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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

dude was running around and moving all game, we gotta stop with the well he doesn't feel 100% so he can't be good stuff. It's the NFL and there isn't gonna be any point here they're 100%.

we shouldn't have to dig through the weeds to find any excuse possible outside of the easiest explanation in that he simply missed it.

Not all injuries are equal. In the case of a quarterback, the inability to properly transfer their weight to the front foot limits the follow-thru and subsequent ball placement. He can live with a sore left shoulder but not something that directly impacts the most important thing he does. Running isn't the same as throwing it.

QBs have to learn to live with injuries. Very few are in perfect health after a couple games. They get stepped on. They bang their hand on helmets. Their ribs get hurt. Stafford is playing with a back issue. He played several years on a bad Lions team. I'm sure he had a lot of injuries during those years.

As I said, different injuries affect players differently. Some are only an unpleasant nuisance while others are critical. In the present case, the toe injury was projected to keep him OUT for 4+ weeks. It is only logical that it has impacted his throwing motion as well as pain.

Knowing what we know about that particular injury, I just hope the reoccurrence of pain does not mean he has aggravated it to the point it will be a problem all year.

I posited earlier in this thread that if Mac had been fully healthy, Purdy would not have played. We will never know but I hope more damage has not been done.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

dude was running around and moving all game, we gotta stop with the well he doesn't feel 100% so he can't be good stuff. It's the NFL and there isn't gonna be any point here they're 100%.

we shouldn't have to dig through the weeds to find any excuse possible outside of the easiest explanation in that he simply missed it.

Not all injuries are equal. In the case of a quarterback, the inability to properly transfer their weight to the front foot limits the follow-thru and subsequent ball placement. He can live with a sore left shoulder but not something that directly impacts the most important thing he does. Running isn't the same as throwing it.

QBs have to learn to live with injuries. Very few are in perfect health after a couple games. They get stepped on. They bang their hand on helmets. Their ribs get hurt. Stafford is playing with a back issue. He played several years on a bad Lions team. I'm sure he had a lot of injuries during those years.

Why isn't Joe Burrow playing? He's getting paid more than Brock.

I'm sure Brock's shoulder wasn't feeling great. He suffered the original toe injury in the 2nd quarter vs Seattle. He played in the 2nd half and won the game for us.

Injuries to legs/feet throw things off. Obviously Brock played but an injury to his feet can certainly impact his accuracy and in an anticipation based game if accuracy is off just a tad then it can be a big problem. It was a big problem.

Just a couple of those passes drop down and we're 4-0 right now. Heck even with those if our guys just catch passes(difficult or not) we're winning that game.

But it's still a long season. If he's feeling issues after the game it's not smart to throw him out there on a short week unless he's the healthiest QB we have. It doesn't sound like he is. We'll see what happens soon enough. But we're still 3-1. Even in the likely scenario where we lose Thursday we're 3-2 and control our own destiny for the division.

Burrow's injury was more serious and required surgery. Brock's apparanetly isn't bad enough for that. Big difference. If his toe was so bad that he couldn't throw then that's on the Niners for allowing him to play. If Brock said it wasn't bothering him durng the game then we should believe him. Do we have to second guess every decision and every play?
Matt Stafford playing with a messed up back. Wasn't even sure he could start the season? Did it miraculously go away?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
What a rough go for BP. Went from Big Cak Brock to Micro Cak Brock by most fans in just 2 games lol.

Can we just get avg cak Brock ROS?

Doubt it with this oline.


Yet both QBs are injured and our All Pro RB is barely averaging 3 yards a carry lol
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Matt Stafford playing with a messed up back. Wasn't even sure he could start the season? Did it miraculously go away?

Epidurals.
Originally posted by genus49:
Letting it rip to guys he trusts sure. A guy who dropped 3 balls already at that point would be the hero ball you don't want him to play. Keep the same energy man. We literally have people in this thread complaining that Brock was looking to throw it deep there(he wasn't)

That's Tyson Campbell on Bourne. Tyson runs a 4.38 40. Bourne runs a 4.68 40. That is the exact type of play you're screaming that he should be avoiding on 1st down.

