QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by thl408:
He has a calmness about him when he's looking downfield. Waiting for him to get into a 'gotta have it' moment to see how he responds.

Yup. Almost want to see him take enough hits to rattle most....have a somewhat piss poor outing but trailing by 6 with 1:30 left in the game and get the ball on our 25.

Not me, I hope we get a lead in every game and expand upon it with every possession. I don't get wanting your team to be losing, unless you're an adrenaline junkie. My heart can't take much more of that crap. Lol.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I agree - trade him while he's still a pup and has a chance to develop with someone else.

Trading lance is a stupid idea. You're not eating all that cash and putting all your chips into Brock. This team doesn't care if you can't accept that drafting a QB requiring playing them

We're gonna need a backup anyway.

No need to trade Lance whilst he's still developing as a QB.

It's way too early to give up on someone you gave up a small fortune to acquire In the first place.

Absolutely no reason to trade Trey. I'm one of the folks that wanted to draft him in the first place, but I also realized that he was going to need lots of work to get up to NFL speed, and the unfortunate injury has held him back and possibly cost him the starting job if he can't win a competition come next season. No way I'd be for trading him at all, he just gonna have to work his ass off to try and win the starting job.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Listening to everyone's take on whether to trade Trey or not. I'm starting to lean with keeping Trey is probably the way to go. He's under a reasonable contract the next 3 years. Brock and him would make a nice young nucleus the next couple of years. I think that's the smart way to go.

It's really the only way to go. Can't hold injury against Trey. Brock is just going to make him have to work his ass off to win the starting job, if he can.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Without CMC we were 3-4 despite having the league's best defense. The offense was pitiful and we headed to a similar season as the Broncos. So it's a bit disingenuous to act like the difference isn't massive between the two situations. Especially since Lance's only full game was in a historic rainstorm at a level not seen since biblical times. Purdy's peashooter of an arm wouldn't be able to get the ball past the LOS if a single drop of water fell from the sky, so let's not pretend he would have done better in the same situation.

It's just dumb to focus so heavily on Lance's first two years rather than the bigger picture. If the Packers were as dumb as the people here they would have traded Aaron Rodgers after two years. If the Bills were as dumb as the people here, they would have gotten rid of Josh Allen. If the Chiefs fans were as dumb as us, they would have complained about what they gave up for Mahomes after he didn't play in his first year. Luckily for those franchises they aren't as dumb as us.

Just stop.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't think it's excuses. I think it's people not understanding that every player has a different trajectory when it comes to their development and career. If Lance stepped into the NFL as a 4 yr starter and 1,500 passes under his belt, I would think he would look a little more polished. SF new what they were getting there when they drafted him. It's a process and that decision was made with that in mind.

If we drafted Lawrence and he played like he did last yr (for a full year) would the same people in here be telling us he's a bust? Same with guys like Allen/Hurts. Not everyone is a stud day 1.

I've always maintained that you gotta play football to improve at it…now after a fair sample size of playing with little improvement, I would think objectively that you could make an assumption on a player. I gave Jimmy 4 yrs to make my opinion that we could improve there.

I got zero issues if Brock turns into the man. All I'm saying is drawing a fair conclusion on what Lance will be long-term in the NFL is silly.

as far as who's the QB next yr, that's not my decision to make. I support kyle and Co with whatever they do there.

NY, if we had Lawrence last year, there's no freaking way he would've sucked as bad as he did with that waste of humanity Urban Meyer as his coach. He would've been playing for Kyle Shanahan, I bet he would've been in the running for ROTY with Kyle and this defense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jalen Hurts who had over 1,000 passing attempts in college…his first season playing in Philly? 148 passing attempts…competed 52% of his passes for 6TDs and 4INTs. This forum would have ate him alive, now he's in the discussion for MVP. I'm not saying he's the next Hurts…but or f**k sake give him the chance to at least fail.

If our guy Trey is smart, he reaches out to whomever Jalen did to improve his accuracy and decision making.

I do not see a scenario in which purdy can lose the starting job before next season.

Worst case if everything implodes he goes 4-3 in his first 7 starts (really 5-3 if you count the dolphins).

More than likely he goes at least 6-1 (7-1) or better.

The coffins already nailed shut.

There's no way based on practice and pre season games the coaching staff should or would make the switch given what has already transpired.

If the wheels come off then you keep both and purdy starts and you see if he keeps imploding.

If he's 6-1 or better you might as well get a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, for lance while you can and just commit. Then you remove any controversy and you get draft picks. A win win.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
so going 1 of 5 in the RZ isn't an issue? Gotcha, I'll remember that. A couple explosive plays is what won SF the game including a Ray Ray handoff for 70 yards.

absolutely a blown block or a bad route can be the difference between a FG, TD or an INT. Now make sure to apply that to every QB here.

How many were McGlinchy's fault, I wonder? Man, we desperately need to replace right tackle.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Trey played in rain that SET ****ING RECORDS for the city of Chicago that day. 4th quarter was non-playable and 3rd quarter rain falling super hard when the Niners had the football. I was there sitting in that sh** all day.

