QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

Idc where someone was drafted - I think Purdy has a high ceiling as well. What the hell dows that mean? That he make throws look at magical as Mahommes?

if he can get the same results as Mahommes in his own style - then that's the same ceiling, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Brock can't be a top QB in this league if he continues to grow at the pace he has. It's absolutely incredible and if he wasn't a 7th round pick - no one would be saying we should still give Lance a chance.

I think the problem is we all want the best. But on the same tow downplaying Lance over three games the same could be said about Brock's upswing. It's too early either way. I'll give one positive for Trey. His size. Brock was having throws batted down already. Again, not a problem buts let's be even keeled here. Trey has tangibles you look for. He's a beefy stud. Patience. Let's just keep winning and let it play out later.

And let's hope Brock keeps it going.

Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Same broken oline and lack of CMC Jimmy G had to deal with and still manage to win 70% of his games despite not having a training camp and preseason. These are lame excused for an under performing No3 pick QB who is too inexperienced to be an NFL starter.

On the other hand our lowly last pick in the draft has won 4 games on the trot minus one series.

One hits the ground running the other still needs a couple of years of development to be competent maybe.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

I don't think Trey hit the jackpot as much as everyone thinks. How good this team is and how ready it is to compete - I think he actually worked to his detriment.

if this team was bad or average, he would of been starting since day one, because we aren't playing for anything besides hoping he works out.

since that isn't the case, we went with Jimmy year 1. Now, he's injured and missed another whole year and his back up is balling. So I think it hurt him more than any of us realized at the time.

Trey had the golden opportunity to be handed the starting role this season for a good team, but got injured and missed the opportunity. And yes, the rise of Purdy certainly is not good for Trey going forward.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Trey had the golden opportunity to be handed the starting role this season for a good team, but got injured and missed the opportunity. And yes, the rise of Purdy certainly is not good for Trey going forward.

Not his fault the HC ran his ass into the ground. Thank god we're not calling those QB runs anymore.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

This. Purdy made everything look easy. Trey made everything look hard. I understand Trey is raw. He has high traits for a QB prospect, but as dj43 said, upside is just smoke in the wind.

Purdy has done everything right at this point. I think it would send the locker room a wrong message if Kyle go with Trey next season just to give him the experience. Purdy is polished, but he will definitely benefit tremendously to have a whole offseason of 1st team reps. It is also in our interest to developed Purdy and see how big of a step forward he can take in his game.

No. Jimmy made everything look hard. Trey has barely played - he was our best player in the monsoon game and converted 13 3rd downs and 9 with his legs.

He played well in the HOU game and was our best offensive player in his first game vs AZ. People need to go back and watch those games over every play.

Decisions are not going to be made about next year right now. Let's see Brock in the playoffs - hope he can maintain this high level of play when it matters most.

Either way we are in a great spot w these cheap QBs.

Trey made everything look hard when he played. Jimmy was ok.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Its not a knock on Trey. Its your failed attempt to knock Purdy for something Trey has struggled with as well. Now you are trying to save face by using Trey's finger injury as an excuse.

You are full of crap. I don't need to save face. You are coming off like a typical bandwagon fan without putting thought into the entire picture. What was put into the decision to draft Lance and why.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Not his fault the HC ran his ass into the ground. Thank god we're not calling those QB runs anymore.

Not HC's fault. He was not playable without being a running threat.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know you said your post wasn't directed at me but I never said any of those things. Never agreed with anyone who said any of those things. I am just making my case for why I believe we should stick with Purdy until he gives us a reason not to. With the way we go through QB's we would be naive to get rid of Trey so soon. I find it hard to believe he will not get another opportunity with us to prove his doubters wrong. But on the opposite end of the spectrum from your concerns, are those posters who want Trey to be annointed the starting job next season no matter how Purdy performs the rest of this one. I want the QB who gives us the best chance to win a SB next season, no matter who it is.

What's the point in making a case on who we should or shouldn't "stick with" in 2023? We're still playing in 2022.

Who's saying Lance should be the starter no matter what in 2023? I'm not see much of that what so ever. My debate has been about how fast people can s**t on or crown someone based off not much at all. People in here refuse to understand how important live reps and playing football is for player development and as just a baseline. I don't think there's a more important example then Brock vs Lance.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Trey played in rain that SET ****ING RECORDS for the city of Chicago that day. 4th quarter was non-playable and 3rd quarter rain falling super hard when the Niners had the football. I was there sitting in that sh** all day.

First half 10 points of offense and Deebo fumbled early at the Bears 7 yard line preventing the opportunity for another TD to give us 17 in that first half. Trey made some elite tight window throws in the first half when the rain was somewhat manageable and missed one big throw to Kroft. 13 3rd down conversions...9 converted with his legs and Brock or Jimmy def not doing that either.