You're all over the place here.

Only one all over the place here is you bud…. I take that back, you're consistent with the everything else but Brock takes that's for sure.

No one within 4 yards of Brock in his drop back, Bourne has his dude beat one on one and instead of letting it go like he seems to always do, he ends up fumbling it on 1st down.

I don't need him to make the "big play" every drop back. He seems to want to do it regardless of what else is going around him….except there when it's time to actually make a play Or a that very least tuck it and run for positive yards.

he's gotta play better than he has the past yr + period. You can try and mask all of it with "ya buts", he's not some 7th rd cool story anymore. He's one of the highest play players in the NFL.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Matt Stafford playing with a messed up back. Wasn't even sure he could start the season? Did it miraculously go away?

Epidurals.

🤢 Damn, that's a thing that could come crashing down on him at any time.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Matt Stafford playing with a messed up back. Wasn't even sure he could start the season? Did it miraculously go away?

Messed up back and one of the worst OLs in football….I don't hear about excuses for him
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

dude was running around and moving all game, we gotta stop with the well he doesn't feel 100% so he can't be good stuff. It's the NFL and there isn't gonna be any point here they're 100%.

we shouldn't have to dig through the weeds to find any excuse possible outside of the easiest explanation in that he simply missed it.

Not all injuries are equal. In the case of a quarterback, the inability to properly transfer their weight to the front foot limits the follow-thru and subsequent ball placement. He can live with a sore left shoulder but not something that directly impacts the most important thing he does. Running isn't the same as throwing it.

QBs have to learn to live with injuries. Very few are in perfect health after a couple games. They get stepped on. They bang their hand on helmets. Their ribs get hurt. Stafford is playing with a back issue. He played several years on a bad Lions team. I'm sure he had a lot of injuries during those years.

Why isn't Joe Burrow playing? He's getting paid more than Brock.

I'm sure Brock's shoulder wasn't feeling great. He suffered the original toe injury in the 2nd quarter vs Seattle. He played in the 2nd half and won the game for us.

Injuries to legs/feet throw things off. Obviously Brock played but an injury to his feet can certainly impact his accuracy and in an anticipation based game if accuracy is off just a tad then it can be a big problem. It was a big problem.

Just a couple of those passes drop down and we're 4-0 right now. Heck even with those if our guys just catch passes(difficult or not) we're winning that game.

But it's still a long season. If he's feeling issues after the game it's not smart to throw him out there on a short week unless he's the healthiest QB we have. It doesn't sound like he is. We'll see what happens soon enough. But we're still 3-1. Even in the likely scenario where we lose Thursday we're 3-2 and control our own destiny for the division.

Burrow's injury was more serious and required surgery. Brock's apparanetly isn't bad enough for that. Big difference. If his toe was so bad that he couldn't throw then that's on the Niners for allowing him to play. If Brock said it wasn't bothering him durng the game then we should believe him. Do we have to second guess every decision and every play?

I understand the difference obviously. Simply saying how it's silly to use contract status to claim guys should go on the field when they're injured. Injuries play a factor in performance and can make things worse long term. Obviously Brock could throw. He did have over 300 yards passing and 2 TDs and should've had more if not for all the drops. But clearly some of the things that he's done so well in the past weren't clicking and the injury very well could be the reason for that.

It's hard for me to believe that throws the guy has made time and time again suddenly he forgot how to do. Much more likely that his mechanics were thrown off by the toe and it made things harder.

I think we also have to understand that virtually no football players will use injury as an excuse...that's what fans are for. They will say everything was fine and it wasn't an issue. The few who bring up injuries are the guys who aren't made of the right stuff. But we see it every year guys who may not even be on the injury report end up getting surgery to fix stuff after the season. Just last year we found out Fred was playing with a fracture in his ankle IIRC and never showed up on the injury report and played in every game.

