QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Afrikan:
It all started when Kyle f**ked up when he went back to injured Jimmy, after Trey helped keep us in the playoffs in 2021 season. Should have rode the "hot hand"... used that as an opportunity to move on from your inconsistent tease in Jimmy G. That last game of the season versus the Rams. Hell Jimmy did everything he could to lose us that game... careless turnovers TWICE late in the game I believe... but our defense hanged in there and Jimmy kept getting chances and we pulled off the win. That next week in the first playoff game.. SAME OLD s**t... Jimmy goes out of his way to help the other team with win.. other team f**ks up (Packers lol) special teams come through... and we find a way to win it. The next week SAME s**t AGAIN... Jimmy goes out of his way to help the other team win. But the Cowboys were the Cowboys... Dak was Dak... McCarthy was McCarthy... and we pulled it off. Then the Rams Championship game... we have a 10 pt lead...and multiple opportunities to put the game away, just like the previous Super Bowls, but nope!... Rams come back after constantly getting the ball back...and we lose another heart breaker.

It was obvious late that 2021 season Jimmy was garbage, injured, and careless with the ball. After Trey came in and we ACTUALLY didn't have to win a nail biter late in the game.. won comfortably... Kyle should have stuck with the kid and his confidence....like um Jim Harbaugh did with Kap!

Again this has nothing to do with Brock. But I feel that 2021 run with 2022 season with playcalling that would have protected his prise QB.... would have gave us a real idea about the QB we used the 3rd overall pick for. Not f'n preseason games with 3rd and 4th stringers.

Your initial part is where I think we win a superbowl had we drafted Mac instead of Trey. If Mac came in versus HOU and plays the way he did his rookie year i think Kyle rolls with Mac rest of the way.

Trey wasn't as good as people remember in that HOU game. That said, in hindsight he would have been better than a hurt Jimmy.

I want to say would have been nice to try and get a spark in that NFCCG. I also understand why you wouldn't.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Not just a bad throw, but a bad decision. Had the open checkdown and it was 1st and 10. Another example of him trying to do too much.

I definitely think he was hurt yesterday. I think his accuracy is overrated by his biggest fans, but his placement yesterday was abysmal. Definitely a lack of precision you don't normally see from him, and that is more than likely the result of his injury.

The turnovers have been a continuing issue and I don't think they were injury related. Bad decisions, reckless with the ball etc. He really needs to reel it in. Unfortunately it's been a part of his DNA going back to college.

I'm seeing a contradiction in the two bolded statements SmokeyJoe. Or perhaps I am reading them wrong.
Help me sort of get what you mean. Thanks.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by pd24:
If CMC jumps higher and makes that catch instead of it being a tip he could have got lit up because of the ball placement. He still would have get lit up on the tipped ball but the defender didn't go for a hit.

Not just a bad throw, but a bad decision. Had the open checkdown and it was 1st and 10. Another example of him trying to do too much.

I definitely think he was hurt yesterday. I think his accuracy is overrated by his biggest fans, but his placement yesterday was abysmal. Definitely a lack of precision you don't normally see from him, and that is more than likely the result of his injury.

The turnovers have been a continuing issue and I don't think they were injury related. Bad decisions, reckless with the ball etc. He really needs to reel it in. Unfortunately it's been a part of his DNA going back to college.

Looking at that play again the decision was perfectly fine. The throw had to be better but CMC also should come down with that ball. That's a TD if Brock makes a better throw or maybe even if CMC makes a clean, yes tough catch but one he's certainly capable of making.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I mean it's a legitimate point. I haven't really been in this thread in almost a year, and NY is still going on about the same nonsense. He clearly hasn't gotten over his crush on Lance.

Clearly you haven't been here for a yr if you think that's what I've been going on about.

the fact you can't get over this Lance debate is a you problem bud. I haven't talked about him….at this point it's a s**t rebuttal rooted in emotional nonsense. It just shows you're unwilling you are to keep things objective.