Loving how Brock is taking full advantage of his opportunity but Trey is not Zach Wilson here...Trey is not starting because he experienced a freak injury and broke his ****ing leg not because he played bad. I have zero doubts we'd be winning tons of football games this year with Trey starting the entire time as we have the most stacked roster in the NFL. Nothing Brock has done so far makes me think daaamn Trey isn't making that throw or can't make this throw. Brock has however made throws where I'm like damn Jimmy for sure isn't making that throw or can't make that throw..

I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the end but I want to see Brock maintain this level of play in the playoffs and not be a liability loke Jimmy was in the biggest of moments.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Not his fault the HC ran his ass into the ground. Thank god we're not calling those QB runs anymore.

Not HC's fault. He was not playable without being a running threat.

Could have at least tried to make him into a pocket passer though. Otherwise why even draft him that high. You can find a duel threat QB later in the draft if that is what you are going for.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Are you saying Trey had the same experience and star power as Brock? I remember the oline being flat out garbage the first month with both J* and Trey. Kittle didn't has his groove, there was no CMC. The offense didn't start hitting it's rhythm until week 8.

Purdy has far exceeded expectations but he took over a perfect scenario. Far better scenario than Trey. Heck when Trey did have the full roster he statistically had a better game than Purdy with 249, 2 TDs, 70% and 31 rushing yards. Personally that's as impressive as what Brock has done.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Trey played in rain that SET ****ING RECORDS for the city of Chicago that day. 4th quarter was non-playable and 3rd quarter rain falling super hard when the Niners had the football. I was there sitting in that sh** all day.

First half 10 points of offense and Deebo fumbled early at the Bears 7 yard line preventing the opportunity for another TD to give us 17 in that first half. Trey made some elite tight window throws in the first half when the rain was somewhat manageable and missed one big throw to Kroft. 13 3rd down conversions...9 converted with his legs and Brock or Jimmy def not doing that either.

Loving how Brock is taking full advantage of his opportunity but Trey is not Zach Wilson here...Trey is not starting because he experienced a freak injury and broke his ****ing leg not because he played bad. I have zero doubts we'd be winning tons of football games this year with Trey starting the entire time as we have the most stacked roster in the NFL. Nothing Brock has done so far makes me think daaamn Trey isn't making that throw or can't make this throw. Brock has however made throws where I'm like damn Jimmy for sure isn't making that throw or can't make that throw.

I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the end but I want to see Brock maintain this level of play in the playoffs and not be a liability loke Jimmy was in the biggest of moments.

Fields played well enough to win the game. He had less weapons than Trey and out played him. Trey only managed a 48.8 completion rate and a 55 passer rating. It was poor play. If he didn't break his ankle in the next game and kept playing the same he would have been benched by week 4. The Trey hype did not live up to how he played.

Originally posted by Goatie:
Same broken oline and lack of CMC Jimmy G had to deal with and still manage to win 70% of his games despite not having a training camp and preseason. These are lame excused for an under performing No3 pick QB who is too inexperienced to be an NFL starter.

On the other hand our lowly last pick in the draft has won 4 games on the trot minus one series.

One hits the ground running the other still needs a couple of years of development to be competent maybe.

You mean a 31 yr old QB with 1,700 nfl reps and yrs on this team? That guy lol. Stop comparing him to Lance and his 100 passing attempts.

Only thing that's an excuse is pretending their situations are apples to apples. No one cares about Jimmy anymore. Thanks for everything. Respect time to move on.

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Are you saying Trey had the same experience and star power as Brock? I remember the oline being flat out garbage the first month with both J* and Trey. Kittle didn't has his groove, there was no CMC. The offense didn't start hitting it's rhythm until week 8.

Purdy has far exceeded expectations but he took over a perfect scenario. Far better scenario than Purdy. Heck when Trey did have the full roster he statistically had a better game than Purdy with 249, 2 TDs, 70% and 31 rushing yards. Personally that's as impressive as what Brock has done.

Yup. I had said the same last week. And that's not a knock on Brock at all but the entire roster is near perfect or as perfect as can be this squad. But lucky for us we have DPOY, number one defense. A great scenario for Brock to go far.

Dallas, Philly, teams who can score in the SB KC and Buffalo. A real challenge but think we can do it.

Hey we can always bring back the seriously long drought that was Alex Smith lol.

This has been fun & will be interesting to see what comes. We have a super great team, really cool to see.

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Are you saying Trey had the same experience and star power as Brock? I remember the oline being flat out garbage the first month with both J* and Trey. Kittle didn't has his groove, there was no CMC. The offense didn't start hitting it's rhythm until week 8.

Purdy has far exceeded expectations but he took over a perfect scenario. Far better scenario than Trey. Heck when Trey did have the full roster he statistically had a better game than Purdy with 249, 2 TDs, 70% and 31 rushing yards. Personally that's as impressive as what Brock has done.

Purdy has been dope and I don't think anyone can deny that. This team WK1 vs WK14 aren't the same either. Our OL now wasn't playing like it was then. No Kittle no CMC. Just wasn't executing like it is now…you could say that for Jimmy early as well.

not sure what people were expecting Lance to do this early in his career? See some flashes and then inconsistent play, like a ton of QBs early in their career.