QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

The pass was late and severely underthrown.

It was. I don't think the design won either because of that outside DB. Usually Kittle would be wide open breaking back against the grain there.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd consider Montana more of our creator. Lol before him, we weren't even a respectable organization - after him, well we haven't liked a QB since. Lmao even young was terrorized by fans. Lol

Young was terrorized for good reason. Dude was gifted the best rosters in the league, made a HUGE deal about getting the monkey off his back the year we arguably bought a title, then choked the next 8 years to Favre. I'm madder about us handing Dallas the title in '95 than I was '92 or '93.

Young only played five seasons after the 1994 SB win, not eight. And in that last one he was blackballed by the 49er front office from returning to the field. So, four seasons. Oh yeah, one of those playoff losses to GB he couldn't play because of broken ribs.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
A ton of drops but his vision was pretty poor today (for him). He had some serious tunnel vision. Arm strength or timing/mechanics were off. Got lucky too.

But when needed, he came through. And he was tested a lot today.

It sure seems like Kyle avoids the outside when the heat is on. Everything in breaking. Oddly familiar.

No, again, that's due to personnel and opposing scheme. Purdy was not doing particularly well throwing downfield this game, the line was not doing particularly well protecting him, and they were bringing some blitzes. You can't do seven step drops when the QB is getting killed.

But the interception does prove that Kyle thinks differently of Purdy. That's one he calls for Lance. Same with the other play-action passes.

EDIT stupid new phone has terrible autocorrect AI.

Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

Yeah no it doesn't. One need only look at Trey Lance to see that that is incorrect.



Now, is that the QB making decisions on where to throw? Sometimes it is. Regardless, when it's not, when the scheme avoids the outside, mostly it's because of who the QB is that is playing, as shown here.

And as for the shot, one need only look at the Bears game to see that the QB matters in how often those are called. Several were called in week 1. I think Trey was 3 of 4 on them.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

The pass was late and severely underthrown.

It was. I don't think the design won either because of that outside DB. Usually Kittle would be wide open breaking back against the grain there.

But if Purdy leads Kittle to about the 10 yard line, that CB has no chance to make a play.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

The pass was late and severely underthrown.

It was. I don't think the design won either because of that outside DB. Usually Kittle would be wide open breaking back against the grain there.

But if Purdy leads Kittle to about the 10 yard line, that CB has no chance to make a play.

Two options there, he either needs to do like you said, or throw just throw it short and about a sec earlier.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Purdy was good/ok/good, no complaints. If you add in the rookie element, he was great.

The Raiders did not do us a favor just before the playoffs. Just like the Chiefs, one more blueprint given to the NFC teams. Just about everyone will start throwing deep.

The pro bowl for Hufanga was a bit early in his career. Just speed is not enough.

you guys need to relax...

its was a bad game with a weaker gameplan on a guy with no film.

The blueprint that KC put out was followed by 9 wins

Purdy did miss quite a few throws this game but yet still he led the team to the win. He stayed poised and showed great leadership

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd consider Montana more of our creator. Lol before him, we weren't even a respectable organization - after him, well we haven't liked a QB since. Lmao even young was terrorized by fans. Lol

Young was terrorized for good reason. Dude was gifted the best rosters in the league, made a HUGE deal about getting the monkey off his back the year we arguably bought a title, then choked the next 8 years to Favre. I'm madder about us handing Dallas the title in '95 than I was '92 or '93.

this guy hates steve young

f this place

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
A ton of drops but his vision was pretty poor today (for him). He had some serious tunnel vision. Arm strength or timing/mechanics were off. Got lucky too.

But when needed, he came through. And he was tested a lot today.

It sure seems like Kyle avoids the outside when the heat is on. Everything in breaking. Oddly familiar.

No, again, that's due to personnel and opposing scheme. Purdy was not doing particularly well throwing downfield this game, the line was not doing particularly well protecting him, and they were bringing some blitzes. You can't do seven step drops when the QB is getting killed.

But the interception does prove that Kyle thinks differently of Purdy. That's one he calls for Lance. Same with the other play-action passes.

EDIT stupid new phone has terrible autocorrect AI.

Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

Yeah no it doesn't. One need only look at Trey Lance to see that that is incorrect.



Now, is that the QB making decisions on where to throw? Sometimes it is. Regardless, when it's not, when the scheme avoids the outside, mostly it's because of who the QB is that is playing, as shown here.

And as for the shot, one need only look at the Bears game to see that the QB matters in how often those are called. Several were called in week 1. I think Trey was 3 of 4 on them.

Wasting time, it's already been proven he's wrong, he'll never concede lol.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

The pass was late and severely underthrown.

