QB Brock Purdy Thread

A defense that if not shuts down, gets you the ball back over and over,....playmakers @ every position, etc.

I mean in micromanagerial fashion you can always worry about a rookie QB,...but given what we've seen, we certainly have a shot this year.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

oh my god. stop being so dramatic. lol.

I don't understand not supporting and being proud of our Mr. Irrelevant Rookie going out, making plays, and winning.

We have the whole offseason to slander him so he doesn't look like the better option to the guy you want at QB.

Originally posted by random49er:
A defense that if not shuts down, gets you the ball back over and over,....playmakers @ every position, etc.

I mean in micromanagerial fashion you can always worry about a rookie QB,...but given what we've seen, we certainly have a shot this year.

Until they start calling 15 yard penalties because you land on Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Instead of getting the awesome sack they will give a 15 yards penalty and a 1st down. Which you know they will.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Let's add some perspective to the Conversation

Last 5 games since Purdy came in compared to the top 3 QBs (in TDs) in the league (sorted by attempts):

Purdy_______141 attempts___1131 yards__10 TDs___3 INTs
Allen_______ 168 attempts ___1099 yards __9 TDs__ 3 INTs
Mahomes ___ 180 attempts___ 1455 yards __9 TDs___4 INTs
Burrow_____ 192 attempts___ 1370 yards__12 TDs__ 4 INTs

Rookie is not a top 4 QB in the NFL, but don't tell him that....dude is on a tear.

Without Deebo

He's incredible. It's obvious to see.

Every QB misses throws, every QB makes mistakes and throws picks... it is the NFL and they are human.

What he is doing as a rookie, with limited grooming, missing his primary WR is remarkable.

No QB has ever lead his team to a Super Bowl as a rookie, but QBs with far less production have won superbowls. If the defense can pick themselves back off the mat and the run game can help keep the offense on the score board Purdy might be enough to get a ring this year.

I can't wait to see if the offense is built around him next year. A proper offseason with his guys and 1st team snaps would probably clean up some of those missed opportunities.

I saw or read somewhere that Purdy really worked on his footwork 2 years ago, and was working with a Mechanics coach last year in preparation for the draft... and was able to add roughly 5mph on his ball velocity.

He does not a appear to be a guy that sits on his laurels. I am glad he did not get paid, because if he keeps up that mindset to grow and improve each year it will rock for the 49ers.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's only stats, but here's his off game stats:

62.9%, 284yds, 2TD, 1int, 95.4 rating

Jarrett Stidham (if only stats) was elite vs a great D

Since Purdy is a rookie, it's abnormal to expect that this team (esp passing) will continue to score > 30 points in the playoffs. All the top 4 seeds (excl 49ers) in either conference have a QB with a strong/accurate arm. That means every game, the DBs will be challenged, and that is a weakest area in this defense. I think most everyone knows that.

It was just odd the way the Raiders scored today, and it was also good to see the 49ers answer back. I don't know how Purdy will react when the playoffs begin and the tempo goes up X fold, I guess we wait and watch.

I have to rewatch the game but it still feels some of those drops should have been caught. In fact, my feelings are changing a bit in regards to next season. Brock has been shocking with this offense.

Yesterday was really the first time in YEARS that I feel so comfortable on all sides of ball not worried we are behind. We will win. And not slamming Jimmy but in similar situations I always felt come on Good Jimmy. We need you. Yesterday, it was we will win. A totally different vibe with this offense. It's been years since I felt like yesterday.

By the way, it's okay with D. They are allowed to be down once. Better yesterday then playing Philly later. It's humbling and out of their system now.

He extends plays with his mobility and good pocket presence, it gives fans hope of extending drives.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Salary cap didn't start until '94 and Carmen Policy back loaded a ton of deals to keep the team together. Things ready didn't get bad cap-wise until '98-'99. ZERO excuses for Young in '92, '93 and '95. He was trash in the playoffs and choked badly.

None of those were years that you could argue that the 49ers had the best roster in the NFL. If you want a point a finger at someone, point a finger at Policy and Co, the real reason behind the 49ers demise. Legacy guys like Young and Rice were the main reasons why the team managed to stay successful in spite of the awful personnel mismanagement, along with an assist from Walsh in dragging Jeff Garcia from out of the CFL.

The reality is that since the early 90s, the 49ers started a slow regression of talent. Policy and Co started believing their own ink, thinking they were the reason for the 49ers success. You had terrible draft picks compounded by bad trades and bad signings. They let a dynamic weapon like Ricky Watters walk and failed miserably in replacing him. They traded away Charles Haley to their top rival in the conference.

Acting like playoff disappointments started with Young is asinine. The 49ers went 13-2 in 1987, they were the #1 seed, heavily favored to beat the Vikings but instead got worked and Montana played so poorly that Young ended up replacing him in that game. You had other years where you can argue that they should have won, like 1990, solely fixating on the Cowboys is absurd. Dallas was loaded, Jimmy Johnson did what Bill Walsh had done in the early 80s in building an incredible roster and just like with Walsh, once Johnson was pushed out the door, the regression in Dallas set in.

