QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
If Mac Jones wins us a SB. Sign me up! I don't care who the QB is honestly. I just want to experience that feeling again.

However a reminder that Mac is signed to a 2 year deal. If he wins the SB for us this year whether this offseason or the following one he will require a new contract as well. Maybe he won't command the same deal as Brock but a SB win goes a long way in the negotiations.

So what do we do there? Just let him play out his deal and bring in another reclamation project?

There you go! I give TD the lion's share of the credit for helping your perspective evolve.

It was painful to admit we were wrong about Jimmy, but we evolved.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Defensive coordinators may have picked out that Brock's early success was based on throwing over the middle. His timing and accuracy were impressive. But if the DCs have plugged up the middle, that may have forced Brock to throw outside, challenging his arm strength. He has also thrown "lucky" passes. The final TD vs. Seattle in week 1 is an example. I agree with those who say last season is not a fair basis to judge Brock. Still, Brock has many intangibles including quick processing and quick feet. Let him recover fully with no risk of aggravating the injury. Regardless, the 49ers will have a valuable trade possibility in the off-season, if not before.

Why are we making things up now?

As for the lucky passes thing...which QB doesn't have lucky passes from time to time? Brock threw the ball up and let his guy make a play knowing he didn't want to see Jake Moody on the field.

In the end nobody cares about lucky throws if they're game winning TDs.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If Jones ended up leading the team to a SB victory and the Niners decided to go with him they can release Purdy after the 2026 season without a major cap hit. It's unlikely that this will happen so it's all just talk.

People that are using the toe as an excuse for Brock's recent performance need to go back and look at his last 5 games. Including the last 3 from 2024 he's thrown 9 TD passes and has 8 INTs. His stats for last season and the 2 games this year are 24 TDs and 16 INTs in 17 games. Not a very good TD to INT ratio. If he's going to go forward and continue as the starter he'll need to cut way down on those INTs and increase the TD number.

Once again his issues from the Jags game have absolutely nothing to do with other games. There is a clear difference in his accuracy even from the first game this season which I would say is a much better indicator of Brock now vs last year.

I'm not sure why some people are so eager to overlook that clear difference which is easily explained by the injury.

I went back to look at the interceptions last year and there were not many terrible decisions out there. I recommend others go back and see for themselves(my eyes could be biased) but so far nobody simply pointing at Brock's turnovers has done that.

One thing we didn't have last season for the most part is a healthy Christian McCaffrey. People are still talking about what an impact he has on the offense.

Last year CMC was active(not sure how healthy) for 4 games. 3 of them with Brock as QB.

Brock in those games:
25/36 353 yards 2TD 0INT Tampa Bay
21/28 159 yards 1 TD 1INT 40 yards rushing 1 rushing TD Seattle - the interception was on a checkdown to CMC that the defender made a great play on and batted it up in the air that a DLMan caught it.
11/18 94 yards 0 TD 0 INT 1 fumble lost

So when CMC was on the field with him last year his turnovers were not rampant.

So I guess we can just overlook the poor decisions that resulted in those INTs. Not having CMC can mean fewer easy completions but it doesn't explain the poor decisions to throw into double coverage at critical times.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

If Jones ended up leading the team to a SB victory and the Niners decided to go with him they can release Purdy after the 2026 season without a major cap hit. It's unlikely that this will happen so it's all just talk.

People that are using the toe as an excuse for Brock's recent performance need to go back and look at his last 5 games. Including the last 3 from 2024 he's thrown 9 TD passes and has 8 INTs. His stats for last season and the 2 games this year are 24 TDs and 16 INTs in 17 games. Not a very good TD to INT ratio. If he's going to go forward and continue as the starter he'll need to cut way down on those INTs and increase the TD number.

Once again his issues from the Jags game have absolutely nothing to do with other games. There is a clear difference in his accuracy even from the first game this season which I would say is a much better indicator of Brock now vs last year.

I'm not sure why some people are so eager to overlook that clear difference which is easily explained by the injury.

I went back to look at the interceptions last year and there were not many terrible decisions out there. I recommend others go back and see for themselves(my eyes could be biased) but so far nobody simply pointing at Brock's turnovers has done that.

One thing we didn't have last season for the most part is a healthy Christian McCaffrey. People are still talking about what an impact he has on the offense.

Last year CMC was active(not sure how healthy) for 4 games. 3 of them with Brock as QB.

Brock in those games:
25/36 353 yards 2TD 0INT Tampa Bay
21/28 159 yards 1 TD 1INT 40 yards rushing 1 rushing TD Seattle - the interception was on a checkdown to CMC that the defender made a great play on and batted it up in the air that a DLMan caught it.
11/18 94 yards 0 TD 0 INT 1 fumble lost

So when CMC was on the field with him last year his turnovers were not rampant.

So I guess we can just overlook the poor decisions that resulted in those INTs. Not having CMC can mean fewer easy completions but it doesn't explain the poor decisions to throw into double coverage at critical times.

