QB Brock Purdy Thread

#2 In yardage
#2 In touchdowns
#2 In TD/Int ratio
#1 In QBR

One bad game doesn't define you. He's still been the best and most consistent QB In the league this season Imo.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Purdy crap the bed big time… it's weird he has games like this, he not very good when he had to press, god help us if we get behind in the playoffs

If it was just Purdy I would tend to agree but the whole team fell apart. After that first drive went bad it looked like the team kind of went flat. The D was missing tackles. They committed 6 major penalties on defense that allowed drives to continue. The O line had a terrible day pass blocking. Then they all started getting hurt. Other than Kittle on the first couple drives and CMC the rest of the team had a subpar game. You can't beat a good team when everything isn't clicking.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Purdy crap the bed big time… it's weird he has games like this, he not very good when he had to press, god help us if we get behind in the playoffs

If it was just Purdy I would tend to agree but the whole team fell apart. After that first drive went bad it looked like the team kind of went flat. The D was missing tackles. They committed 6 major penalties on defense that allowed drives to continue. The O line had a terrible day pass blocking. Then they all started getting hurt. Other than Kittle on the first couple drives and CMC the rest of the team had a subpar game. You can't beat a good team when everything isn't clicking.

I agree.

The entire team had a meltdown In the 2nd half, similar to what we saw In the Super Bowl and nfccg against the Rams.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If it was just Purdy I would tend to agree but the whole team fell apart. After that first drive went bad it looked like the team kind of went flat. The D was missing tackles. They committed 6 major penalties on defense that allowed drives to continue. The O line had a terrible day pass blocking. Then they all started getting hurt. Other than Kittle on the first couple drives and CMC the rest of the team had a subpar game. You can't beat a good team when everything isn't clicking.

Yeah, this defo was not all on Purdy. How many balls did receivers drop? I think Deebo missed two or three iirc..there were missed tackles, 100 yards in fking penalties. Injuries, a meh punt with a personal foul tacked on by Mitch..the whole thing was a hot mess. One interception was on Purdy. The rest were unfortunate as Shanny put it. But I am sure BP puts a lot of the responsibility on himself. But you cannot carry a team when the team does not show up at all. It was a train wreck.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Purdy crap the bed big time… it's weird he has games like this, he not very good when he had to press, god help us if we get behind in the playoffs

If it was just Purdy I would tend to agree but the whole team fell apart. After that first drive went bad it looked like the team kind of went flat. The D was missing tackles. They committed 6 major penalties on defense that allowed drives to continue. The O line had a terrible day pass blocking. Then they all started getting hurt. Other than Kittle on the first couple drives and CMC the rest of the team had a subpar game. You can't beat a good team when everything isn't clicking.

I agree.

The entire team had a meltdown In the 2nd half, similar to what we saw In the Super Bowl and nfccg against the Rams.

I remember the Eagles game in 1994 when Seifert pulled Young out of the game after he threw his 2nd INT. They started yelling at each other on the sidelines. Steve was having a terrible game and the rest of the team just fell aprt. They ost 40-8.

Then they won the SB by destroying San Diego.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Meh, Baldy's "breakdowns"..I don't learn s**t from them, and take away nothing from them, to be frank. I can go on NFL+ and watch the game again and learn just as much lol. Del's are much better. 👍

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Meh, Baldy's "breakdowns"..I don't learn s**t from them, and take away nothing from them, to be frank. I can go on NFL+ and watch the game again and learn just as much lol. Del's are much better. 👍

Then you're not watching enough of them or just don't know better.. Baldy is great at his analysis. Weird take lol

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Then you're not watching enough of them or just don't know better.. Baldy is great at his analysis. Weird take lol

If you say so

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I like Purdy and think he is a top 10 QB easily but I hate how when we plays great the talk is how great he is but when he plays bad it's all Kyle's fault and his play-calling. If you are going to put all the blame on Kyle for Purdy's failures you have to give him all the credit for Purdy's success. Can't have it both ways. Brock had a really bad game because the defense he was playing against was simply better that night. Other team's have great players also. The toughest part of being a fan of a sports team is being able to handle the swings, the lows when they happen. Fortunetely for us we haven't dealt with nearly as many lows as most other team's fanbases this season. And because of that we become spoiled.

Nah, this was Purdy's fault, he just didn't see the field how he usually does. Maybe it could be that he had 39 pressure on 46 drop backs or something like that, but I think there were times were he should've taken the check downs. What I was hoping for was a good blend of the run and pass with Purdy being a little conservative before firing it downfield like he did in the opening drive. It's like the Ravens got in Purdy's head and all he wanted to do was go for the knockout every drive. We know Purdy and the offense can put up numbers, but this was a game of keep away, time of possession, taking your time.

Also this MVP talk I know has affected him, I bet he wanted to go out and impress the world, shoot who wouldn't if their name was in consideration for the MVP. But just by the looks of this game, he played it all wrong.

Agree 💯%, I think the MVP talk got to him and changed his game just a smidge, and that's all it takes in the NFL. One play. 49ers beat the Bengals twice in the super bowl and basically it was just one or two plays that made a difference in each game that decided the outcomes. One play.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I like Purdy and think he is a top 10 QB easily but I hate how when we plays great the talk is how great he is but when he plays bad it's all Kyle's fault and his play-calling. If you are going to put all the blame on Kyle for Purdy's failures you have to give him all the credit for Purdy's success. Can't have it both ways. Brock had a really bad game because the defense he was playing against was simply better that night. Other team's have great players also. The toughest part of being a fan of a sports team is being able to handle the swings, the lows when they happen. Fortunetely for us we haven't dealt with nearly as many lows as most other team's fanbases this season. And because of that we become spoiled.