It was. I don't think the design won either because of that outside DB. Usually Kittle would be wide open breaking back against the grain there.

But if Purdy leads Kittle to about the 10 yard line, that CB has no chance to make a play.

If Purdy makes a better throw, the pass is completed. If the design won, there is no cb there and the pass is also completed. You are both correct in your analysis.

The CB recognized what we were doing and made a great play. Brock didn't see him or expect him to be there at all and just layed it out there. That's more on him not catching the CB drifting back into the play because I think he put the ball in a spot he thought was safe.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd consider Montana more of our creator. Lol before him, we weren't even a respectable organization - after him, well we haven't liked a QB since. Lmao even young was terrorized by fans. Lol

Young was terrorized for good reason. Dude was gifted the best rosters in the league, made a HUGE deal about getting the monkey off his back the year we arguably bought a title, then choked the next 8 years to Favre. I'm madder about us handing Dallas the title in '95 than I was '92 or '93.

this guy hates steve young

f this place

But he's not wrong. Young wasn't exactly clutch. His only superbowl was when we beat Dallas after going up 21-0 from the defense. And even that game was a sweat at the end. That team was bought also. Superstars everywhere.

He lost twice to Dallas in 92 and 93. Lost to the packers in 95 when we had the #1 seed. Lost to the packers again in the nfc championship game. Really his big play was the throw to Owens to beat the packers in a wild card gam at home, a game we were supposed to win anyway, only to lose to the nasty falcons the following week.

Montana and young were on a completely different level.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But he's not wrong. Young wasn't exactly clutch. His only superbowl was when we beat Dallas after going up 21-0 from the defense. And even that game was a sweat at the end. That team was bought also. Superstars everywhere.

He lost twice to Dallas in 92 and 93. Lost to the packers in 95 when we had the #1 seed. Lost to the packers again in the nfc championship game. Really his big play was the throw to Owens to beat the packers inna wild.caed gamebat home, a game we were supposed tonwon anyway, only to lose to the nasty falcons the following week.

Montana and young were on a completely different level.

He lost twice to Dallas in 92 and 93. Lost to the packers in 95 when we had the #1 seed.

Montana lost to the Giants three times in the playoffs. The 49ers lost to the Vikings when they had the #1 seed and Montana ended up getting benched in that game because he was sucking so badly. Its football, s**t happens, you're not going to win every game but all in all, Montana and Young were both absolutely elite quarterbacks, even elite quarterbacks have bad days but Young's end of his career dovetailed with the crap-ification of the 49ers roster where the roster talent simple was a shell of what it used to be. After 1994, the roster fell off steadily as the people in charge continue to botch move after move. If not for Walsh bringing in Garcia after Young retired, it may have been a lot worse.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If Purdy makes a better throw, the pass is completed. If the design won, there is no cb there and the pass is also completed. You are both correct in your analysis.

The CB recognized what we were doing and made a great play. Brock didn't see him or expect him to be there at all and just layed it out there. That's more on him not catching the CB drifting back into the play because I think he put the ball in a spot he thought was safe.

He learned what NFL DB speed really means. Its a helpful lesson for the future if he's willing to accept it.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
A ton of drops but his vision was pretty poor today (for him). He had some serious tunnel vision. Arm strength or timing/mechanics were off. Got lucky too.

But when needed, he came through. And he was tested a lot today.

It sure seems like Kyle avoids the outside when the heat is on. Everything in breaking. Oddly familiar.

No, again, that's due to personnel and opposing scheme. Purdy was not doing particularly well throwing downfield this game, the line was not doing particularly well protecting him, and they were bringing some blitzes. You can't do seven step drops when the QB is getting killed.

But the interception does prove that Kyle thinks differently of Purdy. That's one he calls for Lance. Same with the other play-action passes.

EDIT stupid new phone has terrible autocorrect AI.

Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

Yeah no it doesn't. One need only look at Trey Lance to see that that is incorrect.



Now, is that the QB making decisions on where to throw? Sometimes it is. Regardless, when it's not, when the scheme avoids the outside, mostly it's because of who the QB is that is playing, as shown here.

And as for the shot, one need only look at the Bears game to see that the QB matters in how often those are called. Several were called in week 1. I think Trey was 3 of 4 on them.

TBF, those are Trey's strengths (arm). 1on1 outside and run run run, deeper shot. Notice how the middle disappears with him?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Wasting time, it's already been proven he's wrong, he'll never concede lol.

The offense is no different right now, is it? Because the skill set from Jimmy to Brock is far closer than either to Trey and his skill set. Odd huh?