QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Just repeat what you just did in drafting Trey. If Brock flames out, draft a QB in the next few years. Come on, use your common sense, brother.

Here's some common sense SF has a most $20M in DM if they move him…you have him for 3 yrs if you want at a reasonable price. We ALL know SF goes though QBs like water and your plan is to have Brock and who? You gonna have to actually pay money for a legit backup/vet.

let's stop being instant gratification reactionary emotional fans for 2 secs. How about that for some common sense?

what's even sillier is you want to draft another QB if Brock fails lol…you actually gonna let that one develop or no?

His 3 years expires at the end of next season doesn't it?

You agree that Purdy has now performed better than Trey and Purdy is most likely the starter next year right? And that Trey will only get an opportunity now before his three years expires if Purdy gets hurt? Right?

Not necessarily. Wha tif Trey outplays him in camp or is about the same as Brock and Kyle decides to go with Trey. Nothing is set in stone. I can't believe hiw peopek look at what little they've seen from bot Trey and Brock and decide what willbe next year.

Brock could regress and Trey might make big strides. We've seen both things happen many times in the NFL. Only an idiot would make up his mind avout next years starterer until after training camp.

My guess is it will be Purdy because I don't thunk Trey can improve that much during his rehab. By mid season it could be a different story.

One note on Purdy. Jimmy had one stretch where he threw 2 or more TD passes in 4 consecutive games in his entire career. It happened earlier this season against KC, Carolina, LV and Atl. The Niners went 2-2 in those games. Purdy has 2 TD passes in all 4 games that he's played in and all were wins. That's an indication of how far ahead he is in his development.

I just don't think Trey is going to get a chance to win the starting job with Brock showing so much promise. I know it's only been 4 games, but what else can you go by? He's a hell of a player, I don't think Trey can ever catch up.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Agreed. Through 6 seasons under Shanahan we have finished 1 season with the same QB playing every game. It would be dumb to get rid of Trey.

All of this is obviously hypothetical but what if..

Baltimore moves on from Lamar due to his injuries and contract negotiations. They tag and trade Lamar then offers us a 1st for Trey?

What if Washington offers their 1st?

Basically, what would have to be the offer for you to even consider it?

I can't really answer that. I am more worried about having a viable backup QB than recuperating draft picks.

Lamar is a good example why you do not want a running QB. Good for a while if you get a good one but they eventually get broken from all the hits. Trey didn't last two games before he got broken. If we are going to develop Trey we have to develop him out of running as much and develop him into a better short passing game and being more explosive and slippery out of the pocket like Purdy. This concept of using a QB as a RB is a recipe for disaster

This x 1M

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Yeah we have Two x 3rd round picks, one 5th round pick and two 7th round picks. So we got lots of power in the draft to get the cream lol

And apparently that's were we draft all our good players, what's your point? Everyone telling me we have a Super Bowl roster right now.

LOL I was supporting your point. We don't have enough draft capital to get anyone good unless we get really lucky like we did with Purdy, which really was a draft fluke rather than clever management.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
so you're justifying being a hypocrite. ok then

Well I'm not. As I don't believe in "Franchise QB" mumbo jumbo. All I think is Purdy has proved to be our starter.

I'm for one don't look for that unicorn at QB. I want a QB who can run the offense/system as we know it. If we are being honest, outside of Matty Ice's MVP season these past 4 weeks have been the best we seen Shanny's offense run.

I don't care if Purdy lasts 2 years or 15 years. At this moment he is the best QB to run this offense.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Just repeat what you just did in drafting Trey. If Brock flames out, draft a QB in the next few years. Come on, use your common sense, brother.

Here's some common sense SF has a most $20M in DM if they move him…you have him for 3 yrs if you want at a reasonable price. We ALL know SF goes though QBs like water and your plan is to have Brock and who? You gonna have to actually pay money for a legit backup/vet.

let's stop being instant gratification reactionary emotional fans for 2 secs. How about that for some common sense?

what's even sillier is you want to draft another QB if Brock fails lol…you actually gonna let that one develop or no?

His 3 years expires at the end of next season doesn't it?

You agree that Purdy has now performed better than Trey and Purdy is most likely the starter next year right? And that Trey will only get an opportunity now before his three years expires if Purdy gets hurt? Right?

Not necessarily. Wha tif Trey outplays him in camp or is about the same as Brock and Kyle decides to go with Trey. Nothing is set in stone. I can't believe hiw peopek look at what little they've seen from bot Trey and Brock and decide what willbe next year.

Brock could regress and Trey might make big strides. We've seen both things happen many times in the NFL. Only an idiot would make up his mind avout next years starterer until after training camp.

My guess is it will be Purdy because I don't thunk Trey can improve that much during his rehab. By mid season it could be a different story.

One note on Purdy. Jimmy had one stretch where he threw 2 or more TD passes in 4 consecutive games in his entire career. It happened earlier this season against KC, Carolina, LV and Atl. The Niners went 2-2 in those games. Purdy has 2 TD passes in all 4 games that he's played in and all were wins. That's an indication of how far ahead he is in his development.

No one is saying that Brock won't regress, but you can only go by what's happening now, Don't hang on to Trey for another 3 years if you have the future now.

Right now we have 2 young QB's at a very affordable rate.

JG is more than likely gone and we'll get a comp pick.

Brock is proving himself game after game. IMO, he hasn't come close to hitting his potential yet.

Lance is still a question yet to be answered.

