QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The effect it has on other players and their demands is what bothers me the most. Bosa's cap figure is scheduled to rise above $40 million in 2026. I'm sure they'll try and rework that number but what if he says no way. I want mine too and he would be justified. He's as important to the defense as Purdy is to the offense. Maybe more so. If I was a player busting my butt out there to protect Purdy or support him in any way I would sure as heck want to be paid better. Not $50 million but certainly more than $2 or $3 million.

Thats the nature of the game. QBs just get paid more. I think the players get that. You're not going anywhere without a QB. Look at the Steelers. Talented every season but they've been adrift without Big Ben. Purdy isn't Mahomes but he's as good as or better than QBs like Dak, Goff, Lawrence and Tua who are all earning similar or higher salaries.

The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more. It's not true that it won't affect furure rosters. Teams can't afford to pay everyone what they want.Teams are forced to make decisions based on money demands and not performance. The Niners made a decision with Buckner. They allowed Armstrong to walk away. Same with Greenlaw. Hufanga. They traded Deebo because thye couldn't afford 2 WRs making big money when they knew they were going to pay Brock and Kittle.

This isn't the Eddie D days when you could sign and keep anyone you wanted. The Niners haven't won a SB since 1995. They've had talent but always something was missing. Depth is often an issue in a league where injuries are so common. The Niners aren't alone in this. It's a league wid eissue that needs to be addressed during the next player/owners meetings.

WR Ja'maar Chase and DE Miles Garrett are both over $40M average I think, and I think there is a DB over $30.

In general the top contracts are QB, but after them DE, LT, WR are the next 3 highest paid groups at the top.

CBs, DTs, TEs, and RBs to me are too often overpaid at the top (except QBs ... Dak's contract is insane).

IOL have the lowest number of "big" contracts I think.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more. It's not true that it won't affect furure rosters. Teams can't afford to pay everyone what they want.Teams are forced to make decisions based on money demands and not performance. The Niners made a decision with Buckner. They allowed Armstrong to walk away. Same with Greenlaw. Hufanga. They traded Deebo because thye couldn't afford 2 WRs making big money when they knew they were going to pay Brock and Kittle.

This isn't the Eddie D days when you could sign and keep anyone you wanted. The Niners haven't won a SB since 1995. They've had talent but always something was missing. Depth is often an issue in a league where injuries are so common. The Niners aren't alone in this. It's a league wid eissue that needs to be addressed during the next player/owners meetings.

Lol what? A team just won the sb that was paying their QB elite $$. A team won the 2 Superbowls before that paying QB elite money. The team before that was paying a QB top dollar.

The niners failed to win the sb because of poor coaching decisions and poor performances in key games, not because of the salary cap

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol what? A team just won the sb that was paying their QB elite $$. A team won the 2 Superbowls before that paying QB elite money. The team before that was paying a QB top dollar.

The niners failed to win the sb because of poor coaching decisions and poor performances in key games, not because of the salary cap

A $13.56M cap hit in 2024 right?

Woudlnt call that an elite pay burden on the team.

Originally posted by random49er:
A $13.56M cap hit in 2024 right?

Woudlnt call that an elite pay burden on the team.

Its a burden in that they can't ignore what the impact is going to be in future years. The same as the 49ers have to plan for Purdy's inevitably spike in pay two or three years down the road.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more. It's not true that it won't affect furure rosters. Teams can't afford to pay everyone what they want.Teams are forced to make decisions based on money demands and not performance. The Niners made a decision with Buckner. They allowed Armstrong to walk away. Same with Greenlaw. Hufanga. They traded Deebo because thye couldn't afford 2 WRs making big money when they knew they were going to pay Brock and Kittle.

This isn't the Eddie D days when you could sign and keep anyone you wanted. The Niners haven't won a SB since 1995. They've had talent but always something was missing. Depth is often an issue in a league where injuries are so common. The Niners aren't alone in this. It's a league wid eissue that needs to be addressed during the next player/owners meetings.

That's been the case since the salary cap was instituted. You can't possibly pay everyone so its imperative that you make good draft picks to continue replenishing the team with low cost young players and have a steady pipeline of talent coming through to replace the guys that are leaving while holding on to your key core of players.

