Originally posted by Patton:
We are paying the price for getting Montana and Young back to back.
and we continue to OVERPAY Shanny for the 0-2 Super Bowl losses !!
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Originally posted by Patton:
We are paying the price for getting Montana and Young back to back.
Originally posted by tankle104:
So dumb to let Brock play the jags game. Ridiculous. I knew it was dumb at the time and now it looks ridiculous.
I hope we win but man this rams game can get real ugly with no one to throw ro
Originally posted by 9moon:
but Love's ahead of both Favre and Rodgers at this stage of their career... lets at least wait til after his 5th year as a starter...
Originally posted by tankle104:
So dumb to let Brock play the jags game. Ridiculous. I knew it was dumb at the time and now it looks ridiculous.
I hope we win but man this rams game can get real ugly with no one to throw ro
Originally posted by Montana:
Love sucks
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by krizay:
My problem with Brock isn't necessarily his accuracy. My reference to issues last year is him not taking what the play is telling him to take. Instead passing up plays either trying to hit a big play or trying to target (or not target) certain receivers. Even the CMC play that is getting beaten to death CMC wasn't even supposed to be in the route. It was a fake screen to him booting the other way. The over was covered (which i mistakenly posted was open a day or two ago) with Either Juice or the 2nd TE as his outlet. Had he hit Juice immediately after seeing the overwasn't open it's an easy 5 yards. CMC didn't release until he seen Brock holding the ball.
In 22/23 he played in rythm and took what was there. The past 16 months he's holding the ball passing up plays looking for the bigger play or possibly his preferred targets. Even on the sack/fumble watching it live he had a couple options but didn't pull the trigger (I say this without the benefit of seeing replays going off what I think i saw)
This is my issue with Brock.
Nah.
These simps are gonna tell you that you don't know what you're talking about because Brock is great no matter what he does because they like him and they'll find an universe of excuses to justify his bad play since the Baltimore game.
It doesn't matter if in 2022-23 Brock was a mid-tier QB propelled by a pletora of playmakers and since last year he has been exposed as the bad decision-maker he has been since college.
All that matter is that they like Brock on a personal level and that's why if you don't agree with them you know nothing about football.
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm clearly not going to convince folks here who have their opinions which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I will just say rewatching some of these plays may be a good idea cuz it may change that opinion from what you remember in game. I know that's the case for me sometimes.
Originally posted by Montana:
Love sucks
Originally posted by 9moon:
and we continue to OVERPAY Shanny for the 0-2 Super Bowl losses !!
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
Show me another game where his accuracy struggled at that level.
Outside of Bourne that's who Brock had vs Seattle. THIS season and he didn't look anything like that.
You and anyone trying to correlate last year to this one isn't being serious. You literally have a game with this roster to look at and it's nothing like the Jags game.
My problem with Brock isn't necessarily his accuracy. My reference to issues last year is him not taking what the play is telling him to take. Instead passing up plays either trying to hit a big play or trying to target (or not target) certain receivers. Even the CMC play that is getting beaten to death CMC wasn't even supposed to be in the route. It was a fake screen to him booting the other way. The over was covered (which i mistakenly posted was open a day or two ago) with Either Juice or the 2nd TE as his outlet. Had he hit Juice immediately after seeing the overwasn't open it's an easy 5 yards. CMC didn't release until he seen Brock holding the ball.
In 22/23 he played in rythm and took what was there. The past 16 months he's holding the ball passing up plays looking for the bigger play or possibly his preferred targets. Even on the sack/fumble watching it live he had a couple options but didn't pull the trigger (I say this without the benefit of seeing replays going off what I think i saw)
This is my issue with Brock.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
All this and that's not saying I think he's a bad QB or can't take us all the way, he's gotta get back to that 22/23 mindset.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
All this and that's not saying I think he's a bad QB or can't take us all the way, he's gotta get back to that 22/23 mindset.
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?
Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
All this and that's not saying I think he's a bad QB or can't take us all the way, he's gotta get back to that 22/23 mindset.
I don't want to keep repeating the same stuff over and over but will you at least acknowledge that when you have inconsistent play at the skill positions or not continuity out there in an offense built around timing and very specific details on each play that it can impact how the QB looks or plays?
Much easier to play with that 22/23 mindset when you know all these guys can house anything. A lot more likely to play hero ball when you feel like you have to or team will lose no?
Or another take, he's simply playing the in a similar way but in 22/23 was surrounded by an offense loaded with most of the probowl team that season that could overcome a lot and now without that support he is showing us more of what he is but with a 265 million pay raise that this team gave him after his worst statistical and win/loss season in his football career.