I think Young gets unfairly crapped on because he happened to be the QB when as an organization, the wheels started to come off the bus, first the depth vanished and then position by position, the team as a whole got weaker and weaker. By the time they faced the Packers in 1995, it was pretty clear that Green Bay had the better roster at that point. They were better on the OL, they were better in the secondary, they were better at receiver, they were especially better at RB and Holmgren was simply a better coach than Seifert. Reggie White was the best overall player on either team.

Anyways, back to Purdy.

Hahahaha I didn't realize my thought on young's niners would be so contentious! All jokes aside - I appreciate the context you guys are providing.

it's difficult to understand how good a team really was by just looking at their record, I'd have to go back and watch the games.

Give this man rookie of the year

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Let's be honest - wasn't his best game. But def wasn't a bad game. He needs better ball placement consistently and our defense needs to stop getting hammered.

overall, i was impressed with Brock and happy with him. We need to tighten up our defense and get sharper. We won't win a playoff game with that defensive play

Fact: if that was Jimmy we'd have people in here saying he had a "great" game.

Lol if Jimmy was avoiding sacks like a Purdy was - hell yeah I'd call that a great game for him.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

The pass was late and severely underthrown.

It was. I don't think the design won either because of that outside DB. Usually Kittle would be wide open breaking back against the grain there.

But if Purdy leads Kittle to about the 10 yard line, that CB has no chance to make a play.

If Purdy makes a better throw, the pass is completed. If the design won, there is no cb there and the pass is also completed. You are both correct in your analysis.

The CB recognized what we were doing and made a great play. Brock didn't see him or expect him to be there at all and just layed it out there. That's more on him not catching the CB drifting back into the play because I think he put the ball in a spot he thought was safe.

What do you guys think: Was the INT the result of poor ball placement or lack of arm strength? Or both?

BTW Did you notice Kittle's facial expression after he was wide open (I think, it was in the 4th quarter) and Purdy didn't throw the pass to him because he threw it a little to early?

In my opinion, in plays like this you could see that Purdy was a tiny bit rattled because of all the pressure that the raiders D put on him. In some instances there was time enough to wait a little longer. Maybe that's part of Shanahans concept in this game to get rid of the ball quickly to avoid costly mistakes.

Don't get me wrong the kid played great. Especially when you consider he has only 4 NFL-starts under his belt.

Happy New Year to everyone!!!

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Give this man rookie of the year

It's going to be so annoying that he most likely won't get it because of the small sample size - even though he's been the best rookie This year, for sure.

leads all rookies in passing touchdowns, he's undefeated as a starter etc.

so far. This years nfl rookies have been underwhelming for the most part. Woolen in Seattle, Wilson with the Jets, and I think there is a running back #9 that has had a good year. Forget who he plays for.

i think Pickett is Okay at best. Lol

Originally posted by Toughniner:
What do you guys think: Was the INT the result of poor ball placement or lack of arm strength? Or both?

BTW Did you notice Kittle's facial expression after he was wide open (I think, it was in the 4th quarter) and Purdy didn't throw the pass to him because he threw it a little to early?

In my opinion, in plays like this you could see that Purdy was a tiny bit rattled because of all the pressure that the raiders D put on him. In some instances there was time enough to wait a little longer. Maybe that's part of Shanahans concept in this game to get rid of the ball quickly to avoid costly mistakes.

Don't get me wrong the kid played great. Especially when you consider he has only 4 NFL-starts under his belt.

Happy New Year to everyone!!!

I don't think the int was a result of ball placement or arm strength. It looked like he just made a bad read - it was his first real "rookie mistake", in my opinion. In college, you can get away with that throw, but in the pros the CBs bigger and faster.

I think he misdiagnosed how quickly that cornerback could get there and he should of threw it a little earlier.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Toughniner:
What do you guys think: Was the INT the result of poor ball placement or lack of arm strength? Or both?

BTW Did you notice Kittle's facial expression after he was wide open (I think, it was in the 4th quarter) and Purdy didn't throw the pass to him because he threw it a little to early?

In my opinion, in plays like this you could see that Purdy was a tiny bit rattled because of all the pressure that the raiders D put on him. In some instances there was time enough to wait a little longer. Maybe that's part of Shanahans concept in this game to get rid of the ball quickly to avoid costly mistakes.

Don't get me wrong the kid played great. Especially when you consider he has only 4 NFL-starts under his belt.

Happy New Year to everyone!!!

I don't think the int was a result of ball placement or arm strength. It looked like he just made a bad read - it was his first real "rookie mistake", in my opinion. In college, you can get away with that throw, but in the pros the CBs bigger and faster.

I think he misdiagnosed how quickly that cornerback could get there and he should of threw it a little earlier.

This. I'm pretty sure Purdy was quoted as acknowledging he didn't even see #21 on the play. Had he seen the defender, I suspect his placement would have been different.