First half 10 points of offense and Deebo fumbled early at the Bears 7 yard line preventing the opportunity for another TD to give us 17 in that first half. Trey made some elite tight window throws in the first half when the rain was somewhat manageable and missed one big throw to Kroft. 13 3rd down conversions...9 converted with his legs and Brock or Jimmy def not doing that either.

Loving how Brock is taking full advantage of his opportunity but Trey is not Zach Wilson here...Trey is not starting because he experienced a freak injury and broke his ****ing leg not because he played bad. I have zero doubts we'd be winning tons of football games this year with Trey starting the entire time as we have the most stacked roster in the NFL. Nothing Brock has done so far makes me think daaamn Trey isn't making that throw or can't make this throw. Brock has however made throws where I'm like damn Jimmy for sure isn't making that throw or can't make that throw..

I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the end but I want to see Brock maintain this level of play in the playoffs and not be a liability loke Jimmy was in the biggest of moments.

Dude, I've been a fan of Trey's since we traded up to third to draft him, but I am forced to say that I've seen a whole hell of a lot from Purdy that I don't think Trey is capable of yet. You'd have to be blind to not see the difference in play. Trey has a job cut out for himself if he wants to be the starter again. They can't just hand it to him anymore, he's gotta earn it, which is as it should be.

a lot of time has passed. the xbox 360 is 17 years old. when will we win a superbowl?

brock purdy was born in 1999. what could that mean? that was when steve young retired. brock purdy is here to carry on the torch that steve young passed down in 1999. lets win it !!!

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Trey played in rain that SET ****ING RECORDS for the city of Chicago that day. 4th quarter was non-playable and 3rd quarter rain falling super hard when the Niners had the football. I was there sitting in that sh** all day.

First half 10 points of offense and Deebo fumbled early at the Bears 7 yard line preventing the opportunity for another TD to give us 17 in that first half. Trey made some elite tight window throws in the first half when the rain was somewhat manageable and missed one big throw to Kroft. 13 3rd down conversions...9 converted with his legs and Brock or Jimmy def not doing that either.

Loving how Brock is taking full advantage of his opportunity but Trey is not Zach Wilson here...Trey is not starting because he experienced a freak injury and broke his ****ing leg not because he played bad. I have zero doubts we'd be winning tons of football games this year with Trey starting the entire time as we have the most stacked roster in the NFL. Nothing Brock has done so far makes me think daaamn Trey isn't making that throw or can't make this throw. Brock has however made throws where I'm like damn Jimmy for sure isn't making that throw or can't make that throw..

I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the end but I want to see Brock maintain this level of play in the playoffs and not be a liability loke Jimmy was in the biggest of moments.

Dude, I've been a fan of Trey's since we traded up to third to draft him, but I am forced to say that I've seen a whole hell of a lot from Purdy that I don't think Trey is capable of yet. You'd have to be blind to not see the difference in play. Trey has a job cut out for himself if he wants to be the starter again. They can't just hand it to him anymore, he's gotta earn it, which is as it should be.

Trey won't start unless Purdy is injured or flops. The latter is unlikely. The former is a real possibility given our QB injury history and poor pass protection by guys like McGlinchey (Although his run blocking is very good)

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
NY, if we had Lawrence last year, there's no freaking way he would've sucked as bad as he did with that waste of humanity Urban Meyer as his coach. He would've been playing for Kyle Shanahan, I bet he would've been in the running for ROTY with Kyle and this defense.

Lawrence was not good last yr. He was inaccurate and looked lost. He handled pressure poorly and even running a similar offense that he had in Clemson was confused.

outside of coaching he was bad all on his own. I can give you a ton of clips of bad throws.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
If our guy Trey is smart, he reaches out to whomever Jalen did to improve his accuracy and decision making.

Trey worked with Quincy Avery for like a year prior to the draft…that's who works with Hurts.

accuracy is based off timing and reps more than anything else. It's footwork and understanding coverages…he's not gonna magically improve there until he actually plays football. IMO overall he wasn't as horrible as people in here are saying. Not ridiculously consistent, but most young QBs aren't…gotta play football.

Trey "The backup" Lance

I'm a real fan of Lance despite his up and down start.

I went and rewatched his every-snap compilation from the Texans game as a reminder, and came away an even bigger fan...

... of Brock Purdy.

Going back and watching Lance now, in light of Purdy's success, leaves you with the impression of a QB who is a little cumbersome, burdened, and slow to process. The accuracy issues look very much like the product of a man who is having to work out too much stuff on each play (defensive read, his own throwing mechanics, game situation, etc.).

Purdy is just so much more of a slick machine at the moment. It's opposites in fact. The conversation about their contrasting attributes (arm strength, etc.) is pretty irrelevant for the short term because Purdy has his attributes up and running, whereas Trey's are still only partially deployed due to hesitancy and other issues.

I strongly suspect Purdy will start ahead of Lance next season. Why not?

One thing that might really help is that both guys seem genuinely humble 'servant of the team' types, which might really help take the sting out of the situation with regards to locker room intrigue.