Objectively, Brock is not our main issue. Weapons are injured, OL is trash, CMC looks cooked and can't run the ball, WR's dropping balls and running into each other. Purdy's 2nd INT was a bad decision no doubt. The one to CMC batting it up in the air is not on him. Bourne couldn't catch a cold and had he caught that long one on 3rd down, he might have scored. Instead the next play the Jags ran the punt back for a TD. Purdy's fumble was like 2 seconds after the snap - we can't block for 2 seconds? Luke Farrell fumble. Jennings TD drop. And that's not even mentioning the defense's complete inability to generate a pass rush with Bosa out.

Yet you and others are in here crying about Purdy and expect him to overcome all of that. Same group of you, same stupid "arguments."

Purdy got touched 4 seconds after the snap when he fumbled. His eyes were downfield for a deep shot. His mind was already made up and he was about to get ready to throw it.

Sorry guys if i'm rehashing old posts, I was out last night so behind a few pages from the recent stuff.

This was the look right before Brock fumbled.

Which deep shot do you think he locked in on? Because to me it looks like after the initial PA and finishing his drop he's simply trying to step up to hit Tonges in the middle of the field. Armstead hits the ball as Brock is winding up to throw.

Go look at the play again and tell me where he's supposed to get rid of that ball quickly?

He's still finishing his drop here - no receiver expecting the ball.


Here is a snapshot of when he finally finishes his drop



I guess he can try to hit to hit Bourne deep...who we know was super reliable that day. He can try to layer the throw to Tonges over the mess in front of him but odds are the safety would close on that pretty quickly.

He tries to find a throwing lane to rifle the ball to Tonges and Armstead knocks the ball out.

This is just a bad combo of play call and execution. This whole idea that QBs can always just get the ball out quick is ridiculous. Any quick throw here is troublesome and Brock tries to make the one throw on this play which is open but gets the ball knocked out of his hands as he goes to throw it. That's not one I think you can put on him. At most you can say he should've felt that and just took off running. That I can get behind but who knows if the toe was on his mind to a degree.

Originally posted by genus49:

He's already having to start to avoid the initial rusher here. He's got his eyes downfield too so he probably doesn't see Armstead hiding behind him and Puni. When Brock avoids the first guy Armstesd is there immediately in the second wave. Putting this solely on Brock is just trying too hard imo

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

He's already having to start to avoid the initial rusher here. He's got his eyes downfield too so he probably doesn't see Armstead hiding behind him and Puni. When Brock avoids the first guy Armstesd is there immediately in the second wave. Putting this solely on Brock is just trying too hard imo

Exactly, like I said the only thing I can get behind here is that Brock should've just taken off running with that gap there. Now time was a factor but not to the point where him running would doom us to a loss and even then Armstead may have been able to tackle him before he broke through.

It's just a frustrating play for many reasons and sucks to lose because of it with Armstead being the guy to hurt us. Meanwhile the guy we signed from the Jags was nice enough to hand them a ball.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I am just a bit bummed that we gave up three firsts to go get what we thought was a generational talent with all the tangibles and measurables only to bail on him and not develop him for Kyle's Kirk Cousins project. I saw Brock come in and tear it up and I get that the locker room got behind Brock because they thought they could win it all but they didn't. They celebrated when Jimmy took over for Trey because they thought they were something they weren't. Alpha Dogs!

They felt if we can just get our playmakers the ball we can win with our talent. They didn't. They got out played they got hurt they missed games they fumbled. They couldn't separate and that's when the QB had to be able to make his own plays and make things happen off schedule and carry the team in the biggest games. The QB has to be able to break the back of a defense when we need him to. Then to add insult to injury these guys all wanted to be paid like champions when they weren't

I am pissed Kyle passed on Mahomes because he thought we could get Kirk Cousins and we didn't and Mahomes beat us twice in the Super Bowl. We knew we needed a QB when we gave Kap his walking papers so why pass on Mahomes for Cousins?