Cosell and Kyle both said there was illegal contact on that play, but I'm sure you didn't want to accept that

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If Jones ended up leading the team to a SB victory and the Niners decided to go with him they can release Purdy after the 2026 season without a major cap hit. It's unlikely that this will happen so it's all just talk.

People that are using the toe as an excuse for Brock's recent performance need to go back and look at his last 5 games. Including the last 3 from 2024 he's thrown 9 TD passes and has 8 INTs. His stats for last season and the 2 games this year are 24 TDs and 16 INTs in 17 games. Not a very good TD to INT ratio. If he's going to go forward and continue as the starter he'll need to cut way down on those INTs and increase the TD number.

Once again his issues from the Jags game have absolutely nothing to do with other games. There is a clear difference in his accuracy even from the first game this season which I would say is a much better indicator of Brock now vs last year.

I'm not sure why some people are so eager to overlook that clear difference which is easily explained by the injury.

I went back to look at the interceptions last year and there were not many terrible decisions out there. I recommend others go back and see for themselves(my eyes could be biased) but so far nobody simply pointing at Brock's turnovers has done that.

One thing we didn't have last season for the most part is a healthy Christian McCaffrey. People are still talking about what an impact he has on the offense.

Last year CMC was active(not sure how healthy) for 4 games. 3 of them with Brock as QB.

Brock in those games:
25/36 353 yards 2TD 0INT Tampa Bay
21/28 159 yards 1 TD 1INT 40 yards rushing 1 rushing TD Seattle - the interception was on a checkdown to CMC that the defender made a great play on and batted it up in the air that a DLMan caught it.
11/18 94 yards 0 TD 0 INT 1 fumble lost

So when CMC was on the field with him last year his turnovers were not rampant.

So I guess we can just overlook the poor decisions that resulted in those INTs. Not having CMC can mean fewer easy completions but it doesn't explain the poor decisions to throw into double coverage at critical times.

Which ones were poor decisions? I went through all the interceptions Brock threw last year and this year and asked someone else to double check me.

You're welcome to do it. I see a lot of posters coming in here and making statements they're not willing to back up with evidence. I'm not saying you're wrong because my bias could make me see something you may not but that's why I'm asking someone to check themselves and tell me where I'm wrong.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:
If Mac Jones wins us a SB. Sign me up! I don't care who the QB is honestly. I just want to experience that feeling again.

However a reminder that Mac is signed to a 2 year deal. If he wins the SB for us this year whether this offseason or the following one he will require a new contract as well. Maybe he won't command the same deal as Brock but a SB win goes a long way in the negotiations.

So what do we do there? Just let him play out his deal and bring in another reclamation project?

There you go. I give TD the lion's share of the credit for helping your perspective evolve.

It was painful to admit we were wrong about Jimmy, but we evolved.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Defensive coordinators may have picked out that Brock's early success was based on throwing over the middle. His timing and accuracy were impressive. But if the DCs have plugged up the middle, that may have forced Brock to throw outside, challenging his arm strength. He has also thrown "lucky" passes. The final TD vs. Seattle in week 1 is an example. I agree with those who say last season is not a fair basis to judge Brock. Still, Brock has many intangibles including quick processing and quick feet. Let him recover fully with no risk of aggravating the injury. Regardless, the 49ers will have a valuable trade possibility in the off-season, if not before.

Why are we making things up now?

As for the lucky passes thing...which QB doesn't have lucky passes from time to time? Brock threw the ball up and let his guy make a play knowing he didn't want to see Jake Moody on the field.

In the end nobody cares about lucky throws if they're game winning TDs.

This is exactly how the league figured out Jimmy. Concerning for Brock.

Originally posted by irief:
This is exactly how the league figured out Jimmy. Concerning for Brock.

Would be concerning if Brock was only able to attack the middle of the field.

Which is no the case...

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:
If Mac Jones wins us a SB. Sign me up! I don't care who the QB is honestly. I just want to experience that feeling again.

However a reminder that Mac is signed to a 2 year deal. If he wins the SB for us this year whether this offseason or the following one he will require a new contract as well. Maybe he won't command the same deal as Brock but a SB win goes a long way in the negotiations.

So what do we do there? Just let him play out his deal and bring in another reclamation project?

There you go! I give TD the lion's share of the credit for helping your perspective evolve.

It was painful to admit we were wrong about Jimmy, but we evolved.

God, this is so unnecessarily condescending.

Originally posted by irief:
This is exactly how the league figured out Jimmy. Concerning for Brock.

When did Jimmy lead the league in ypa?

If you think Jimmy and Brock are the same you dont watch the film of the games.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If Jones ended up leading the team to a SB victory and the Niners decided to go with him they can release Purdy after the 2026 season without a major cap hit. It's unlikely that this will happen so it's all just talk.

