QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by irief:

I used to be a fan of Brock's, but we've seen this movie before and it doesn't have a happy ending.

This is the risk teams make when they sign a QB to a big long term contract out of fear he'll enter free agency. Several teams do this in order to lock up their QB but after one or two seasons it's not always easy to make an accurtate assessment of the player's ability. It's a trend in ther NFL and it can cost the team dearly if they make the wrong decision.

It's not the risk fans make it out to be though. His contract isn't the reason this team has regressed. Find me the team that just buys their eliteness because they have a cheap starter. It doesn't happen. It's fantasy land

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by irief:
I used to be a fan of Brock's, but we've seen this movie before and it doesn't have a happy ending.

This is the risk teams make when they sign a QB to a big long term contract out of fear he'll enter free agency. Several teams do this in order to lock up their QB but after one or two seasons it's not always easy to make an accurtate assessment of the player's ability. It's a trend in ther NFL and it can cost the team dearly if they make the wrong decision.

It's not the risk fans make it out to be though. His contract isn't the reason this team has regressed. Find me the team that just buys their eliteness because they have a cheap starter. It doesn't happen. It's fantasy land

I didn't say that was why the team has regressed. I'm not sure they have regressed. They're just missing a lot of their weapons on offense. My comment was more about teams rushing to give big contracts to QBs still on their rookie deal before they've really proved their value. I just don't believe one good season makes a franchise QB. I've seen way to many players come back down to earth after having a good season. Unfortunately teams are all so desperate to find their franchise QB that they often reach in the draft or over value the guy they have.

If Brock does not play well this year and the 49ers want to move on from him, is there a way we can do this based on the contract that was created?

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If Brock does not play well this year and the 49ers want to move on from him, is there a way we can do this based on the contract that was created?

Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

Originally posted by pd24:
Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

But we can trade him to another team if they are willing to take on his contract right?

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If Brock does not play well this year and the 49ers want to move on from him, is there a way we can do this based on the contract that was created?

Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

I just looked up the details and it looks like 2031 before his contract become void. His cap number is about $25 mil next season and then it really starts to ramp up. $31 mil, 58 mil, 73 mil and 64 mil in the following years. I'm sure there will be some restreucturing but the money becomes fully guaranteed in 2026.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:

Originally posted by pd24:
Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

But we can trade him to another team if they are willing to take on his contract right?

Nobody is taking that unless he plays great. If he is playing great we won't trade him. Lol

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If Brock does not play well this year and the 49ers want to move on from him, is there a way we can do this based on the contract that was created?

Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

I just looked up the details and it looks like 2031 before his contract become void. His cap number is about $25 mil next season and then it really starts to ramp up. $31 mil, 58 mil, 73 mil and 64 mil in the following years. I'm sure there will be some restreucturing but the money becomes fully guaranteed in 2026.

Looks like it. But 2030 is like a 7.5 million cap hit, so they can absorb that, but if they are riding with him until then, might as well keep him for another season. Lol

Seriously? We're talking about getting rid of Brock already?

My god this fanbase has lost it

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by irief:

I used to be a fan of Brock's, but we've seen this movie before and it doesn't have a happy ending.

This is the risk teams make when they sign a QB to a big long term contract out of fear he'll enter free agency. Several teams do this in order to lock up their QB but after one or two seasons it's not always easy to make an accurtate assessment of the player's ability. It's a trend in ther NFL and it can cost the team dearly if they make the wrong decision.

It's not the risk fans make it out to be though. His contract isn't the reason this team has regressed. Find me the team that just buys their eliteness because they have a cheap starter. It doesn't happen. It's fantasy land

I didn't say that was why the team has regressed. I'm not sure they have regressed. They're just missing a lot of their weapons on offense. My comment was more about teams rushing to give big contracts to QBs still on their rookie deal before they've really proved their value. I just don't believe one good season makes a franchise QB. I've seen way to many players come back down to earth after having a good season. Unfortunately teams are all so desperate to find their franchise QB that they often reach in the draft or over value the guy they have.