I like Brock but after passing on Mahomes and spending three firsts only to ditch him and start the last pick of the draft and then pay him franchise QB money Brock better be able to work magic like three first round draft picks are supposed to or else I'm lookin at Kyle

I am looking at wasted rosters wasted talent and ego. Brock HAS to pan out or else fans are gonna be scratching our heads as to WTH is going on?

This was a bad week for the team overall but it all goes away if we can find a way to win Thursday

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. I guess I'm about the only 49er fan who doesn't care that they didn't draft Patrick Mahomes. As I recall, he was something like the 10th rated prospect that year and a lot of talking head types thought the Chiefs made a mistake drafting him that high. But Reid proved them all wrong so kudos to him for seeing what everyone else missed.

While Kyle certainly had his blinders on when it came to Cousins, I think it's fair to say that based on Mahomes college play maybe Kyle didn't see him as a QB who could run his system the way he wanted and was having flashbacks about Robert Griffin. Who knows, the bigger tragedy of that class is that they, literally, only got one player out of it, Kittle, who ended up contributing anything to the long-term success of the team.

The Lance trade was another huge mistake. In hindsight, it would have been a lot smarter for them to stay where they were and picked Jones at 12 but again, Kyle and Lynch had their blinders on when it came to the process as opposed to the player. The moved up to three to assure they could get a QB at that spot, so they'd have a player on a rookie deal. Like Lance, Jones wouldn't have been worth the three firsts they needed to move up, but he would have been perfectly fine at #12, since he was a better fit for their system, much like Cousins was perceived to be.

But if they had picked Jones there, would they still have gotten Brock the following year? I think Brock is better than Jones overall, though Jones does throw a nice deep ball. As to how Brock "has" to perform to justify his salary. Well, I don't even know what to say about that. As literally, the last pick in the draft, he has already helped them get to two NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl. He was a potential MVP candidate and, for his first two seasons, was in the top ten of almost every metric the league uses to assess QB play. He was at the top, or in the top five, in many of those categories, oh and he also set the 49ers record for most passing yards in a season. Is he worth the $53 million a year they're going to have to pay him? Maybe not, but that seems to be the going rate for good QBs these days so what are you going to do?

Right now, the team is dealing with an ungodly number of injuries. Do you really think that if Bosa, Jennings, Kittle, Pearsall, and Brock were all available or completely healthy for that game against the Jags they would have lost? Anything's possible, of course, but I imagine they could have won that game pretty easily with their full roster. But they didn't and now they're taking an even more banged-up team into the Thursday night game against the Rams, which has now become an even more important test than the Jags was, so we'll see how the team responds. Go Niners!

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

He's already having to start to avoid the initial rusher here. He's got his eyes downfield too so he probably doesn't see Armstead hiding behind him and Puni. When Brock avoids the first guy Armstesd is there immediately in the second wave. Putting this solely on Brock is just trying too hard imo

Exactly, like I said the only thing I can get behind here is that Brock should've just taken off running with that gap there. Now time was a factor but not to the point where him running would doom us to a loss and even then Armstead may have been able to tackle him before he broke through.

It's just a frustrating play for many reasons and sucks to lose because of it with Armstead being the guy to hurt us. Meanwhile the guy we signed from the Jags was nice enough to hand them a ball.

NFL is a game of inches, best thing there Purdy could've done was just secure the ball and scramble for 10-15 yards there in that big lane. I could see why Purdy was trying to throw it though since he had Tonges(I think) wide open in the middle and it seems like whoever is up top was going to have a step on his DB too. Who knows what would've happened had the ball not get knocked out and Purdy was able to let it rip there. At the end of the day everyone needs to up their game and cut the mistakes Thursday including Purdy if we're to have a chance of winning.