Paying a QB doesn't stop you from competing or even winning a SB, it just means you have less margin for error overall and need to do an especially good job of filling up the roister with draft picks.

Originally posted by random49er:
A $13.56M cap hit in 2024 right?

Woudlnt call that an elite pay burden on the team.

Why would it be different for us?? My point was teams (in fact exclusively teams this decade!) have won Superbowls paying QBs top end money (not talking cap hits)

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The effect it has on other players and their demands is what bothers me the most. Bosa's cap figure is scheduled to rise above $40 million in 2026. I'm sure they'll try and rework that number but what if he says no way. I want mine too and he would be justified. He's as important to the defense as Purdy is to the offense. Maybe more so. If I was a player busting my butt out there to protect Purdy or support him in any way I would sure as heck want to be paid better. Not $50 million but certainly more than $2 or $3 million.

Thats the nature of the game. QBs just get paid more. I think the players get that. You're not going anywhere without a QB. Look at the Steelers. Talented every season but they've been adrift without Big Ben. Purdy isn't Mahomes but he's as good as or better than QBs like Dak, Goff, Lawrence and Tua who are all earning similar or higher salaries.

The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more…

Welcome to inflation and cap increase. I feel like you're kinda yelling at the clouds.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The effect it has on other players and their demands is what bothers me the most. Bosa's cap figure is scheduled to rise above $40 million in 2026. I'm sure they'll try and rework that number but what if he says no way. I want mine too and he would be justified. He's as important to the defense as Purdy is to the offense. Maybe more so. If I was a player busting my butt out there to protect Purdy or support him in any way I would sure as heck want to be paid better. Not $50 million but certainly more than $2 or $3 million.

Thats the nature of the game. QBs just get paid more. I think the players get that. You're not going anywhere without a QB. Look at the Steelers. Talented every season but they've been adrift without Big Ben. Purdy isn't Mahomes but he's as good as or better than QBs like Dak, Goff, Lawrence and Tua who are all earning similar or higher salaries.

The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more. It's not true that it won't affect furure rosters. Teams can't afford to pay everyone what they want.Teams are forced to make decisions based on money demands and not performance. The Niners made a decision with Buckner. They allowed Armstrong to walk away. Same with Greenlaw. Hufanga. They traded Deebo because thye couldn't afford 2 WRs making big money when they knew they were going to pay Brock and Kittle.

This isn't the Eddie D days when you could sign and keep anyone you wanted. The Niners haven't won a SB since 1995. They've had talent but always something was missing. Depth is often an issue in a league where injuries are so common. The Niners aren't alone in this. It's a league wid eissue that needs to be addressed during the next player/owners meetings.

The league generated $23b in revenue in 2024. By far the most by any professional sports league on the planet. The players are entitled to their share of the pie as long as the league keeps growing financially. Otherwise that money will just be pocketed by the greedy owners and we will see more strikes like we had in the 80s.

A $53 million per year QB and no investment in the offensive line. You don't see this on any of the other $50 million + QB teams. They all build up their line when they do that. But not this team. This team can be very irrational sometimes. If you think he is your guy and pay him that much you have to build a brick wall offensive line. 1) It will fail if you don't. 2) He could get hurt. 3) He will under perform and be blamed. But it's really a lot to do with the offensive line.

Make it make sense. If you want to put this much into a QB.

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
The league generated $23b in revenue in 2024. By far the most by any professional sports league on the planet. The players are entitled to their share of the pie as long as the league keeps growing financially. Otherwise that money will just be pocketed by the greedy owners and we will see more strikes like we had in the 80s.

I don't see anyone saying players should not be paid their share. In fact I see more people saying the players should be paid more overall.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
A $53 million per year QB and no investment in the offensive line. You don't see this on any of the other $50 million + QB teams. They all build up their line when they do that. But not this team. This team can be very irrational sometimes. If you think he is your guy and pay him that much you have to build a brick wall offensive line. 1) It will fail if you don't. 2) He could get hurt. 3) He will under perform and be blamed. But it's really a lot to do with the offensive line.

Make it make sense. If you want to put this much into a QB.

