QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.

Yes yolo balls that turn into TOs at horrible points in games. Did it in college and it's starting to poke through the past year +

lol you got nothing objective to counter my point, so you go straight to me, typical and weak Have a convo about what we're talking about.

when is he not hurt? If he's not hurt, it's the weather or everyone else around him not being perfect. First couple weeks this OL was top 3 in pass blocking according to PFF and ESPN. I'm not saying they're great, but he's making enough problems all on his own.

look I don't think he sucks, he isn't good enough to overcome a bunch of TOs. Get back to the basics, take what they give you and move the ball. Those big plays will happen, stop forcing it.

There's a reason you chose to not quote the rest of our conversation here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You brought up Mahomes I didn't, I'm not gonna toss out a couple stats and pretend Brock is Mahomes, that's silly and simply not reality we should all know that.

I want him to press it when it makes sense, there's nothing wrong with an easy check down on 1st or 2nd down. Positive yards, less time for bad s**t to happen imo. This team can't afford to lose theTO battle and win games.

I could be wrong but I think CMC is one of like 4 or 5 players with 100+ scrimmage yards in every game this yr. He's going whatever he can to help this time win.

I agree with the bolded part. He needs to understand there is a time for hero ball and it's not when you're in 1st and 10 on your own 20. The problem of course is we have the ability to see the whole field. His vision is clouded as he talked about. When you're relying on guys to be at a certain spot and they're not there things get ugly.

When you have a game like yesterday where the drops, fumbles or receivers running into each other on key downs it doesn't leave a lot of room for error for a QB who isn't on the levels of Mahomes, Allen, Lamar. Those guys can quickly pick up chunks of yards when the pocket breaks down vs trying to force something in there. I do wonder how the game would've gone if he didn't have a toe injury. It's just not the same thrower we saw vs Seattle, especially early on in that game.

CMC is also getting fed like something crazy which btw as I've said before not a great recipe for success in the passing game. Don't know another offense worth anything which has a RB as the main target.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes yolo balls that turn into TOs at horrible points in games. Did it in college and it's starting to poke through the past year +

lol you got nothing objective to counter my point, so you go straight to me, typical and weak Have a convo about what we're talking about.

when is he not hurt? If he's not hurt, it's the weather or everyone else around him not being perfect. First couple weeks this OL was top 3 in pass blocking according to PFF and ESPN. I'm not saying they're great, but he's making enough problems all on his own.

look I don't think he sucks, he isn't good enough to overcome a bunch of TOs. Get back to the basics, take what they give you and move the ball. Those big plays will happen, stop forcing it.

If Bourne catches that pass yesterday he may be good enough. If Jennings catches the TD pass, he may be good enough. If CMC catches that pass or at least doesn't bat it up in the air for a pick, he may be good enough.

That's the issue - it was a team fail yesterday and while Brock was a big reason for that fail some people are being way over board with the criticism.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If Brock is now going to also play poorly AND complain about minor physical stuff, the 49ers need to maybe consider moving on from Brock. Maybe trade him and commit to Max as your QB1 going forward. Brock's height is an issue so it may be for the best.

You're right. Let's trade him.

Originally posted by krizay:
While a lot of the bolded is true, it has nothing to do with NY's take on Purdy. Everything he's saying is true. Whether he liked him or not. I love me some Purdy but NY is dead on.

I'm very familiar with my takes being discounted because of draft preference. People can give their honest takes and it not having to do with their preferences. Though sometimes it does highlight exactly what one felt initially about that person. Still doesn't mean their take should be discounted

It's silly man

Originally posted by Furlow:
"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.

It was obvious BP was playing injured and it affected his play but ppl don't care about that cause they have no common sense and just like to hear themselves talk about whatever empty or repetitive bs over and over lol...kinda like Sportscenter does. Nevermind dropped balls by "receivers" lol or any other factors that affected the game, let's talk about Purdy's weak arm, ints and who should be his replacement soon lol.

