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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Brock Purdy ranks since Week 13
— NFL on CBS 🏈 (@NFLonCBS) December 26, 2022
Rank
Pass Rating 110.0 1st
Pass TD/Att 7.5% t-1st
Win pct 1.000 t-1st
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
What brash decision are you referring to exactly? Because I am not one of the posters calling for Trey to be traded. I am simply in favor of letting this Purdy ride go as long as it will naturally go. In the meantime, Trey can continue to learn from passer's that are much better and much more experienced than him.
This is a general statement (not just directed to you). But things like Lance is a bust, Lance can't play on a good team to develop, purdy is the next Drew Brees, they should trade Lance etc etc…all these are over the top emotional statements.
no one knows what will happen next game let alone next yr.
I know you said your post wasn't directed at me but I never said any of those things. Never agreed with anyone who said any of those things. I am just making my case for why I believe we should stick with Purdy until he gives us a reason not to. With the way we go through QB's we would be naive to get rid of Trey so soon. I find it hard to believe he will not get another opportunity with us to prove his doubters wrong. But on the opposite end of the spectrum from your concerns, are those posters who want Trey to be annointed the starting job next season no matter how Purdy performs the rest of this one. I want the QB who gives us the best chance to win a SB next season, no matter who it is.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
And on whose time are we going to do that? Trent Williams whose what, 35? George Kittle, who will soon be 30. How long would it take him to get those 1500 pass attempts in the NFL three years? With two games left in the season Mahomes has 580 attempts. So is it your contention that the team should just wait around for two and a half years while Lance learns on the job? Lance's problem, and by extension, the 49ers, is that they have a roster that is built to win now. Purdy has come in and shown that, so far, he as what it takes to run the offense. He is efficient, mobile, aggressive with the ball down field and helps the team put points on the board.
At this stage of their careers in what faction of the game has Lance demonstrated that he is observably better except as a nose down runner? While he certainly has gained more yards running than Purdy he is not particularly elusive or quick. He is larger and stronger but I don't see that as a benefit for anything other than taking a dive into the line. I suspect a lot of those yards also came on plays where he broke out of the pocket on a pass that broke down, part of his 54.9 completion %. But I have also seen him get stoned on several runs where he was trying to get to the sticks with only a yard to go.
I remember one play where he was going around the edge on third down and ran out of bounds a half yard short of the sticks as opposed to that play by Purdy where he slid under a tackler, extended the ball, and got the first down with damaged ribs and a partially torn oblique muscle. There was also a play against Seattle I think where Purdy was rolling out after the snap and fell down. Fell down! But still had the presence of mind to get up and complete a pass for positive yards. Jimmy never makes that play and I seriously doubt Lance would make it simply because he isn't as nimble or quick footed as Purdy.
As a passer? Here are there stat lines so far.
Lance 8 games
Passing 102 Atts. 54.9% Comp 797 YDs. 7.8 Avg. 5 TDs 3 Int. 84,5 rating / Rushing 54 Atts. 235 Yds 4.4 Avg. 1 TD
Purdy 7 games
115 Atts. 67% Comp. 912 Yds. 7.9 Avg 8 TDS 3 Ints. 103.2 Rating / Rushing 16 Atts. 9 YDS .06 Avg. 1 TD
Regardless of what happens the rest of this year Lance is facing an uphill climb going into camp next season. About the only way he wins that job is if Shanahan and Lynch hand it to him again like they did this year. If it is really an open competition I don't see how he comes out on top quite frankly. Time will tell though I guess.
That decision (on whose time) was made when he was drafted…if you can't handle that then I don't know what to tell ya. Those dudes are all in the early stages of making top money. They ain't going anywhere and IMO this regime clearly knows how to make a roster and should continue to do such.
8 games lol? What are you even talking about random given plays on any given week? Same with Brock. In no objective world should you be tossing out those types of stats UNLESS you're trying to put out some confirmation bias.
I'm not arguing stats and we all can see that Brock has played better…no one is debating that. He also showed up with 1,500 passing attempts and 4 yrs starting. That's 5xs more attempts than Lance had. So yeah I'm not shocked that he looks more prepared right now, that's what I've been f**king saying since lance was taken…he NEEDS live reps to get better.
Whatever kyle and Lynch do next yr, I support. That's also discussions for next yr.
why can't we discuss the game right now? Do you think our offense was amazing this weekend? Let's talk about it…thank god for those explosives because I thought we stunk in the red zone. I thought we let DC hang in for way too long.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
DO YOU SMELL WHAT THE BROCK IS COOKING!!!!
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
What brash decision are you referring to exactly? Because I am not one of the posters calling for Trey to be traded. I am simply in favor of letting this Purdy ride go as long as it will naturally go. In the meantime, Trey can continue to learn from passer's that are much better and much more experienced than him.
This is a general statement (not just directed to you). But things like Lance is a bust, Lance can't play on a good team to develop, purdy is the next Drew Brees, they should trade Lance etc etc…all these are over the top emotional statements.
no one knows what will happen next game let alone next yr.
I know you said your post wasn't directed at me but I never said any of those things. Never agreed with anyone who said any of those things. I am just making my case for why I believe we should stick with Purdy until he gives us a reason not to. With the way we go through QB's we would be naive to get rid of Trey so soon. I find it hard to believe he will not get another opportunity with us to prove his doubters wrong. But on the opposite end of the spectrum from your concerns, are those posters who want Trey to be annointed the starting job next season no matter how Purdy performs the rest of this one. I want the QB who gives us the best chance to win a SB next season, no matter who it is.
Sorry, I want the best QB who gives us the best chance to be a franchise QB and gives us the chance to possibly win multiple Lombardi over the next 15 years. Both of these QBs are 21/22. The plan with Trey was to groom him. It was never going to be a one year gig.
Brock is playing really nice. It's way too early to give a final analysis. Look, we are a ton better than we have been but to put the smallest tiniest little negative we had some redzone issues again. First half last Saturday. Not a problem at all but let's be serious. We have a long way to go.
Both of these dudes look like they barely shave yet. Trey is QB1. Trey was drafted to be QB1. Very expensive and time consuming pre draft evaluations occurred. Huge draft capital given up.
Brock keep it going. Great job early in.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.
Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.
Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.
Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I thought it has been 100% healed.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
DO YOU SMELL WHAT THE BROCK IS COOKING!!!!
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.
Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.
Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.
Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.
Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.
Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.
Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.
Idc where someone was drafted - I think Purdy has a high ceiling as well. What the hell dows that mean? That he make throws look at magical as Mahommes?
if he can get the same results as Mahommes in his own style - then that's the same ceiling, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Brock can't be a top QB in this league if he continues to grow at the pace he has. It's absolutely incredible and if he wasn't a 7th round pick - no one would be saying we should still give Lance a chance.