QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Purdy is better than Dak, his contract should reflect that

They don't pay players based on how good they are anymore. If they did then Allen and Mahomes would be at the top. It's all about how much the other guys are getting paid and how desparate the team is. If they actually paid QBs and WRs based on perfornmance then we wouldn't be seeing these outragious contracts.

It depends on what the current market is when said Qb is entering the market. It's all about timing, nothing to do with if the player is worth the money or not.

I think it all really depends. Are we getting the 2024 Brock or the 2023 Brock? 2023 Brock was one of the best QB's in the league imo. 2024 Brock was pretty mediocre imo. Regardless I am fine with whatever we decide to do with him.

If 2024 Brock had his full complement of players like he had in '23, then I'd have pause for concern. But I'm fully confident the '24 Purdy is the Dirty we'll be getting going forward.

Brock just has to keep in mind that the more he gets paid, the fewer weapons/protectors he has around him...also, for me, why is 60 million (per year, BTW, a monthly check for 5 million before taxes) necessary when I could rake in an unspendable $45-50 million and add a player that could help me win, and survive. I guess I am more happiness/team success oriented than money driven...maybe Brock is too! Additionally, with the biggest contract comes the largest expectation...that can weigh heavy on some guys when things don't go perfectly...

Originally posted by Murphys1:
Brock just has to keep in mind that the more he gets paid, the fewer weapons/protectors he has around him...also, for me, why is 60 million (per year, BTW, a monthly check for 5 million before taxes) necessary when I could rake in an unspendable $45-50 million and add a player that could help me win, and survive. I guess I am more happiness/team success oriented than money driven...maybe Brock is too! Additionally, with the biggest contract comes the largest expectation...that can weigh heavy on some guys when things don't go perfectly...

I agree and that's why we might lose Grenlaw. If they weren't concerned about the cp then they could sign Greenlaw to a 3 year deal but Purdy's money will kick in. It'smore about how creative they get with his contract than it is about the overall price tag.

I wonder how many years they can stretch out the payments? Is there a certain amount that has to be applied to the cap hit every year or could they do a deal like Ohtani got where he gets paid after he retires? I'm not a cap expert so I'm asking.

Originally posted by genus49:
Which good chess pieces do you think we've lost because of a high QB contract?

If this season showed us anything is that people's concerns about Brock's deal should fall by the wayside.

You had the best QB in the game play some of his worst football to lose the SB in a blowout because he had poor pass pro and his receivers weren't getting open or would drop passes in key moments.

Meanwhile the other side had a QB with limitations in his game who got the "highest paid QB deal" just two years prior because the team built around him and drafted well, brought in key talent and managed to stay healthy and got the refs to help them out.

The idea that we're going to be bleeding talent is a bit silly. That will happen to any team that doesn't draft well or makes bad decisions in FA. If the 49ers make smart decisions and keep drafting well we'll be just fine with Brock.

Exactamundo

Originally posted by mayo49:
If 2024 Brock had his full complement of players like he had in '23, then I'd have pause for concern. But I'm fully confident the '24 Purdy is the Dirty we'll be getting going forward.

The 49ers needs at least 2 serviceable linemen. They need a legit backup to CMC to take the load off if he's not 100%. We only have one TE. Deebo is out so we go into the season with JJ and Pearsall as our starting WRs and no one else. Juice will likely be out. And Kyle hasn't changed his scheme in the 8 years he's been here.

What makes you think we're about to get an unstoppable offense next year. The only positive I see is that maybe we can have fools gold with an easy schedule and make the playoffs. And then what ? Get stomped by teams like Detroit, GB, Philadelphia, Washington, maybe Tampa Bay ?

this team has done a horrible job of staying young since 2021. We're an aging team. We're a slow team. Too many holes on offense and defense to make a serious run. We're about to go into mini rebuild mode one year from now, and it will start with getting rid of Kyle and starting fresh. The current iteration of this team is over.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by genus49:
Which good chess pieces do you think we've lost because of a high QB contract?

If this season showed us anything is that people's concerns about Brock's deal should fall by the wayside.

You had the best QB in the game play some of his worst football to lose the SB in a blowout because he had poor pass pro and his receivers weren't getting open or would drop passes in key moments.

Meanwhile the other side had a QB with limitations in his game who got the "highest paid QB deal" just two years prior because the team built around him and drafted well, brought in key talent and managed to stay healthy and got the refs to help them out.

