QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

You keep repeating the Brock needs an all star level cast to have any success. Same excuse you probably made for Jimmy.

What has Jordan love ever done??? In the playoffs, he blew out a cowboys team where his defense caused 4 turnovers, lost the game with maybe the most bone headed int in NFL playoffs history and got embarrassed by the eagles.

Not sure why he continues to get jocked when he has done absolutely nothing in the nfl

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

You keep repeating the Brock needs an all star level cast to have any success. Same excuse you probably made for Jimmy.

I'll give you one chance to highlight where I said Brock needs an all star level cast to have any success. If you can't find it then come on back here and own the fact that you're arguing in bad faith. Because if all you have is hyperbole to stand on then your point is trash.

His last name is Love though

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All this and that's not saying I think he's a bad QB or can't take us all the way, he's gotta get back to that 22/23 mindset.

I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

Or another take, he's simply playing the in a similar way but in 22/23 was surrounded by an offense loaded with most of the probowl team that season that could overcome a lot and now without that support he is showing us more of what he is but with a 265 million pay raise that this team gave him after his worst statistical and win/loss season in his football career.

You're entitled to your take but the logic doesn't support it.

Here were Brock's numbers with Aiyuk healthy to start last season


The Vikings interception was on a quick throw to Juice, not a hero/yolo whatever you want to call it decision. Defender got in the path and the pass bounced off Juice for a pick.

Pats pick was bad. Purdy should've spotted the safety dropping back and checked it down to Mason.

Cardinals picks were batted at the line and a hit while throwing.

Outside of the Pats pick the issues that some of you are trying to paint as a consistent issue for Brock are simply not matching up to what happened in those games.

Even after Aiyuk was out the picks weren't hero ball situations for the most part.

Seattle pick - short throw to CMC, defender simply makes a good play to get in front of it and the ball bounces up where a DLman snags it for the pick.

Rams pick - if any can be considered hero ball this would be the one and maybe that's why so many people think it was a constant thing with Brock since this was the must have to make the playoffs game - Brock makes the long throw on 2nd down in FG range which wasn't needed. Shanahan however noted the refs missed a flag on that one that should've saved us. However I agree that's not a play you can make since you can't guarantee a flag will be thrown.

Dolphins pick - Brock is hit while throwing, hard to tell what would've happened on that one if he wasn't. He's made that throw over the linebacker before but you could say he should've just dumped it off to Kittle though that lane wasn't clear either cuz of the LT and DE being in it.

Lions picks - first one just sails on Brock. Bad throw all the way, Pearsall had a step on the corner. Second one was just a terrible decision by Brock. Joseph literally didn't move at all from the PA fake. I really don't know what Brock was thinking on that one.

So when you go back to last year I simply don't understand why people are claiming Brock is making these insane decisions that are costing us games. He's not. There is some hero ball mixed in there but in regards to his interceptions there were maybe 2 from last year that you can attribute to that and one of them was in a 23 point win.

So no Brock doesn't need all pro's everywhere. But consistency in this offense is critical. Guys who are able to execute the offense and get to their spot on a designed play. When you have a QB and system that relies so much on anticipation and specific ways to run routes and timing - when you're playing with the bulk of your starters(once again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALL PROS) that timing is thrown off.

Let's also not forget that despite all of that last year we had the 4th overall offense in yards gained and 13th in points scored. Would some of you really be so down on Brock if he had say 35 TDs to go with those 12 picks last year? How many times did our offense bog down in the redzone and have to settle for FGs? Not having your top guys also throws things off there.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

You keep repeating the Brock needs an all star level cast to have any success. Same excuse you probably made for Jimmy.

I'll give you one chance to highlight where I said Brock needs an all star level cast to have any success. If you can't find it then come on back here and own the fact that you're arguing in bad faith. Because if all you have is hyperbole to stand on then your point is trash.

Every QB is going to be better with his top players around him. The difference is that the top tier guys can make enough plays even without their best receivers that they can still manage to win. The margin of error is a little smaller with QBs like Brock. He's not going to beat you with his legs or make that one big amazing throw that leaves defenders shaking their head.

Brock and several QBs in the league are very capable of playing well enough to win but they need a little more support than the very best QBs. That's not taking a shot at Brock but the facts are what they are. He's performed far better than anyine coukd have exoected from a player selected last in the draft but there were reasons he was passed over.

If he had Allen's or Herbert's size and had that big strong arm or had Jackson's running ability he would have gone in the first round. His competitive nature and ability to learn quickly aren't in question. Those factors alone have made him a better QB than some players with more size and athletic ability. Maybe hs lack of size made him the competitive player he is. He had to be in order to succeed.