Obviously I don't know what Brock was feeling. I'm going off the fact that he clearly missed throws he's made time and time again in the past, the fact that his footwork looked strained and the fact that he's reporting an issue with the toe after the game(adrenaline is a hell of a thing)
They should just put him on IR and shut him down for the season so that he can heal from this injury. Asking him to go out there and play effectively while he's in unimaginable levels of pain and unable to throw using his normal mechanics is going to mess him up for the longterm and not likely to result in good QBing.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They should just put him on IR and shut him down for the season so that he can heal from this injury. Asking him to go out there and play effectively while he's in unimaginable levels of pain and unable to throw using his normal mechanics is going to mess him up for the longterm and not likely to result in good QBing.

And reports are that Mac Jones is less healthier than Brock. Why is Mac Jones gonna start. These injuries are annoying!!!
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Its just Nick Wright-esque talking points. "A top paid QB should be able to overcome blah blah blah."

Except we watched the game. With all the injuries we are still in a position to win if our QB doesn't make multiple game altering mistakes. Didn't need perfection, or even top tier execution like you'd typically see from the best players in the league at the position. Just needed to protect the ball and not give away multiple possessions.

Cool. I was at the game and watched a replay as well.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They should just put him on IR and shut him down for the season so that he can heal from this injury. Asking him to go out there and play effectively while he's in unimaginable levels of pain and unable to throw using his normal mechanics is going to mess him up for the longterm and not likely to result in good QBing.

If the injury was that bad I'm sure they would but he was able to play.

I hate to say this because I think Brock is a pretty good QB but the excuses are starting to sound like what we heard when JG started having problems.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Matt Stafford playing with a messed up back. Wasn't even sure he could start the season? Did it miraculously go away?

Messed up back and one of the worst OLs in football….I don't hear about excuses for him

Bro are you for real? Rams literally have the least $ on the injury list in the league.

They got 2 guys on IR and it's Ahkello Witherspoon and a backup linebacker who has 1 start in his 4 year career.

How do you think it would be for Stafford if he was missing Puca, Adams banged up and missing all of training camp. Higbee(who is in no way as good as Kittle) out. Atwell out, Whittington out..etc.

No in the least bit comparable.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

dude was running around and moving all game, we gotta stop with the well he doesn't feel 100% so he can't be good stuff. It's the NFL and there isn't gonna be any point here they're 100%.

we shouldn't have to dig through the weeds to find any excuse possible outside of the easiest explanation in that he simply missed it.

Not all injuries are equal. In the case of a quarterback, the inability to properly transfer their weight to the front foot limits the follow-thru and subsequent ball placement. He can live with a sore left shoulder but not something that directly impacts the most important thing he does. Running isn't the same as throwing it.

QBs have to learn to live with injuries. Very few are in perfect health after a couple games. They get stepped on. They bang their hand on helmets. Their ribs get hurt. Stafford is playing with a back issue. He played several years on a bad Lions team. I'm sure he had a lot of injuries during those years.

As I said, different injuries affect players differently. Some are only an unpleasant nuisance while others are critical. In the present case, the toe injury was projected to keep him OUT for 4+ weeks. It is only logical that it has impacted his throwing motion as well as pain.

Knowing what we know about that particular injury, I just hope the reoccurrence of pain does not mean he has aggravated it to the point it will be a problem all year.

I posited earlier in this thread that if Mac had been fully healthy, Purdy would not have played. We will never know but I hope more damage has not been done.

If he can't make those throws because of a toe injury then maybe stop trying to layer it 15+ yards downfield or between 3 defenders, make the easy play? Play smart. IMO I don't think it was his foot because it wasn't just a s**t ton of bad throws.

Also It wasn't just inaccuracy, it was bad reads. That has nothing to do with your foot.

Guys are hurt all over the place and still playing at a high level. Warner was playing with a fractured ankle all last yr. Kittle is never 100% and still plays well.

it sucks that I've almost come to expect bad football when there's a 2-3 min drive left to win it from him
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