Now do KC

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
A $53 million per year QB and no investment in the offensive line. You don't see this on any of the other $50 million + QB teams. They all build up their line when they do that. But not this team. This team can be very irrational sometimes. If you think he is your guy and pay him that much you have to build a brick wall offensive line. 1) It will fail if you don't. 2) He could get hurt. 3) He will under perform and be blamed. But it's really a lot to do with the offensive line.

Make it make sense. If you want to put this much into a QB.

Now do KC

You could make the argument they actually TRY with their offensive line. A miss does not count as far as trying. Whether it be draft or FA. Also the have the best in the game in Mahomes. Who can make up for some deficiencies. More so than most other QB's. By a long shot. So I don't think that can be compared. I like Brock and have supported him more than most. But he's not Mahomes.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by random49er:
A $13.56M cap hit in 2024 right?

Woudlnt call that an elite pay burden on the team.

Its a burden in that they can't ignore what the impact is going to be in future years. The same as the 49ers have to plan for Purdy's inevitably spike in pay two or three years down the road.

sure. But the OP was balancing winning with what has been spent @ the QB position (hence,..the reference to who won the SB).

Being cramped up down the road had zero impact on their ability to win the 2024 Season's SB.

When people complain,...they aren't complaining about the brief period of light cap hits. We'll see what ours even are with Brock, as the details have yet to come out.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The effect it has on other players and their demands is what bothers me the most. Bosa's cap figure is scheduled to rise above $40 million in 2026. I'm sure they'll try and rework that number but what if he says no way. I want mine too and he would be justified. He's as important to the defense as Purdy is to the offense. Maybe more so. If I was a player busting my butt out there to protect Purdy or support him in any way I would sure as heck want to be paid better. Not $50 million but certainly more than $2 or $3 million.

Thats the nature of the game. QBs just get paid more. I think the players get that. You're not going anywhere without a QB. Look at the Steelers. Talented every season but they've been adrift without Big Ben. Purdy isn't Mahomes but he's as good as or better than QBs like Dak, Goff, Lawrence and Tua who are all earning similar or higher salaries.

The fact iswe're seeing players that aren't QBs asking for mre money too. Edge rushers, WRs, Tackles and TEs are allbeing paid more. It's not true that it won't affect furure rosters. Teams can't afford to pay everyone what they want.Teams are forced to make decisions based on money demands and not performance. The Niners made a decision with Buckner. They allowed Armstrong to walk away. Same with Greenlaw. Hufanga. They traded Deebo because thye couldn't afford 2 WRs making big money when they knew they were going to pay Brock and Kittle.

This isn't the Eddie D days when you could sign and keep anyone you wanted. The Niners haven't won a SB since 1995. They've had talent but always something was missing. Depth is often an issue in a league where injuries are so common. The Niners aren't alone in this. It's a league wid eissue that needs to be addressed during the next player/owners meetings.

WR Ja'maar Chase and DE Miles Garrett are both over $40M average I think, and I think there is a DB over $30.

In general the top contracts are QB, but after them DE, LT, WR are the next 3 highest paid groups at the top.

CBs, DTs, TEs, and RBs to me are too often overpaid at the top (except QBs ... Dak's contract is insane).

IOL have the lowest number of "big" contracts I think.

I think if Brock stays highly paid but second tier we can still afford other good players, just not #1 paid in their respective positions. We had the top RB, DE, and near top WR.
My theory is the top tier QBs can maybe afford one other top paid position. After that they need draft picks and to fill in with experienced former star FAs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean the QB has gotta show up in those spots. Coaches can only do so much, they're not playing or throwing the football.

it's something Brock's gotta improve upon that comes with more experience and time.

Folks acting like he's not on the Jared Goff level as far as cash goes are being ridiculous though.

He's shown up plenty when the coaching hasn't been there. There are times where his aggressiveness has gotten us bit but in situations like being talked about aggressiveness is part of the game. We've seen guys throw the ball away on 4th down…

The biggest issue is the offense is built to be balanced and that protects our OL. When teams know we have to throw the ball it becomes easier to expose the issues we have with pass protection. You may be able to argue it's still on Brock to make better decisions, throws and not risk it unless it is 3rd/4th down situations but that's asking a lot when we all know the deficiencies with pass protection have been there for a while.