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

How is that any different than people getting offended when people thought Brock's amazing play was mostly because he was surrounded by "The Avengers" back in 2022/2023? I could be wrong but I think you were downplaying all of that?

we can't have our cake and eat it too. If you're gonna hand out fat paychecks to the QB he will at some point have to play with lesser proven talent. Yes the current roster is hurting….literally, and it affects everything we all can agree there.

Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your take but the logic doesn't support it.

Here were Brock's numbers with Aiyuk healthy to start last season


The Vikings interception was on a quick throw to Juice, not a hero/yolo whatever you want to call it decision. Defender got in the path and the pass bounced off Juice for a pick.

Pats pick was bad. Purdy should've spotted the safety dropping back and checked it down to Mason.

Cardinals picks were batted at the line and a hit while throwing.

Outside of the Pats pick the issues that some of you are trying to paint as a consistent issue for Brock are simply not matching up to what happened in those games.

Even after Aiyuk was out the picks weren't hero ball situations for the most part.

Seattle pick - short throw to CMC, defender simply makes a good play to get in front of it and the ball bounces up where a DLman snags it for the pick.

Rams pick - if any can be considered hero ball this would be the one and maybe that's why so many people think it was a constant thing with Brock since this was the must have to make the playoffs game - Brock makes the long throw on 2nd down in FG range which wasn't needed. Shanahan however noted the refs missed a flag on that one that should've saved us. However I agree that's not a play you can make since you can't guarantee a flag will be thrown.

Dolphins pick - Brock is hit while throwing, hard to tell what would've happened on that one if he wasn't. He's made that throw over the linebacker before but you could say he should've just dumped it off to Kittle though that lane wasn't clear either cuz of the LT and DE being in it.

Lions picks - first one just sails on Brock. Bad throw all the way, Pearsall had a step on the corner. Second one was just a terrible decision by Brock. Joseph literally didn't move at all from the PA fake. I really don't know what Brock was thinking on that one.

So when you go back to last year I simply don't understand why people are claiming Brock is making these insane decisions that are costing us games. He's not. There is some hero ball mixed in there but in regards to his interceptions there were maybe 2 from last year that you can attribute to that and one of them was in a 23 point win.

So no Brock doesn't need all pro's everywhere. But consistency in this offense is critical. Guys who are able to execute the offense and get to their spot on a designed play. When you have a QB and system that relies so much on anticipation and specific ways to run routes and timing - when you're playing with the bulk of your starters(once again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALL PROS) that timing is thrown off.

Let's also not forget that despite all of that last year we had the 4th overall offense in yards gained and 13th in points scored. Would some of you really be so down on Brock if he had say 35 TDs to go with those 12 picks last year? How many times did our offense bog down in the redzone and have to settle for FGs? Not having your top guys also throws things off there.

The irony to your post is his 1st INT was a bad pass to CMC. His 2nd was a pass to JJ. The two people he has the most continuity with in that game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

How is that any different than people getting offended when people thought Brock's amazing play was mostly because he was surrounded by "The Avengers" back in 2022/2023? I could be wrong but I think you were downplaying all of that?

we can't have our cake and eat it too. If you're gonna hand out fat paychecks to the QB he will at some point have to play with lesser proven talent. Yes the current roster is hurting….literally, and it affects everything we all can agree there.

FAT contract? Are you suggesting he is overpaid and isnt entitled to what the market dictates?

I agree. You cant have your cake and eat it too. It was and is clear what Purdy needs to be successful and if you cant accomodate him with highly skilled weapons you should have never signed him.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your take but the logic doesn't support it.

Here were Brock's numbers with Aiyuk healthy to start last season


The Vikings interception was on a quick throw to Juice, not a hero/yolo whatever you want to call it decision. Defender got in the path and the pass bounced off Juice for a pick.

Pats pick was bad. Purdy should've spotted the safety dropping back and checked it down to Mason.

Cardinals picks were batted at the line and a hit while throwing.

Outside of the Pats pick the issues that some of you are trying to paint as a consistent issue for Brock are simply not matching up to what happened in those games.

Even after Aiyuk was out the picks weren't hero ball situations for the most part.

Seattle pick - short throw to CMC, defender simply makes a good play to get in front of it and the ball bounces up where a DLman snags it for the pick.

Rams pick - if any can be considered hero ball this would be the one and maybe that's why so many people think it was a constant thing with Brock since this was the must have to make the playoffs game - Brock makes the long throw on 2nd down in FG range which wasn't needed. Shanahan however noted the refs missed a flag on that one that should've saved us. However I agree that's not a play you can make since you can't guarantee a flag will be thrown.

Dolphins pick - Brock is hit while throwing, hard to tell what would've happened on that one if he wasn't. He's made that throw over the linebacker before but you could say he should've just dumped it off to Kittle though that lane wasn't clear either cuz of the LT and DE being in it.

