QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
They rushed him back into that Jacksonville game and he probably maintained he was fine. Should have started Jones last week; if so we win that game.

Mac Jones was more hurt than Purdy, and also isnt as good of a QB. So I reject your conclusion.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
For the record, the pass to CMC was no worse than this one, which he caught:

Rams Week 🐏

Throwback to Christian McCaffrey scoring 3 TDS against The Rams: 1 Rush, 1 passing, 1 receiving ⚡?

CMC might need to pull this off again with the injuries the #49ers are dealing with this week pic.twitter.com/IOPeACrgCm

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) October 1, 2025

So it IS humanly impossible to jump and stretch both arms up simultaneously to catch the ball.

Originally posted by dj43:
Pardon the interruption: I've been lurking but no time to post.

I can agree it was not a good pass, however, based on the circumstances, it was not a bad decision. We should never judge the decision based only on results.

Would you rather have the ball in the hands of your #1 playmaker on the team (CMC) in an area where he might take it to the house, or toss it to your fullback who MIGHT pick up a first down if he can shake a tackle?

I've broken this play down several times now. It was not because of the result. Read above.

Jonnydel did a great breakdown of the game. While Purdy was off the personnel around him caused a lot of the issues. Amount of tds missed by bad execution in run blocking or blocking in space was crazy. Even guys running into each other on plays.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Here is the post of mine that you found and quoted last night, since you're trying to now weasel out of this:

'QBR is complete trash as the results end up being ALL OVER THE PLACE. How/why anyone still cites this is ridiculous to me. A stat should at least somewhat reflect how good/bad a player is, shouldn't it? Meaning, you shouldn't be able to have a good rating for a particular stat, but actually be playing terrible; or vice versa. But that's exactly what happens with QBR. Every year, every week. It's pathetic and totally unreliable.

We know why certain posters are citing it though.'
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'You're cherry picking. Shocker. Now look at QB rating. Very few outliers, where with QBR there are several (both on the high end and low end). QBR is unreliable. Period.'
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'So a written summary of the theory of what they're attempting to do is a better argument than the actual results of the calculation of their method? Come on, bro. Lol.

There are NINE QB's ranked ahead of Jimmy in QBR who he is clearly outplaying. You cannot find 9 QB's ranked lower than Jimmy in passer rating that are outplaying him. I doubt you can even find 5.

QB rating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> QBR'

Clearly the conversation was about Jimmy and QBR and how he was not ranked highly in QBR. Like I said, I have admitted I was wrong about Jimmy; and also wrong about QBR, for similar reasons. I am also not saying that any one stat is perfect nor am I saying passer rating doesn't matter. But we're hearing posters say that Purdy is "bottom half" in the NFL and "playing poorly." If you only look at passer rating, that would make sense. But when you also look at QBR (which adjusts for drops and adds in other aspects of playing QB), you can see a more clear picture of his play.

So again, you liked QBR when it favored your argument against Jimmy, but now you don't like it when it hurts your argument against Purdy. The difference is I am admitting that I was wrong about Jimmy and QBR, and explaining why. You are not explaining why you have changed your mind on QBR. As usual, you're distracting from the discussion and trying to pivot to some weird argument about me.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Here you go again, not quoting the entire string of comments, hoping that people won't look back to see what you said.

"5 yards, 2 yards, it doesn't actually matter." YOUR words.

Yes, it does matter, A LOT. There was NOT an option for a guaranteed 5 yards as you and others have been arguing. Juice was 2-3 yards behind the LOS, back facing the defense, flat footed, defender closing in. And you and others have argued for days now that THAT was the "right read" and that Purdy should have just thrown it to him. You've argued that the decision to throw to CMC was a "YOLO pass" and not the right read.

But we fully understand now that you want a checkdown QB to "take what's there." Even though we had that with Jimmy G and you hated it and said that we needed a more aggressive QB. Like I said, some fans are just grumpy and negative and like to complain about everything.

At no point did I say we needed to get 5 yards… that it was guaranteed we'd get 5 yards. I have said multiple times it doesn't matter. It's 1st and 10. Take what you can get and move on to 2nd down.

As for the top post, you can continue to weasel out of your hypocrisy, but I'm not buying it. I don't promote QBR, passer rating, or statistics really in general. I make this point routinely on this board. And again, I wasn't arguing against Jimmy then. I wasn't even involved in the conversation. You can go back and read for yourself instead of making up arguments I never made to make this moment less embarrassing for you. *Prove* I said what you are claiming. Complete bozo.

Just stay out and get all the way healthy even it takes all year. I'm sure Mac can win several games when some of these other players come back off injury maybe he won't be throwin Int's all over the field.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by dj43:
Good point.

Now imagine the uneasiness Purdy feels when he looks around and sees Bourne, Moore, and Tonges, trying to run patterns that he can trust.

Bourne, Moore and Tonges wasn't even on the team when his issues started. This game was not a one off.

Show me another game where his accuracy struggled at that level.

Outside of Bourne that's who Brock had vs Seattle. THIS season and he didn't look anything like that.