The idea that we're going to be bleeding talent is a bit silly. That will happen to any team that doesn't draft well or makes bad decisions in FA. If the 49ers make smart decisions and keep drafting well we'll be just fine with Brock.

Exactamundo

A team wins 2 back-2-back SBs and goes 17-2 on the year b4 losing the last game with perhaps the best QB in the game,...and we're to -- somehow, someway -- relate this to why we should or shouldn't be concerned about Brock's contract??

We were 6-11.

Sorry,...it just doesn't relate to what kind of contract the 49ers should give him in any way, shape, or form.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mayo49:
If 2024 Brock had his full complement of players like he had in '23, then I'd have pause for concern. But I'm fully confident the '24 Purdy is the Dirty we'll be getting going forward.

The 49ers needs at least 2 serviceable linemen. They need a legit backup to CMC to take the load off if he's not 100%. We only have one TE. Deebo is out so we go into the season with JJ and Pearsall as our starting WRs and no one else. Juice will likely be out. And Kyle hasn't changed his scheme in the 8 years he's been here.

What makes you think we're about to get an unstoppable offense next year. The only positive I see is that maybe we can have fools gold with an easy schedule and make the playoffs. And then what ? Get stomped by teams like Detroit, GB, Philadelphia, Washington, maybe Tampa Bay ?

this team has done a horrible job of staying young since 2021. We're an aging team. We're a slow team. Too many holes on offense and defense to make a serious run. We're about to go into mini rebuild mode one year from now, and it will start with getting rid of Kyle and starting fresh. The current iteration of this team is over.

How do you quote someone and then still claim they said something they didn't? Who said they expect an unstoppable offense?

You may have your issues with Kyle but when his team wasn't gutted by key injuries his offense has been top 10 every year. Acting like they're going to go into the season with the existing roster is certainly something.

Maybe they're going to add some players in the offseason??

The holes on offense are nothing major unless Trent Williams retires. They most certainly can tread water with CMC, Kittle, Pearsall, JJ, Cowing and rookies or FA additions while Aiyuk gets back.

Defense may have more holes but if they can get Greenlaw back they'll be easy to patch up with this draft class being deep on the DL.

There is no need to act like the roof is caving in until it actually does.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by genus49:
Which good chess pieces do you think we've lost because of a high QB contract?

If this season showed us anything is that people's concerns about Brock's deal should fall by the wayside.

You had the best QB in the game play some of his worst football to lose the SB in a blowout because he had poor pass pro and his receivers weren't getting open or would drop passes in key moments.

Meanwhile the other side had a QB with limitations in his game who got the "highest paid QB deal" just two years prior because the team built around him and drafted well, brought in key talent and managed to stay healthy and got the refs to help them out.

The idea that we're going to be bleeding talent is a bit silly. That will happen to any team that doesn't draft well or makes bad decisions in FA. If the 49ers make smart decisions and keep drafting well we'll be just fine with Brock.

Exactamundo

A team wins 2 back-2-back SBs and goes 17-2 on the year b4 losing the last game with perhaps the best QB in the game,...and we're to -- somehow, someway -- relate this to why we should or shouldn't be concerned about Brock's contract??

We were 6-11.

Sorry,...it just doesn't relate to what kind of contract the 49ers should give him in any way, shape, or form.

I'm sorry you can't understand the logic or reasoning behind the points he is making or I am agreeing with. Maybe try reading it again and try to follow the logic. It's pretty simple

Originally posted by elguapo:
I'm sorry you can't understand the logic or reasoning behind the points he is making or I am agreeing with. Maybe try reading it again and try to follow the logic. It's pretty simple

All of that and no explanation about football or the topic. Which is understandable because there's just no connection as I said.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by elguapo:
I'm sorry you can't understand the logic or reasoning behind the points he is making or I am agreeing with. Maybe try reading it again and try to follow the logic. It's pretty simple

All of that and no explanation about football or the topic. Which is understandable because there's just no connection as I said.

It's spelled out for you in my post and has been a point mentioned many a time in here.

Maybe it's a you problem if you can't put it together but others aren't struggling to do so?

Sure hope Brock takes a little less so that we can get more playmakers on this team for him on both sides of the ball

Brock will get paid. And this front office will find a way to keep this team competitive. There is going to be turnover on this team in the upcoming years due to the fact some of these players are getting up in age and some of them will get picked up by other teams. But through all this no matter what they pay Brock they will keep this team in the mix, only thing that has more effect on that would be injuries like last year.