Lions picks - first one just sails on Brock. Bad throw all the way, Pearsall had a step on the corner. Second one was just a terrible decision by Brock. Joseph literally didn't move at all from the PA fake. I really don't know what Brock was thinking on that one.

So when you go back to last year I simply don't understand why people are claiming Brock is making these insane decisions that are costing us games. He's not. There is some hero ball mixed in there but in regards to his interceptions there were maybe 2 from last year that you can attribute to that and one of them was in a 23 point win.

So no Brock doesn't need all pro's everywhere. But consistency in this offense is critical. Guys who are able to execute the offense and get to their spot on a designed play. When you have a QB and system that relies so much on anticipation and specific ways to run routes and timing - when you're playing with the bulk of your starters(once again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALL PROS) that timing is thrown off.

Let's also not forget that despite all of that last year we had the 4th overall offense in yards gained and 13th in points scored. Would some of you really be so down on Brock if he had say 35 TDs to go with those 12 picks last year? How many times did our offense bog down in the redzone and have to settle for FGs? Not having your top guys also throws things off there.

The irony to your post is his 1st INT was a bad pass to CMC. His 2nd was a pass to JJ. The two people he has the most continuity with in that game.

I told you the blame list was coming.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your take but the logic doesn't support it.

Here were Brock's numbers with Aiyuk healthy to start last season


The Vikings interception was on a quick throw to Juice, not a hero/yolo whatever you want to call it decision. Defender got in the path and the pass bounced off Juice for a pick.

Pats pick was bad. Purdy should've spotted the safety dropping back and checked it down to Mason.

Cardinals picks were batted at the line and a hit while throwing.

Outside of the Pats pick the issues that some of you are trying to paint as a consistent issue for Brock are simply not matching up to what happened in those games.

Even after Aiyuk was out the picks weren't hero ball situations for the most part.

Seattle pick - short throw to CMC, defender simply makes a good play to get in front of it and the ball bounces up where a DLman snags it for the pick.

Rams pick - if any can be considered hero ball this would be the one and maybe that's why so many people think it was a constant thing with Brock since this was the must have to make the playoffs game - Brock makes the long throw on 2nd down in FG range which wasn't needed. Shanahan however noted the refs missed a flag on that one that should've saved us. However I agree that's not a play you can make since you can't guarantee a flag will be thrown.

Dolphins pick - Brock is hit while throwing, hard to tell what would've happened on that one if he wasn't. He's made that throw over the linebacker before but you could say he should've just dumped it off to Kittle though that lane wasn't clear either cuz of the LT and DE being in it.

Lions picks - first one just sails on Brock. Bad throw all the way, Pearsall had a step on the corner. Second one was just a terrible decision by Brock. Joseph literally didn't move at all from the PA fake. I really don't know what Brock was thinking on that one.

So when you go back to last year I simply don't understand why people are claiming Brock is making these insane decisions that are costing us games. He's not. There is some hero ball mixed in there but in regards to his interceptions there were maybe 2 from last year that you can attribute to that and one of them was in a 23 point win.

So no Brock doesn't need all pro's everywhere. But consistency in this offense is critical. Guys who are able to execute the offense and get to their spot on a designed play. When you have a QB and system that relies so much on anticipation and specific ways to run routes and timing - when you're playing with the bulk of your starters(once again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALL PROS) that timing is thrown off.

Let's also not forget that despite all of that last year we had the 4th overall offense in yards gained and 13th in points scored. Would some of you really be so down on Brock if he had say 35 TDs to go with those 12 picks last year? How many times did our offense bog down in the redzone and have to settle for FGs? Not having your top guys also throws things off there.

The irony to your post is his 1st INT was a bad pass to CMC. His 2nd was a pass to JJ. The two people he has the most continuity with in that game.

I told you the blame list was coming.

No response worth a lick...shocking.

I spent the time going back and checking on all of those interceptions he threw last year. You're all going off memory. Not a single one of you will go back and argue in good faith. Just choose to grasp onto straws and ignore the main point.

Now we want to play dumb and think continuity in this offense doesn't matter. It doesn't guarantee perfect play...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your take but the logic doesn't support it.

Here were Brock's numbers with Aiyuk healthy to start last season


The Vikings interception was on a quick throw to Juice, not a hero/yolo whatever you want to call it decision. Defender got in the path and the pass bounced off Juice for a pick.

Pats pick was bad. Purdy should've spotted the safety dropping back and checked it down to Mason.

Cardinals picks were batted at the line and a hit while throwing.

Outside of the Pats pick the issues that some of you are trying to paint as a consistent issue for Brock are simply not matching up to what happened in those games.

Even after Aiyuk was out the picks weren't hero ball situations for the most part.

Seattle pick - short throw to CMC, defender simply makes a good play to get in front of it and the ball bounces up where a DLman snags it for the pick.