You and anyone trying to correlate last year to this one isn't being serious. You literally have a game with this roster to look at and it's nothing like the Jags game.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
They rushed him back into that Jacksonville game and he probably maintained he was fine. Should have started Jones last week; if so we win that game.

Mac Jones was more hurt than Purdy, and also isnt as good of a QB. So I reject your conclusion.

He's 2-0

So now Brock's toe is worse than they thought "might linger all season". Pretty soon it will be Burrow level (surgery and out for the year).

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
You're arguing in bad faith with this...

As I said above there was a reason I mentioned CMC not going for it. I've been consistent about that play the whole time. Bad throw. A catch that could've still been made despite the bad throw. Not a bad decision to make the throw.

And yes I expect CMC to catch it cuz he's a great player and he's caught high passes before. I expect all of our players to help the other whether it's the receivers making tough catches on poorly thrown balls or QBs trying to make plays when the OL breaks down.

And please stop moving the goal post about how nobody is arguing about CMC being open. The whole idea of it being a bad decision is related to how the play was happening. You may have said CMC was open but you also spent many a posts talking about how the passing lane wasn't...it was. The screenshot shows it also I just circled the mass amount of space CMC had if he caught the ball.

Don't try to distract from the same point i've been arguing against here - this was a perfectly fine decision by Brock to throw that ball. It's not hero ball. Everything else is fluff. If you want to agree to the decision being fine then we can move on. If you don't then let's argue that...not these other things you're stretching as something I meant differently than I did.

Keep hedging bud.

I haven't moved a goalpost one inch in this conversation. It was a bad pass and a bad decision. I've supported those positions in detail. You can continue to contort yourself to minimize Brock's responsibility on the play.

lol there is no hedge bud. My narrative has been consistent the whole time. Meanwhile you're looking at a play you claim was open and still talking about how throwing that ball was a bad decision by an NFL QB.

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
They rushed him back into that Jacksonville game and he probably maintained he was fine. Should have started Jones last week; if so we win that game.

Mac Jones was more hurt than Purdy, and also isnt as good of a QB. So I reject your conclusion.

He's 2-0

Quarterbacks dont have win-loss records. The fact that this is your reply to me says all that needs to be said.

Originally posted by genus49:
Show me another game where his accuracy struggled at that level.

Outside of Bourne that's who Brock had vs Seattle. THIS season and he didn't look anything like that.

You and anyone trying to correlate last year to this one isn't being serious. You literally have a game with this roster to look at and it's nothing like the Jags game.

Brock played well against Seattle, except for the multiple turnovers. That's the problem going back to last season Krizay is referencing. The problem Brock made a point to address this offseason. The problem we've seen zero improvement in through two games. It's a decision making issue, not an accuracy one. Is there a reason you are having trouble recognizing Krizay's obvious point? Is this yet another deflection/minimization tactic?

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yes, you have made that abundantly clear. However, what you havent made clear is where there is actually a definitive "easy 5 yard completion" to be had on this play. Juice is 2ish yards behind the line of scrimmage, standing flat footed with his back to the direction we are headed, with a linebacker closing in on him. You are banking on him catching the ball, turning around, and either juking the closing linebacker or running over him. In no way can you definitively claim that there was a 5 yard gain to be had on this play.

5 yards, 2 yards, it doesn't actually matter. It's taking what is there, and moving on to the next play instead of forcing a bigger play that ends up in a turnover.

Many people who have defended that decision have described it as 'it's who Brock is'. We are supposed to be improving in this area. Again, Brock has specifically addressed his need to take what's there and not force bigger plays. It is a point of emphasis, yet we have fans who think this problem… and it is a problem going back for some time… should be reinforced.

You can't be serious. The success rate of getting a 1st down on 2nd and 5 vs. 2nd and 8 is a big difference. And you simply don't check down on 1st and 10 and take 5 or 2 yards "just because it's there" when you have an open WR in the middle of the field for a potential TD.

You'd be much better off just admitting that it was the right decision, and then continue arguing that the throw was bad and what caused the INT (which is also false but at least you won't be arguing a stupid point).

Seriously. It's an absurd idea to ask the QB to constantly throw checkdowns on 1st down as a premise.

How long do you think it will take the opposing teams to clock that as a tendency?

It's one thing to not make bad decisions and take risky throws on 1st and 2nd down. It's another to root for conservative plays constantly. If the CMC play is considered risky then we have a serious problem…

Originally posted by genus49:
Seriously. It's an absurd idea to ask the QB to constantly throw checkdowns on 1st down as a premise.

How long do you think it will take the opposing teams to clock that as a tendency?

It's one thing to not make bad decisions and take risky throws on 1st and 2nd down. It's another to root for conservative plays constantly. If the CMC play is considered risky then we have a serious problem…

The premise isn't to constantly throw checkdowns on first down. The premise is that the checkdown was the right decision on this specific play.

Really hard to distinguish isn't it?

Originally posted by Ajinsc:
So now Brock's toe is worse than they thought "might linger all season". Pretty soon it will be Burrow level (surgery and out for the year).

This team keeps getting f**ked on contracts and injuries. Should've let him play out the last year of his contract.