I'm for trying to develop him and see what happens.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Right now we have 2 young QB's at a very affordable rate.

JG is more than likely gone and we'll get a comp pick.

Brock is proving himself game after game. IMO, he hasn't come close to hitting his potential yet.

Lance is still a question yet to be answered.

I'm for trying to develop him and see what happens.

I can go for that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So was Kyle not setting up easy throws for Trey and Jimmy or were they just not hitting on them?

Why we putting Jimmy and Lance in the same category? We got 4 yrs worth of legit film of Jimmy and like 100 passing attempts for Lance

Because Jimmy is in fact that limited. I take Trey everyday over Jimmy.

Gotta love football and fans lol…it's such a week to week emotional rollercoaster. Couple weeks ago it was man we need to pay Jimmy $25M per. Tua was looked at as an MVP until he came to SF. Now he's playing like s**t.

People in here sucking the Rams nuts and how well they made that roster, complaining about not trading for Stafford…now they're a joke. We're on QB3 and guys like Rogers and Brady are a shell of themselves. Lawrence was a bust and not he's not. Hurts was regarded as a "running QB" now he's a MVP candidate.

how about ya'll take a breath enjoy the games and understand there's a whole hell of a lot that can happen by the 2023 season

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gotta love football and fans lol…it's such a week to week emotional rollercoaster. Couple weeks ago it was man we need to pay Jimmy $25M per. Tua was looked at as an MVP until he came to SF. Now he's playing like s**t.

People in here sucking the Rams nuts and how well they made that roster, complaining about not trading for Stafford…now they're a joke. We're on QB3 and guys like a Rogers and Brady are a shell of themselves

how about ya'll take a breath enjoy the games and understand there's a whole hell of a lot that can happen by the 2023 season

I hear you, NY, but I'm trying my darndest to change your mind, but your a tough cookie to break.

Originally posted by Goatie:
LOL I was supporting your point. We don't have enough draft capital to get anyone good unless we get really lucky like we did with Purdy, which really was a draft fluke rather than clever management.

Purdy was a really lucky selection in the sense that he's stepped right in and has played the position better than a multi-year vet and average starter in Garoppolo.

That wouldn't be the goal though in using another pick on a QB in next year's draft in this scenario. The goal would be to find an experienced player capable of stepping in as a backup and managing the offense in the immediate short term, something Trey hasn't shown he's capable of doing. The limited sample we've seen shows the opposite, not factoring the need to cater the offense to his 'strengths'.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Just repeat what you just did in drafting Trey. If Brock flames out, draft a QB in the next few years. Come on, use your common sense, brother.

Here's some common sense SF has a most $20M in DM if they move him…you have him for 3 yrs if you want at a reasonable price. We ALL know SF goes though QBs like water and your plan is to have Brock and who? You gonna have to actually pay money for a legit backup/vet.

let's stop being instant gratification reactionary emotional fans for 2 secs. How about that for some common sense?

what's even sillier is you want to draft another QB if Brock fails lol…you actually gonna let that one develop or no?

His 3 years expires at the end of next season doesn't it?

You agree that Purdy has now performed better than Trey and Purdy is most likely the starter next year right? And that Trey will only get an opportunity now before his three years expires if Purdy gets hurt? Right?

Not necessarily. Wha tif Trey outplays him in camp or is about the same as Brock and Kyle decides to go with Trey. Nothing is set in stone. I can't believe hiw peopek look at what little they've seen from bot Trey and Brock and decide what willbe next year.

Brock could regress and Trey might make big strides. We've seen both things happen many times in the NFL. Only an idiot would make up his mind avout next years starterer until after training camp.

My guess is it will be Purdy because I don't thunk Trey can improve that much during his rehab. By mid season it could be a different story.

One note on Purdy. Jimmy had one stretch where he threw 2 or more TD passes in 4 consecutive games in his entire career. It happened earlier this season against KC, Carolina, LV and Atl. The Niners went 2-2 in those games. Purdy has 2 TD passes in all 4 games that he's played in and all were wins. That's an indication of how far ahead he is in his development.

Your argument about Trey is all about "what ifs" and ultra conservatism about "what if" Purdy regresses, Any thing is possible in an infinite universe but what is most likely is based on what we see. And what we see and what is reality is that Purdy is head and shoulders ahead of Lance in an NFL QB that can run the system. Purdy is not ahead of Jimmy G in regards to efficiency but is trending over time to exceed JG's efficiency. Given JG is second in the league behind Mahomes in efficiency Purdy is going well. What I judge Purdy on is his tangible results and the intangible aspects he brings such as leadership, that he is a big dog in the fight, his ability to play while injured (JG was good in this regard as well). All Trey is, is potential due to his body type with some spurts of good football in college and NFL. That potential is far from realized yet and I do not have a crystal ball. But as you well know potential can turn to bust as well as turn to be top shelf, or indeed anywhere in between. That is why I have little regard to unrealized potential as opposed to what is being delivered right now.

People say we should keep giving Trey a chance cause of the draft picks we spent, how come no one is talking about the gift Purdy would provide us? … a starting qb for the next few years making under a mil? YES. PLEASE.

I think that's better than first round picks in a lot of ways, frees you up to bolster your team with cheap vets and resign your own guys or guys you want to trade for.

makes things like paying CMC and bosa a non issue

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY, but I'm trying my darnedest to change your mind, but your a tough cookie to break.

I don't need my mind to be changed. I'm completely content letting it all play out.