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Originally posted by tankle104:
Although I want Brock to continue to start if he finishes the season as well as he has been, I also don't want to trade Trey - makes no sense.

trey is still a young talent and a capable starter at worst, it never hurts to have as many of those as you can. Worst case, we would have an excellent back up option for a few year. Best case, Trey develops into what we want and we have a franchise QB.

Makes no sense to trade him for another 2 years at least, unless we got a ridiculous offer. I could see the falcons wanting to trade a lot for him - I heard they loved him during the draft - idk if the same front office is there though.

There are a lot of very experienced college QBs who will in the draft in a few months that will be cheaper, more likely to be NFL ready and obtainable with our existing draft picks. It does make sense to trade Trey and get one of them. However, I am not sure of any team who would want Trey for anything more than a 3rd round pick if we were lucky.
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://sports.yahoo.com/brock-purdy-win-49ers-qb-011254285.html
Kyle texted Peter King telling him Purdy is just unbelievable.

Yeah he is. The future 49ers starter. Current one too. He's unreal for a young QB. He plays like a 10 year veteran with great accuracy too.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by jobiwon:
https://sports.yahoo.com/brock-purdy-win-49ers-qb-011254285.html
Kyle texted Peter King telling him Purdy is just unbelievable.

Yeah he is. The future 49ers starter. Current one too. He's unreal for a young QB. He plays like a 10 year veteran with great accuracy too.

Does HC typically communicate with reporters like this? Kyle has to know the reporters will report this to the public.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Does HC typically communicate with reporters like this? Kyle has to know the reporters will report this to the public.

Of course Kyle knows this.

He's not reporting anything other than Kyle texted him and said Purdy was unbelievable. The rest of it is Peter King's opinion.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Half the fans on this forum be like:

1. Has not lost a game.
2. Up by two scores going into the 4th every game.
3. Hanging 30+ points a game...

Please God let him go 7-1 and lose a playoff game for ammunition

Not good enough let's bring in lance and let him start and see what he does. He has to be better. Don't give purdy the job.

You forgot the Jimmy stans who have the same position.
Originally posted by JMC52:
If you combined Brock and Lance you would get this with good QB play.

https://youtu.be/u9pWHDNdSR0

FTFY. Brock can do everything Jimmy can do, except he can also move and throw accurately deep. But if Brock had Trey's size and arm strength, THEN you'd have the perfect QB.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good article on Purdy and how he was honing in his throwing motion and preparing for the draft.

https://theathletic.com/3158034/2022/03/02/brock-purdy-wearing-that-same-chip-on-his-shoulder-relies-on-arm-care-to-prepare-for-combine-long-nfl-career/

Throwing with a dead, tired or achy arm might not lead to a career-ending injury like it might in baseball, but it can cause quarterbacks to try to overcompensate. That can ruin a QB's mechanics, and that's not usually something the player can fix in-season. So Gormely hopes to teach Purdy how to properly care for his arm so that he isn't overstriding or lengthening his arm path to make up for an arm that just doesn't feel as peppy as it should. So far, it's working. "I'm throwing five days a week in a row with a lot of volume getting ready for the combine and pro day," Purdy said. "And every single day, my arm is feeling fresh. I'm like, 'How?'"




He knows what you're probably thinking when you read that. "There's still that same chip on my shoulder. There's always the doubters," Purdy said. "There are always people who say 'At the next level, you won't be able to get it done.' I've been hearing it my whole life."



At the Shrine Bowl, Purdy measured 6-0 and weighed 212 pounds. He won't blow away general managers and scouts at the combine this week with his physique. (Though Purdy does have absolutely massive thighs. In that respect, he is similar to Eagles backup Gardner Minshew, who measured 6-1 and weighed 225 at the 2019 combine.) He can zip those 10-yard outs, but he doesn't have the effortless arm strength of someone like Liberty's Malik Willis. Purdy isn't worrying about being a first-rounder. In fact, he's approaching his entry to the NFL much like he approached his college recruitment.



But should anyone be shocked if Purdy draws an NFL paycheck for the next 10-15 years? He plans to do just that by being the same person he was at Iowa State. "When you get into the locker room, I'm the kind of guy that gets everyone together," Purdy said. "I'm like the glue. I feel like I can take people and help elevate their game, and I get along with everyone."

But the biggest of his thighs dangles in the middle.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I'm not a Lance fan by any stretch. But if he stays here I highly doubt he busts. I dont think our offense would look as smoothbas Shanny would want it but i doubt he'd bust.... HERE. Somewhere else with worse coaching and less talent i could see bust potential. At least relative to his draft position.

as for trade doubt. Rumor was ATL liked Lance last year and he would fit the heavy run game Aurthur Smith likes. He could be a fit there. I could see them making an offer. Although with them currently sitting #6 it's highly doubtful.

Washington and TB may be only possible 1st rounders unless ATL or IND trade back in to the back end of the 1st if SF is hell bent on a 1st.

If Purdy turns out to be a great one, then he'll definitely bust here because he'll never get a chance.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Jets will pay a lot for jimmy. They have a good team. Just missing the qb

Or they can just give up a high draft pick for either Trey or Purdy, and have a cheaper QB for three years with more upside.

Why pay $16 million + for a 31 year old vet with maxed out potential vs. $1 to $8 million for a younger more talented QB?

Jimmy was traded for a 2nd with only 2 starts under his belt, that's less starting experience than either Brock and Trey at this point.