People that are using the toe as an excuse for Brock's recent performance need to go back and look at his last 5 games. Including the last 3 from 2024 he's thrown 9 TD passes and has 8 INTs. His stats for last season and the 2 games this year are 24 TDs and 16 INTs in 17 games. Not a very good TD to INT ratio. If he's going to go forward and continue as the starter he'll need to cut way down on those INTs and increase the TD number.

Once again his issues from the Jags game have absolutely nothing to do with other games. There is a clear difference in his accuracy even from the first game this season which I would say is a much better indicator of Brock now vs last year.

I'm not sure why some people are so eager to overlook that clear difference which is easily explained by the injury.

I went back to look at the interceptions last year and there were not many terrible decisions out there. I recommend others go back and see for themselves(my eyes could be biased) but so far nobody simply pointing at Brock's turnovers has done that.

One thing we didn't have last season for the most part is a healthy Christian McCaffrey. People are still talking about what an impact he has on the offense.

Last year CMC was active(not sure how healthy) for 4 games. 3 of them with Brock as QB.

Brock in those games:
25/36 353 yards 2TD 0INT Tampa Bay
21/28 159 yards 1 TD 1INT 40 yards rushing 1 rushing TD Seattle - the interception was on a checkdown to CMC that the defender made a great play on and batted it up in the air that a DLMan caught it.
11/18 94 yards 0 TD 0 INT 1 fumble lost

So when CMC was on the field with him last year his turnovers were not rampant.

So I guess we can just overlook the poor decisions that resulted in those INTs. Not having CMC can mean fewer easy completions but it doesn't explain the poor decisions to throw into double coverage at critical times.

Which ones were poor decisions? I went through all the interceptions Brock threw last year and this year and asked someone else to double check me.

You're welcome to do it. I see a lot of posters coming in here and making statements they're not willing to back up with evidence. I'm not saying you're wrong because my bias could make me see something you may not but that's why I'm asking someone to check themselves and tell me where I'm wrong.

I know that when some of those INTs happened the announcers said that it was a poor decision. I seem to remember Brock himself saying it about a couple after the game. You can keep making excuses for his recent poor play but it is what it is. Mac Jones came in and played better than Brock in those 3 games. He had a knee injury that limited his mobility and was still able to play well enough to lead the team to wins. He had fewer weapons to throw to than Purdy did and he got the job done.

I'm not ready to suggest that Jones should replace him but you can't deny he's played better than Brock this year. Brock now needs to show he can return to that 2023 form.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I know that when some of those INTs happened the announcers said that it was a poor decision. I seem to remember Brock himself saying it about a couple after the game. You can keep making excuses for his recent poor play but it is what it is. Mac Jones came in and played better than Brock in those 3 games. He had a knee injury that limited his mobility and was still able to play well enough to lead the team to wins. He had fewer weapons to throw to than Purdy did and he got the job done.

I'm not ready to suggest that Jones should replace him but you can't deny he's played better than Brock this year. Brock now needs to show he can return to that 2023 form.

Brock in Seattle was better than Mac against New Orleans or Arizona despite the turnovers. This last game Mac was impressive.

Has nothing to do with the luck part to me it just comes down to taking care of the football, and last year and so far this year he is not doing well at that stat.

Like I heard on Sport talk radio. If we can give him credit for all the good games then we can critique on his bad games and bad play.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I know that when some of those INTs happened the announcers said that it was a poor decision. I seem to remember Brock himself saying it about a couple after the game. You can keep making excuses for his recent poor play but it is what it is. Mac Jones came in and played better than Brock in those 3 games. He had a knee injury that limited his mobility and was still able to play well enough to lead the team to wins. He had fewer weapons to throw to than Purdy did and he got the job done.

I'm not ready to suggest that Jones should replace him but you can't deny he's played better than Brock this year. Brock now needs to show he can return to that 2023 form.

Brock in Seattle was better than Mac against New Orleans or Arizona despite the turnovers. This last game Mac was impressive.

Let's also praise Brock's supporting cast when they dropped 6 passes, fumbled, dropped 3 ints, and gave up a punt return

Mac doesn't "get it done" if his awful supporting cast did that to him

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:
If Mac Jones wins us a SB. Sign me up! I don't care who the QB is honestly. I just want to experience that feeling again.

However a reminder that Mac is signed to a 2 year deal. If he wins the SB for us this year whether this offseason or the following one he will require a new contract as well. Maybe he won't command the same deal as Brock but a SB win goes a long way in the negotiations.

So what do we do there? Just let him play out his deal and bring in another reclamation project?

There you go! I give TD the lion's share of the credit for helping your perspective evolve.

It was painful to admit we were wrong about Jimmy, but we evolved.

God, this is so unnecessarily condescending.

Not meant to be condescending at all. I was initially on the Jimmy bandwagon, but evolved also. Now it's Brock's turn.

Originally posted by irief:
Not meant to be condescending at all. I was initially on the Jimmy bandwagon, but evolved also. Now it's Brock's turn.

You haven't changed his opinion, just understood it. The nuance of it doesn't make it mean what you think it does. Not everything is a bandwagon.