Rams pick - if any can be considered hero ball this would be the one and maybe that's why so many people think it was a constant thing with Brock since this was the must have to make the playoffs game - Brock makes the long throw on 2nd down in FG range which wasn't needed. Shanahan however noted the refs missed a flag on that one that should've saved us. However I agree that's not a play you can make since you can't guarantee a flag will be thrown.

Dolphins pick - Brock is hit while throwing, hard to tell what would've happened on that one if he wasn't. He's made that throw over the linebacker before but you could say he should've just dumped it off to Kittle though that lane wasn't clear either cuz of the LT and DE being in it.

Lions picks - first one just sails on Brock. Bad throw all the way, Pearsall had a step on the corner. Second one was just a terrible decision by Brock. Joseph literally didn't move at all from the PA fake. I really don't know what Brock was thinking on that one.

So when you go back to last year I simply don't understand why people are claiming Brock is making these insane decisions that are costing us games. He's not. There is some hero ball mixed in there but in regards to his interceptions there were maybe 2 from last year that you can attribute to that and one of them was in a 23 point win.

So no Brock doesn't need all pro's everywhere. But consistency in this offense is critical. Guys who are able to execute the offense and get to their spot on a designed play. When you have a QB and system that relies so much on anticipation and specific ways to run routes and timing - when you're playing with the bulk of your starters(once again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALL PROS) that timing is thrown off.

Let's also not forget that despite all of that last year we had the 4th overall offense in yards gained and 13th in points scored. Would some of you really be so down on Brock if he had say 35 TDs to go with those 12 picks last year? How many times did our offense bog down in the redzone and have to settle for FGs? Not having your top guys also throws things off there.

The irony to your post is his 1st INT was a bad pass to CMC. His 2nd was a pass to JJ. The two people he has the most continuity with in that game.

I told you the blame list was coming.

No response worth a lick...shocking.

I spent the time going back and checking on all of those interceptions he threw last year. You're all going off memory. Not a single one of you will go back and argue in good faith. Just choose to grasp onto straws and ignore the main point.

Now we want to play dumb and think continuity in this offense doesn't matter. It doesn't guarantee perfect play...

Just waiting in your back pocket?

Originally posted by genus49:
No response worth a lick...shocking.

I spent the time going back and checking on all of those interceptions he threw last year. You're all going off memory. Not a single one of you will go back and argue in good faith. Just choose to grasp onto straws and ignore the main point.

Now we want to play dumb and think continuity in this offense doesn't matter. It doesn't guarantee perfect play...

You are the one grasping at straws. You are debating a million different things and nothing all at the same time.

To be fair I know what it's like to have to respond to umpteen people at the same time. It takes you all over the place.

So I will kindly jump off the merry go round and let you gentlemen be.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?

Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?

How is that any different than people getting offended when people thought Brock's amazing play was mostly because he was surrounded by "The Avengers" back in 2022/2023? I could be wrong but I think you were downplaying all of that?

we can't have our cake and eat it too. If you're gonna hand out fat paychecks to the QB he will at some point have to play with lesser proven talent. Yes the current roster is hurting….literally, and it affects everything we all can agree there.

Because playing the QB position at a high level is not easy in this league regardless of who is out there. The better the talent around a QB the better they look. You have plenty of examples of this. Jared Goff being a prime example.

We all heard the narratives that year though. It's the Avengers. Brock is just mid. He can't win games without Deebo, he can't help the team come back from a multi score lead, etc...

He answered all that BS in the PLAYOFFS. Call me crazy but to me that's where the top QBs really stand out. No Deebo, in the rain - game winning drive vs GB. Then major deficit vs the Lions.

2023 was one of the best seasons in the NFL in terms of per snap performance and yes it was in large part due to the skill players who we had out there. But Brock's ability to find the matchups, get the ball to the right spot and with great anticipation allowed them to take their game to another level as well.

Grant Cohn tried to make a case that Brock's contract was causing all these issues on offense and it's a lame attempt at clickbait. The issue at least right now is NOT Brock's contract. It's that assuming all our guys are healthy right now only 1 out of our top 6 WRs will be active in the game tonight or that Kittle has been out since q2 of week 1.

So what do we have this year from Brock? 1 game where he won vs a tough divisional rival and had game winning drive/TD(whether you want to complain about that last TD the rest of the drive still happened right?) and in the end it was a game winning drive....one that almost didn't count just like last year until Nick Bosa(who unfortunately is no longer around) managed to close out this season.

This last game wasn't good. Ugly game from Brock but still within range with a lot of bad drops and no Nick Bosa to help on defense. And whether you want to acknowledge it or not, at the very least there is an unknown factor due to the injury.

Safe to say I don't know if we can really make the claim the team made a mistake signing Brock at this point.

Get well soon Brock 🙏!!!