QB Brock Purdy Thread

1. Originally posted by mayo49:
   Alright, people the gushing over Brock is getting ridiculous. He's good, let's not jinx it and go overboard about it.

So, I shouldn't legally change my three sons names' to Brock?

Originally posted by mayo49:
Alright, people the gushing over Brock is getting ridiculous. He's good, let's not jinx it and go overboard about it.

This is true. He's been good, but Kyle has set up a lot of easy throws for him and Brock has had quite a few throws where it's hard to even figure out who he was trying to throw it to. That said, a 7th round rookie running the offense this well has shown just how much Jimmy was holding this offense back.

1. Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
   Kyle and John felt he was worth a gamble and they certainly know that if he doesn't pay off somewhere down the line that they'll look bad. We alllove draft picks but the truth is since 2016 the Niners haven't done well with 1st round picks.
   
   They hit on Bosa, Aiyuk and Buckner
   
   They missed on Foster, Garnett and Thomas
   
   Lance, Kinlaw and McGlinchey are questionable.
   
   So they hit on about 1/3 of their first round picks with 2 still to be decided. Their chances of getting a star player with those 2 first round draft picks they lost wer no better than 50/50. That's about the same as the chances of a 1st round QB making it in the NFL. Was the risk worth it. We'll see.

Overall, Kyle and John have done an amazing job building this roster to top of the league level. Critical mistakes can unwind that success however.

Use a poker analogy:

You're in a tournament and you make smart play after smart play, with minor mistakes mixed in, and continue to build your stack until you are one of the chip leaders. Then, you get reckless and you decide to push all in preflop with a suboptimal hand, say 10 J, on the hopes you hit a full house or straight on the flop and become the overwhelming chip leader. You bust out, and it's game over.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I disagree, Trey will be Brocks backup next year, unless he does a nose dive the rest of the season and it's an early exit in the playoffs. Brock is ready to go now, Trey needs more time to develop into what Brock already is.

Agree with ya, mayo

NFL is littered with one year wonders at QB. Heck Kap looked like a generational QB running the read/option in 2011 and probably should of won that Superbowl . Odds are he is more Nick Foles than Tom Brady & Trey will be given every opportunity to start next year.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
We drafted Lance to be the starter for the next decade. If you think he was ever gonna come out of the gate and be Tom Brady, that's your problem. Kid lacked reps we ALL knew that! There's a process and SF accepted that process when they moved up for him….not my problem if you can't understand that.

I got no problem with Brock, if he turns into a super star not one single person will be upset.

Developing requires playing football. You can still win and do that.

I understand the strategy just fine. It was a bad strategy. A bad misuse of assets in the middle of a Super Bowl window. We needed immediate improvement at the position, or at least immediate insurance at the position, and they decided to prioritize 'the future' instead.

Purdy represents a life raft from that mistake.

Too, early to draft a QB, with Jimmy just entering the middle of his contract. Pre-mature ejaculation if you ask me.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's almost like playing football makes you better at football…more time to develop by NOT playing football isn't gonna do jack s**t for Lance. Not saying he should start next yr, but let's stop with the narrative of not playing will make anyone better at playing football.

This is why I don't think trading Lance is a bad idea. As you said, if he doesn't play it's not gonna do jack s**t for Lance. So if Brock is going to be your starter and Trey isn't getting the reps he needs then why not trade him? As you said, he won't develop behind Brock. So if they decide Brock is their guy why not trade him while he has SOME value? After next year his 5th year option needs to be determined. That adds the value to explore a trade.

For me on Trey next year, I would definitely listen to offers. That's assuming they feel the same about Brock as I do.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's almost like playing football makes you better at football…more time to develop by NOT playing football isn't gonna do jack s**t for Lance. Not saying he should start next yr, but let's stop with the narrative of not playing will make anyone better at playing football.

This is why I don't think trading Lance is a bad idea. As you said, if he doesn't play it's not gonna do jack s**t for Lance. So if Brock is going to be your starter and Trey isn't getting the reps he needs then why not trade him? As you said, he won't develop behind Brock. So if they decide Brock is their guy why not trade him while he has SOME value? After next year his 5th year option needs to be determined. That adds the value to explore a trade.

For me on Trey next year, I would definitely listen to offers. That's assuming they feel the same about Brock as I do.

I agree - trade him while he's still a pup and has a chance to develop with another team. Trade him for picks or players - maybe get a RT to replace McGlinchey.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I understand the strategy just fine. It was a bad strategy. A bad misuse of assets in the middle of a Super Bowl window. We needed immediate improvement at the position, or at least immediate insurance at the position, and they decided to prioritize 'the future' instead.

Purdy represents a life raft from that mistake.

No one cares if you think it's "dumb" it's what they did and that's the process….you clearly had a bias since it first happened and will find any way to prove you were right.

Purdy represents the fact that playing a lot of football gets you prepared to play football…this franchise doesn't give a flying f**k if you can't accept that. They clearly can win games with avg QB play. They weren't trying to lose games this yr when they made Lance the starter.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I agree - trade him while he's still a pup and has a chance to develop with someone else.

Trading lance is a stupid idea. You're not eating all that cash and putting all your chips into Brock. This team doesn't care if you can't accept that drafting a QB requiring playing them

Originally posted by krizay:
This is why I don't think trading Lance is a bad idea. As you said, if he doesn't play it's not gonna do jack s**t for Lance. So if Brock is going to be your starter and Trey isn't getting the reps he needs then why not trade him? As you said, he won't develop behind Brock. So if they decide Brock is their guy why not trade him while he has SOME value? After next year his 5th year option needs to be determined. That adds the value to explore a trade.

For me on Trey next year, I would definitely listen to offers. That's assuming they feel the same about Brock as I do.

No

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Alright, people the gushing over Brock is getting ridiculous. He's good, let's not jinx it and go overboard about it.

This is true. He's been good, but Kyle has set up a lot of easy throws for him and Brock has had quite a few throws where it's hard to even figure out who he was trying to throw it to. That said, a 7th round rookie running the offense this well has shown just how much Jimmy was holding this offense back.

So was Kyle not setting up easy throws for Trey and Jimmy or were they just not hitting on them?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I agree - trade him while he's still a pup and has a chance to develop with someone else.

Trading lance is a stupid idea. You're not eating all that cash and putting all your chips into Brock. This team doesn't care if you can't accept that drafting a QB requiring playing them

So, your going to keep him on the team for the next 3 years and get nothing for him when he walks?

Originally posted by mayo49:
So, your going to keep him on the team for the next 3 years and get nothing for him when he walks?

What you think Bock is never gonna get hurt and gonna be an all-pro…no matter what? How about you let s**t play out? Those draft picks are gone regardless..that cash is tied to SF regardless.

Making rash decisions like that are silly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
So, your going to keep him on the team for the next 3 years and get nothing for him when he walks?

What you think Bock is never gonna get hurt and gonna be an all-pro…no matter what? How about you let s**t play out? Those draft picks are gone regardless..that cash is tied to SF regardless.

Making rash decisions like that are silly.

Just repeat what you just did in drafting Trey. If Brock flames out, draft a QB in the next few years. Come on, use your common sense, brother.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So was Kyle not setting up easy throws for Trey and Jimmy or were they just not hitting on them?

Why we putting Jimmy and Lance in the same category? We got 4 yrs worth of legit film of Jimmy and like 100 passing attempts for Lance