Nobody's in a rush, you at least have to prove something to get paid. It's not like you walk into the league with mega contracts anymore like Sam Bradford or Alex Smith

The way I see it is he did his part. He literally carried that loaded team on his back in the NFCCG. They don't go to the SB if it's not for him, and they just continued to s**t themselves and the coach didn't even know the rules. They f**ked it all up with a dude that played lights out on 900k. Don't f**k him over again by not paying him

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If Brock does not play well this year and the 49ers want to move on from him, is there a way we can do this based on the contract that was created?

Im no cap expert but I don't think so until like 2030. Pretty big dead cap hits until then.

I just looked up the details and it looks like 2031 before his contract become void. His cap number is about $25 mil next season and then it really starts to ramp up. $31 mil, 58 mil, 73 mil and 64 mil in the following years. I'm sure there will be some restreucturing but the money becomes fully guaranteed in 2026.

Looks like it. But 2030 is like a 7.5 million cap hit, so they can absorb that, but if they are riding with him until then, might as well keep him for another season. Lol

2030 is a $65 mil cap hit. At least that's how it stands now but I'm sure they'll renegotiate.

At the end of the day Brock is the bed we made and we will lay in it. He's under contract and we will hold him to it. Game this Thursday so let's play ball!🏈

Not really fair to judge him until he's at least 100% healthy, preferably 110% healthy. We might also want to surround him with some better receivers than just Skyy Moore and Luke Farrell.

The toe injury clearly really affected him yesterday. Not only will a toe injury mess with throwing mechanics, it can also affect decision making as nobody is capable of making sound decisions when their toe really hurts. That's just basic science.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Seriously? We're talking about getting rid of Brock already?

My god this fanbase has lost it

Yeah its sad. Aside from a couple bad throws he played decent yesterday considering his whole supporting cast he's used to is out. Not to mention he has no run game to lean on right now.

Not too many QB's can overcome all that. Maybe 3 or 4 in the league right now. But some of our fanbase think they are a dime a dozen to come by.

Originally posted by genus49:
He did not play this way in week 1. His accuracy and ball placement was excellent week 1. We can call out the bad without extreme takes.

And NY that goes for you too, no need for hyperbole. Brock doesn't need a perfect OL or 75 and sunny. Guys need to make plays out there. It goes both ways...does every pass have to be perfect to be caught? Is it too much to ask that a ball not be bobbled up in the air so the defenders can grab it? Farrell fumbling it pretty sure had nothing to do with Purdy. Neither did Bourne dropping a huge 3rd down conversion and possible TD throw or the punt return TD allowed right after that play.

Purdy played poorly. I don't know if his injury was an issue but I do know there were plenty of sloppy mistakes by the players not named Purdy. And we're somehow shocked that QBs with inconsistent play around them aren't dominant? Bourne had 3 drops all on his own. A WR who Brock has barely practiced with and he's playing 2nd most WR reps in the game.

You take this game and flush it. Much bigger fish to fry now and arguably a bigger challenge, especially if Pearsall can't play. Everyone has to play better if we want to win Thursday and it definitely starts with Brock but no he doesn't need perfection...but whoever is out there also has to make plays for their QB. It won't always be pretty but guys get paid for a reason. If the play is there to make, make it or you're not beating good teams. We no longer have the roster to simply dog walk everyone.

hyperbole? This stems from last season all the same. Constant "well this is why he played bad" because of the weather, the OL, the players around him, he's "hurt" etc etc. at some point we gotta stop finger pointing at everything else besides the QB. Brock has gotta play better in these types of situations.

34 TOs in 1142 passing attempts is not good dude.

I expect more from our $250M QB than I do with Bourne who was cut or Farrell a backup level TE.

it's not even just this game, I'm fine with flushing it and moving on….Look objectively we all think Brock is a good QB and of course he's better than Jones, BUT is he $240M better? The expectations are WAY higher for him going forward and watching him toss s**tty INTs week to week isn't a fun way to spend my Sundays lol.