Originally posted by genus49:
If Bourne catches that pass yesterday he may be good enough. If Jennings catches the TD pass, he may be good enough. If CMC catches that pass or at least doesn't bat it up in the air for a pick, he may be good enough.

That's the issue - it was a team fail yesterday and while Brock was a big reason for that fail some people are being way over board with the criticism.

Yeah but he wasn't and they lost "if" doesn't really mean much…this team isn't good enough to overcome all those TOs and subpar QB play. I'm not saying Brock is the only reason they lost the game, I'm saying his play needs to be BETTER for them to win games going forward. We can't lose turn over battles and still expect a W, we can't keep kicking FGs and expect to win games. The margin of error isn't what it once was.

We're as close to being 4-0 as we are being 0-4

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Furlow:
"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.

It was obvious BP was playing injured and it affected his play but ppl don't care about that cause they have no common sense and just like to hear themselves talk about whatever empty or repetitive bs over and over lol...kinda like Sportscenter does. Nevermind dropped balls by "receivers" lol or any other factors that affected the game, let's talk about Purdy's weak arm, ints and who should be his replacement soon lol.

We had people in here saying it's the worst QB performance they've seen.

Some people just want to b***h and don't want to hear anyone try to rationalize what happened.

Personally my bigger concern is Brock's ability to stay healthy at this point. I fully expect him to get to play good football once he's healthy and we get consistency on the field. Like I said it doesn't have to be all Pros everywhere - just guys he's familiar with and has good chemistry with.

Originally posted by Montana:
It was obvious BP was playing injured and it affected his play but ppl don't care about that cause they have no common sense and just like to hear themselves talk about whatever empty or repetitive bs over and over lol...kinda like Sportscenter does. Nevermind dropped balls by "receivers" lol or any other factors that affected the game, let's talk about Purdy's weak arm, ints and who should be his replacement soon lol.

It's always excuses for you eh? When is he not "dinged up"? If it's not 75 and sunny, then you blame the weather. Now it's just dropped balls, never mind the ones that were off target or poor reads.

he's got 34 TOs in 1,142 passing attempts. Do you think that's good? No one is saying he needs to be benched or he blows. He does need to play better than he has the past yr and change if this team is gonna do anything. He got the big contract, now go play like it. Step it up in big moments, don't fumble the ball… Thats all any SF fan wants.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
If Bourne catches that pass yesterday he may be good enough. If Jennings catches the TD pass, he may be good enough. If CMC catches that pass or at least doesn't bat it up in the air for a pick, he may be good enough.

That's the issue - it was a team fail yesterday and while Brock was a big reason for that fail some people are being way over board with the criticism.

Yeah but he wasn't and they lost "if" doesn't really mean much…this team isn't good enough to overcome all those TOs and subpar QB play. I'm not saying Brock is the only reason they lost the game, I'm saying his play needs to be BETTER for them to win games going forward. We can't lose turn over battles and still expect a W, we can't keep kicking FGs and expect to win games. The margin of error isn't what it once was.

We're as close to being 4-0 as we are being 0-4

Correct. Guys dropping key passes. Guys running into each other on 4th down. Guys unable to make tough catches they get paid to make don't help those margins either.

Originally posted by genus49:
We had people in here saying it's the worst QB performance they've seen.

Some people just want to b***h and don't want to hear anyone try to rationalize what happened.

Personally my bigger concern is Brock's ability to stay healthy at this point. I fully expect him to get to play good football once he's healthy and we get consistency on the field. Like I said it doesn't have to be all Pros everywhere - just guys he's familiar with and has good chemistry with.

Who said it was the worst performance ever? That's being dramatic.

I could say the same thing as well (in bold) that folks are trying to point blame on anything and everything but the QB….Of course it's not all him, he is the QB though. He makes all the money and he looked subpar yesterday and overall the past year or so it hasn't been amazing elite football.