What a rough go for BP. Went from Big Cak Brock to Micro Cak Brock by most fans in just 2 games lol.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

He's already having to start to avoid the initial rusher here. He's got his eyes downfield too so he probably doesn't see Armstead hiding behind him and Puni. When Brock avoids the first guy Armstesd is there immediately in the second wave. Putting this solely on Brock is just trying too hard imo

Exactly, like I said the only thing I can get behind here is that Brock should've just taken off running with that gap there. Now time was a factor but not to the point where him running would doom us to a loss and even then Armstead may have been able to tackle him before he broke through.

It's just a frustrating play for many reasons and sucks to lose because of it with Armstead being the guy to hurt us. Meanwhile the guy we signed from the Jags was nice enough to hand them a ball.

NFL is a game of inches, best thing there Purdy could've done was just secure the ball and scramble for 10-15 yards there in that big lane. I could see why Purdy was trying to throw it though since he had Tonges(I think) wide open in the middle and it seems like whoever is up top was going to have a step on his DB too. Who knows what would've happened had the ball not get knocked out and Purdy was able to let it rip there. At the end of the day everyone needs to up their game and cut the mistakes Thursday including Purdy if we're to have a chance of winning.

It's hard to see all of it broken down in snapshots. It looks like he could have let it rip to Bourne no problem. Like you said if the pocket broke down quickly, just tuck that s**t and run. It's 1st down with like 3 mins left.

When he said he wasn't gonna use his legs more this yr I thought that was the wrong approach. You're athletic and can make s**t happen on the ground. Force them to have to play certain coverages on certain downs….t's like he's trying to be something he's not (and not using what he's good at) this past yr+

Originally posted by Patton:
What a rough go for BP. Went from Big Cak Brock to Micro Cak Brock by most fans in just 2 games lol.

Can we just get avg cak Brock ROS?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Patton:
What a rough go for BP. Went from Big Cak Brock to Micro Cak Brock by most fans in just 2 games lol.

Can we just get avg cak Brock ROS?

Doubt it with this oline.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's hard to see all of it broken down in snapshots. It looks like he could have let it rip to Bourne no problem. Like you said if the pocket broke down quickly, just tuck that s**t and run. It's 1st down with like 3 mins left.

When he said he wasn't gonna use his legs more this yr I thought that was the wrong approach. You're athletic and can make s**t happen on the ground. Force them to have to play certain coverages on certain downs….t's like he's trying to be something he's not (and not using what he's good at) this past yr+

You're welcome to pull up the video of the play.

But you gotta be kidding me about letting it rip to Bourne no problem...the way that game was going would you let that rip?

And once again we don't know what he really felt like with the toe. They're not going to make excuses and they're certainly not going to claim he was playing hurt but the soreness after means that toe wasn't fully recovered and if you look at those passes his footwork is just wonky.

He ran earlier in the game and I wish he would've just made that decision to do the same but I still expect our OL to maintain their blocks, especially on a play that's not drawn up for a quick hitter.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Patton:
What a rough go for BP. Went from Big Cak Brock to Micro Cak Brock by most fans in just 2 games lol.

Can we just get avg cak Brock ROS?

Doubt it with this oline.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's hard to see all of it broken down in snapshots. It looks like he could have let it rip to Bourne no problem. Like you said if the pocket broke down quickly, just tuck that s**t and run. It's 1st down with like 3 mins left.

When he said he wasn't gonna use his legs more this yr I thought that was the wrong approach. You're athletic and can make s**t happen on the ground. Force them to have to play certain coverages on certain downs….t's like he's trying to be something he's not (and not using what he's good at) this past yr+

You're welcome to pull up the video of the play.

But you gotta be kidding me about letting it rip to Bourne no problem...the way that game was going would you let that rip?

And once again we don't know what he really felt like with the toe. They're not going to make excuses and they're certainly not going to claim he was playing hurt but the soreness after means that toe wasn't fully recovered and if you look at those passes his footwork is just wonky.

He ran earlier in the game and I wish he would've just made that decision to do the same but I still expect our OL to maintain their blocks, especially on a play that's not drawn up for a quick hitter.

Lynch said this morning that Purdy told Kyle the toe starting hurting during the night after the game. Who knows what the truth is.