Plus, Jimmy isn't a good fit for the Shanahan system, he'll do better in Las Vegas or New England.

When Jimmy was traded to SF, he was ready to play. And I think the Patriots could easily have gotten more in the trade if it was done during the off-season.

Trey is nowhere near ready to play. If a team wants to win and compete right away, they should trade for Jimmy and not Trey. Also, people know what Jimm G is, a top 15 QB or close to that.

Trey has a higher ceiling but also a very low floor. He can be a top 5 QB or a complete bust, or anywhere in between.
Trey's been in the league 2 years. He's ready to play, especially in Mike LaFleur's offense which is identical to the Niners.

He'd be taking over with 3 NFL offseasons, 8 preseason games (Assumed), and 3 starts under his belt, that's more experience than Jimmy when he got here.

And he has put to rest the possibility of him being a bust during his 1st offseason when he learned the playbook right away; threw a 71 yard td on his 1st preseason completion; maintained composure and converted tough 3rd downs even in losses; impressively won a must 'win' game in week 17; and the Niners out gaining opponents in each of his three starts.

QBs are busts when the game proves too much for them to handle both on and off the field and they are permanently out of the league within a 2-3 years.
Think Johny Manzel.

That's unlikely for Lance given that he's shown maturity, work ethic, and has had an impressive game and many eye popping plays.

The Jets would give up a #1 for him.

A bust can be someone completely out of the league in a few years, or (for a high 1st round pick), someone only good enough to be a backup in the NFL.

Yes he has more experience than Jimmy when Jimmy got here, but Trey is certainly nowhere near as ready to play than Jimmy at that time. He is still a project, and that is why he has been a disappointment so far. I doubt any team will give up a 1st round pick for him. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

I provided examples of why he's not a project. If you're going to say he's a project, then provide support.

For example, is there a deficient trait that he has such as the inability to read coverages, bad attitude, etc?

I'm curious as to why people say he's a project, raw, etc., when I don't see it?

What I do see is a talented but still inexperienced QB who has shown all the talent and skill to validate being drafted #3, but who didn't get to show it on a consistent basis due to an early season injury.

And yes, the Jets would give up a #1 for him, he's been in their offensive system for 2 years now and played under similar concepts in college unlike Wilson.

His accuracy needs a lot of work.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.

Jimmy isn't a good fit for Mike LeFleur's offense as he lacks mobility and doesn't make plays down the field. At this point in his career, he's nothing more than a bridge QB to help establish a winning culture, not a someone who'll make the Jets contenders who'll hurt them past Miami, NE, Bills or KC to become contenders.
[ Edited by SinceXVI on Dec 27, 2022 at 9:26 PM ]
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.

Jimmy isn't a good fit for Mike LeFleur's offense as he lacks mobility and doesn't make plays down the field. At this point in his career, he's nothing more than a bridge QB to help establish a winning culture, not a someone who'll make the Jets contenders who'll hurt them past Miami, NE, Bills or KC to become contenders.

The frick you talking about? LeFleur was literally our passing coordinator for four of Jimmy's years here.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.

Jimmy isn't a good fit for Mike LeFleur's offense as he lacks mobility and doesn't make plays down the field. At this point in his career, he's nothing more than a bridge QB to help establish a winning culture, not a someone who'll make the Jets contenders who'll hurt them past Miami, NE, Bills or KC to become contenders.

The frick you talking about? LeFleur was literally our passing coordinator for four of Jimmy's years here.

lol.. Yeah I think Saleh would be happy with a Jimmy and Mike White situation.

We'll see though. If Tom Brady doesn't retire, I could see the Jets trying to get him.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.

Jimmy isn't a good fit for Mike LeFleur's offense as he lacks mobility and doesn't make plays down the field. At this point in his career, he's nothing more than a bridge QB to help establish a winning culture, not a someone who'll make the Jets contenders who'll hurt them past Miami, NE, Bills or KC to become contenders.

The frick you talking about? LeFleur was literally our passing coordinator for four of Jimmy's years here.

lol.. Yeah I think Saleh would be happy with a Jimmy and Mike White situation.

We'll see though. If Tom Brady doesn't retire, I could see the Jets trying to get him.

Imagine the pain that would cause Patriot fans.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.

If Purdy wins #6, I'm sure Saleh will be on the line offering a 1st and Wilson for Trey, and the Niners would listen.

I'm not sure Wilson and a 1st is worth the dead cap and downgrade at backup. You've seen how our QBs get hurt every year. We need a backup who isn't a guaranteed loss. Also, I'm also pretty sure Saleh is going to be sending roses to Jimmy in the off-season.

Jimmy isn't a good fit for Mike LeFleur's offense as he lacks mobility and doesn't make plays down the field. At this point in his career, he's nothing more than a bridge QB to help establish a winning culture, not a someone who'll make the Jets contenders who'll hurt them past Miami, NE, Bills or KC to become contenders.

The frick you talking about? LeFleur was literally our passing coordinator for four of Jimmy's years here.

lol.. Yeah I think Saleh would be happy with a Jimmy and Mike White situation.

We'll see though. If Tom Brady doesn't retire, I could see the Jets trying to get him.

The Shanahan offense is a run heavy scheme reliant on play action and downfield shots. Shanahan has gotten away from that more each year to accommodate Jimmy's strengths and weaknesses. He's a dink and dunk passer more suited to Josh McDaniel's short passes to the slot receiver scheme.

Both Lance and Purdy have run Shanahan's real offense.
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