB.

if Brock needs half a dozen amazing playmakers to play well, then he's not a very good QB and not worth that contract.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We don't have a WR that scares or challenges defenses. Look at how open Puka and Davante get for the Rams, all Stafford has to do is throw to the wide open guy. Purdy needs a pinpoint accurate pass or it'll be broken up or intercepted. Pearsall hasn't been the same since the knee injury unfortunately.

Brock's tight window throws are bottom of the league. Stafford makes amazing throws weekly, he's a much better QB.

if Brock needs half a dozen amazing playmakers to play well, then he's not a very good QB and not worth that contract.

Do you think Stafford would be playing as well without Puka and Davante? I think Stafford is great, but his previous 3 years in LA before this season were all meh and he never did anything with the Lions even with Calvin Johnson.

QBs don't need elite supporting casts, but they need somebody. Our offense does not have any starting caliber WRs right now. We have no speed on offense. Nobody scares defenses.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
There is zero argument about how Purdy played in the first half. He was awful, and there is no excusing it.

Then the second half, Kyle started calling much shorter routes and quick throws, and what do you know? Purdy played well in the 2nd half. All he needed was the Mac Jones playbook, and he completely turned his game around.

What I would like to see is the opposite. The short quick throws early to establish rhythm, and then hit them with the longer stuff as the game opens up. That is the WCO in a nutshell. Do that more please.

He never needed anything like that before. From the first game he was thrown into he has been slinging it and that's one of the things I've loved about his game. But he has been terribly off lately, from bad reads to bad passes, something has definitely gone wrong.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock's tight window throws are bottom of the league. Stafford makes amazing throws weekly, he's a much better QB.

if Brock needs half a dozen amazing playmakers to play well, then he's not a very good QB and not worth that contract.

I watched Stafford vs bucs and vs us.... Where were the amazing throws? He doesn't get pressured and guys are more or less wide open.

I'm not saying he isn't at the top of the QB list this year, he is. But again his WRs lead the league in separation yards (I made this stat up but prove me wrong!!)

He is of course better than Brock. He is also playing better than every other QB this year so I'm not sure why that's really being discussed

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Do you think Stafford would be playing as well without Puka and Davante? I think Stafford is great, but his previous 3 years in LA before this season were all meh and he never did anything with the Lions even with Calvin Johnson.

QBs don't need elite supporting casts, but they need somebody. Our offense does not have any starting caliber WRs right now. We have no speed on offense. Nobody scares defenses.

I think Stafford himself has been a great QB his whole career. Do you think Puka would be amazing if he played on the Jets right now? Adams wasn't exactly Adams with Jimmy G tossing him hospital balls.

Stafford is rolling out there with massive back issues for years and still winning games. Who do they have that has "speed"? Puka isn't a downfield threat and Adams isn't fast at all.

this whole narrative that Brock is surrounded with s**t on offense is such a b******t excuse. Freaking Mac Jones was winning games top 10 in YPG and top 3 in comp %

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

There is zero argument about how Purdy played in the first half. He was awful, and there is no excusing it.

Then the second half, Kyle started calling much shorter routes and quick throws, and what do you know? Purdy played well in the 2nd half. All he needed was the Mac Jones playbook, and he completely turned his game around.

What I would like to see is the opposite. The short quick throws early to establish rhythm, and then hit them with the longer stuff as the game opens up. That is the WCO in a nutshell. Do that more please.

He never needed anything like that before. From the first game he was thrown into he has been slinging it and that's one of the things I've loved about his game. But he has been terribly off lately, from bad reads to bad passes, something has definitely gone wrong.

The problem right now is defenses are all over it and he continues to try to force it

Brock Purdy has had too many clunkers. Yes, QBs will have bad games but he just can't consistently carry the team for that contract.

We know he is not in the Mahomes, Allen, etc conversation but he might not even be in the Dak conversation.

Not good because if he were the team would be that much better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Do you think Stafford would be playing as well without Puka and Davante? I think Stafford is great, but his previous 3 years in LA before this season were all meh and he never did anything with the Lions even with Calvin Johnson.

QBs don't need elite supporting casts, but they need somebody. Our offense does not have any starting caliber WRs right now. We have no speed on offense. Nobody scares defenses.

I think Stafford himself has been a great QB his whole career. Do you think Puka would be amazing if he played on the Jets right now? Adams wasn't exactly Adams with Jimmy G tossing him hospital balls.

Stafford is rolling out there with massive back issues for years and still winning games. Who do they have that has "speed"? Puka isn't a downfield threat and Adams isn't fast at all.

this whole narrative that Brock is surrounded with s**t on offense is such a b******t excuse. Freaking Mac Jones was winning games top 10 in YPG and top 3 in comp %

Agreed.

Kittle, Pearsall, JJ and CMC Is more than enough talent for Brock to work with Imo