QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's. Fumbles will always be charged to the player holding the ball and rightfully so.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I agree. He had some solid talent at RB and WR - some are in the nfl, but the talent disparity after those guys was awful. It's why it's so impressive that he won as many games as he did, it's not an easy task to constantly pull off upsets.

Talent wise they were usually overmatched. They've had some good RBs there, some decent TEs and WEs, the OL was often a liability and against much better teams, Purdy pretty much had to go nuts in order for the Cyclones to stay in the game.

Appreciate all the college context, fellas.

No problem, NC! The biggest knock I have come across, albeit I haven't done a ton of in-depth research, is that he would try to "make a play" and try to make up for the lack of talent on his team. This would result in him making some really big blunders and costing games.

the interesting part is that he was a core reason they were winning games and competing in games in the first place, he just didn't have the overall help to get his team elevated to the next level, so he would take it upon himself and it wasn't always pretty.

i think it's reassuring that he keeps bringing up how he doesn't have to carry the team, not everything is on his shoulders.

Makes sense. A young player, esp. a QB, can become prone to pressing. Like you said, some good came from it but so too are the game lessons. My guess is Griese was all over this because since his first media outtake as a starter, he's emphasized not playing hero ball and just being a point guard or conductor. He's learning to play within himself, relax, and just use his weapons. I saw a similar mindset with Jimmy the second CMC got here. Just relaxed knowing he's always got a legit outlet and forced way less traffic balls.

I love this kids mental makeup. He's already there.

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Shanahan seemed to be excited when describing Purdy as a gunslinger and this is one good example. Purdy doesn't hesitate to sling it when he sees a hole. I think it's a good thing. I think what coach Shanahan was trying to say was he'll go with a decisive QB than a QB who will just wait until the receiver is absolutely open which makes him prone for sacks. In NFL, you should be willing to take the risk and if you're good and decisive, you'll get positive results more often than not.

I get the same impression from Shanahan. It has always seemed like he envisions some big percentage of his play calls as being explosive or potential house-calls when run correctly (and watching JonnyDel's videos I am really beginning to understand why). Purdy clearly misses things at times, but he sees a chunk of it and can come back within the same game and make plays he didn't earlier. As long as growth continues toward implementation of his vision, these have to be hopeful and satisfying times for Shanahan.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's.

Niner Talk told me QB WINS are team stat so i guess TOWPs are too.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's.

Niner Talk told me QB WINS are team stat so i guess TOWPs are too.

Is this a bad time for a "Yo Mamma" joke?

Originally posted by tankle104:
Does anyone have the data on how many sacks Purdy has avoided? The line has been playing well but Purdy seems to have done a great job avoiding sacks/throwing it away.

i find this interesting because his mobility in the pocket has saved us a lot of negative plays, even if the play ended up 0 net positive yards

This seems very true. We were just giving the OL PP credit but I'd be remissed not to also point out we've have quite a few unblocked defenders instantly in the backfield and Brock has done a great job of his pocket feel, vision and using his instincts to get away, even if just to throw it away in the end.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Purdy's pass that bounced off Kittle's chest in the end zone. Purdy zipped it between two defenders to hit Kittle.
is it a Turnover worthy play, or Touchdown worthy play… or both?

I was thinking of the TOWP as an analysis of incompletions, but plays like this really could be both. A tick under each for one incompletion, which kinda confuses the data a little for me. Perhaps not, and I'm overthinking,

I would not consider that a TWP considering it hit Kittle in the shoulder pads.

What does PFF say about it?

I likely missed it, but all this discussion about what PFF considers to be an almost INT seems useless unless it is concretely defined.

https://www.pff.com/news/bet-pff-turnover-worthy-plays-bet-nfl-player-props#:~:text=Since%202006%2C%20PFF%20has%20tracked%20a%20statistic%20called,the%20pocket%2C%20throws%20that%20are%20interceptable%20and%20interceptions.

Thanks. This is what I see:

Since 2006, PFF has tracked a statistic called "turnover-worthy plays," which include fumbles in the pocket, throws that are interceptable and interceptions.

I believe that "throws that are interceptable" has a level of subjectivity to it.

Originally posted by Midbay:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's.

Niner Talk told me QB WINS are team stat so i guess TOWPs are too.

Is this a bad time for a "Yo Mamma" joke?

There's no such thing as a bad time for a Yo Mama joke.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Purdy's pass that bounced off Kittle's chest in the end zone. Purdy zipped it between two defenders to hit Kittle.
is it a Turnover worthy play, or Touchdown worthy play… or both?

I was thinking of the TOWP as an analysis of incompletions, but plays like this really could be both. A tick under each for one incompletion, which kinda confuses the data a little for me. Perhaps not, and I'm overthinking,

I would not consider that a TWP considering it hit Kittle in the shoulder pads.

Agreed. The near pick at the end of the game when targeting Aiyuk was a TWP to me. Not this one.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:

so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's. Fumbles will always be charged to the player holding the ball and rightfully so.

Fumbles are an actual outcome recorded as a statistic.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's.

Niner Talk told me QB WINS are team stat so i guess TOWPs are too.

Wtf are QB wins? Wins are a team stat.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by boast:
so teams with poor OLs will have a greater influence on a QBs TOWP percentage because the QB is constantly getting pressured and create more chances for getting the ball loose.

You could say the same thing about INT's. Fumbles will always be charged to the player holding the ball and rightfully so.

Fumbles are an actual outcome recorded as a statistic.

Okay?

Brandon Aiyuk on Brock Purdy: "This dude is on a different level"

A QB who actually knows what he's doing out there

San Francisco wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk said that there was never a moment's doubt that Purdy was in command of the two-minute offense as he called audibles, told teammates what to do, and methodically drove the offense down the field.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
https://www.pff.com/news/bet-pff-turnover-worthy-plays-bet-nfl-player-props#:~:text=Since%202006%2C%20PFF%20has%20tracked%20a%20statistic%20called,the%20pocket%2C%20throws%20that%20are%20interceptable%20and%20interceptions.

Thanks!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Brandon Aiyuk on Brock Purdy: "This dude is on a different level"

A QB who actually knows what he's doing out there

San Francisco wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk said that there was never a moment's doubt that Purdy was in command of the two-minute offense as he called audibles, told teammates what to do, and methodically drove the offense down the field.

slappin Jimmy for all the times he was open and completely ignored lol