I do think it's really hard for fans to take off their 49er hats and just look at everything objectively. If Brock played on the Jags the past yr or so and did exactly what he did here, no way are people defending him as hard.

it's should be acceptable to acknowledge when a QB puts up a stinker (or has underperformed for a little bit), he did yesterday and hopefully he learns from it and improves. I think he can and will.

Originally posted by genus49:
Correct. Guys dropping key passes. Guys running into each other on 4th down. Guys unable to make tough catches they get paid to make don't help those margins either.

Brock sailing balls over their heads, missing reads having bad mechanic, tossing INts/fumbles etc etc. you're massively paid QB should be making everything better, not being part of the problem though.

If CMC jumps higher and makes that catch instead of it being a tip he could have got lit up because of the ball placement. He still would have get lit up on the tipped ball but the defender didn't go for a hit.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Montana:
It was obvious BP was playing injured and it affected his play but ppl don't care about that cause they have no common sense and just like to hear themselves talk about whatever empty or repetitive bs over and over lol...kinda like Sportscenter does. Nevermind dropped balls by "receivers" lol or any other factors that affected the game, let's talk about Purdy's weak arm, ints and who should be his replacement soon lol.

It's always excuses for you eh? When is he not "dinged up"? If it's not 75 and sunny, then you blame the weather. Now it's just dropped balls, never mind the ones that were off target or poor reads.

he's got 34 TOs in 1,142 passing attempts. Do you think that's good? No one is saying he needs to be benched or he blows. He does need to play better than he has the past yr and change if this team is gonna do anything. He got the big contract, now go play like it. Step it up in big moments, don't fumble the ball… Thats all any SF fan wants.

NY you did the same thing(as did I) when making excuses for why Lance struggled vs the Bears in that rain game.

Can you with a straight face claim that Purdy was likely fully healthy out there yesterday? Would you say Purdy is the type of QB who can get away with sloppy mechanics?

Why are you acting shocked that he didn't play well in those situations? We know what Brock is. He may not need everything to be perfect but if he's not 100% like he clearly wasn't and his mechanics are not his usual then I don't think it's crazy to expect guys who are healthy to step up and catch the ball.

We had our WR1 out. WR2 and WR3 banged up going into the game, banged up in the game. WR4 just came off suspension list and played 38% of the snaps. WR5 and WR6 are injured. Bourne who we signed off the street after week 1 barely had any time to practice with Purdy and the guy played 2nd most snaps at WR behind Jennings.

Running game getting 3.2 YPC from the RBs and special teams once again comes through with a punt return TD allowed.

Sure it would be great if Purdy could overcome all of that on his own. He's not that type of QB but if your expectation is that he should be able to overcome situations like that then I think your expectations are really unrealistic.

I don't like seeing him turn the ball over either. Any turnover hurts the ability to win games but it happens and the team needs to rally and make up for it. They didn't and unfortunately Purdy couldn't battle out of it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
We had people in here saying it's the worst QB performance they've seen.

Some people just want to b***h and don't want to hear anyone try to rationalize what happened.

Personally my bigger concern is Brock's ability to stay healthy at this point. I fully expect him to get to play good football once he's healthy and we get consistency on the field. Like I said it doesn't have to be all Pros everywhere - just guys he's familiar with and has good chemistry with.

Who said it was the worst performance ever? That's being dramatic.

I could say the same thing as well (in bold) that folks are trying to point blame on anything and everything but the QB….Of course it's not all him, he is the QB though. He makes all the money and he looked subpar yesterday and overall the past year or so it hasn't been amazing elite football.

I do think it's really hard for fans to take off their 49er hats and just look at everything objectively. If Brock played on the Jags the past yr or so and did exactly what he did here, no way are people defending him as hard.

it's should be acceptable to acknowledge when a QB puts up a stinker (or has underperformed for a little bit), he did yesterday and hopefully he learns from it and improves. I think he can and will.

Go back to some of the comments right after the game. It's natural for fans to find reasons for optimism with certain players. You've done it yourself as I mentioned above with Lance, and like I said...so did I.

And once again his cap hit this season is $9 million. How many starting QBs have salaries that low this year?