Nah, this was Purdy's fault, he just didn't see the field how he usually does. Maybe it could be that he had 39 pressure on 46 drop backs or something like that, but I think there were times were he should've taken the check downs. What I was hoping for was a good blend of the run and pass with Purdy being a little conservative before firing it downfield like he did in the opening drive. It's like the Ravens got in Purdy's head and all he wanted to do was go for the knockout every drive. We know Purdy and the offense can put up numbers, but this was a game of keep away, time of possession, taking your time.

Also this MVP talk I know has affected him, I bet he wanted to go out and impress the world, shoot who wouldn't if their name was in consideration for the MVP. But just by the looks of this game, he played it all wrong.

Yea to me there are losses in previous years where you can say we were the worse team and wouldn't improve in a rematch. This team is not like that. We just had a terrible, and I mean terrible, gameplan. All the bad that occurred can be fixed.

You think the DLine will lose contain as frequently as they did in the rematch? Sure maybe a couple of times, but not nearly as much especially when AA gets back. I'm also willing to bet Kyle comes in with a more balanced gameplan that isn't so pass happy. That can be fixed. The creativity wasn't there because I think Kyle wanted to showcase Purdy first, then CMC.

I think dismantling the Eagles, Cowboys, Jaguars, and a few others made this team think they can just show up and destroy anybody. I just didn't feel the preparation I usually do against the Ravens. All that can be fixed.

I'm buying what you're selling. I agree 💯%, the MVP talk got to the entire 49er team. It got to Purdy and Shanahan too. Great insight, and I also agree it's fixable. Get Arik back and all things will be well on the Defensive side. Health has been Kyle's kryptonite - but the nice thing about that kryptonite is that it can uncover gems like Purdy, Mitchell, and other depth players.

Unfortunately ShanaLynch doesn't use the same kryptonite philosophy on the OLine. Instead of loading the OLine up with promising talented depth players like a 7th round pick in Purdy, they go with journeymen free agents. I hope that changes in the future.

Originally posted by LundyLove:
If he wins a Super Bowl

who cares what pundits think.

Good chance of that, if the 49ers are all healthy.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by dj43:
Yes, at some point, if we are to come back from a deficit, the defense has to get the ball back so we can attempt to come back. That is a "duh" moment. (no offense)

The question is, assuming the defense can get a couple of stops, can this KS offense, with Purdy and the most productive set of pass catchers in the league, come back to win?

Or, more specifically, why can it not?

I posted an answer to this, it's not the most productive set of pass catchers, unless you are looking with a certain lens, at maybe per play metrics. Hard to say our pass catchers exceed what MIA, MIN, heck LV, or a lot of others can do. SEA has 3 elite receivers. Rams have elite WRs. We have complete players, and factors in the run game. Being a factor in the run game, is a KS requisite. PIT has a couple high end receivers, who made headlines for refusing to block.

BA to me is a complete receiver, can get separation, and can block. Deebo isn't a route runner in my book, he doesn't separate like BA. He's a bit of a wildcard, and a times, RB. Kittle is a complete TE, but a lot of his receiving work you can find around the league. His value he's insanely gritty, and a warrior in the run game, as well as a respected leader in the LR. I wouldn't at all say that we have the best pass down players in the game, far from it. We do have the best run down players in the game. Who wants to be on the receiving end of Trent, Kittle, BA, Deebo, all coming at you as run blockers? It's only when that run game is cooking that we can take advantage of how it distorts defenses to give the efficiency numbers that you are talking about, in the per play pass metrics.

I think BA is the closest thing to a Jerry Rice - a pure pass catching WR - that we have, that can generate those kinds of comebacks. Deebo is a RB/WR - but he's not known as a burner that can burn you deep the way Jerry could. Deebo's similar to CMC that way. They are runners and YAC monsters, but they aren't going to burn a defense deep because of their speed or their route running.

I also agree that a defense has to generate stops to create a comeback opportunity, in addition to the OLine pass blocking to create those deep passing shots to make those quarterback come from behind plays possible.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by dj43:
Yes, at some point, if we are to come back from a deficit, the defense has to get the ball back so we can attempt to come back. That is a "duh" moment. (no offense)

The question is, assuming the defense can get a couple of stops, can this KS offense, with Purdy and the most productive set of pass catchers in the league, come back to win?

Or, more specifically, why can it not?

I posted an answer to this, it's not the most productive set of pass catchers, unless you are looking with a certain lens, at maybe per play metrics. Hard to say our pass catchers exceed what MIA, MIN, heck LV, or a lot of others can do. SEA has 3 elite receivers. Rams have elite WRs. We have complete players, and factors in the run game. Being a factor in the run game, is a KS requisite. PIT has a couple high end receivers, who made headlines for refusing to block.

BA to me is a complete receiver, can get separation, and can block. Deebo isn't a route runner in my book, he doesn't separate like BA. He's a bit of a wildcard, and a times, RB. Kittle is a complete TE, but a lot of his receiving work you can find around the league. His value he's insanely gritty, and a warrior in the run game, as well as a respected leader in the LR. I wouldn't at all say that we have the best pass down players in the game, far from it. We do have the best run down players in the game. Who wants to be on the receiving end of Trent, Kittle, BA, Deebo, all coming at you as run blockers? It's only when that run game is cooking that we can take advantage of how it distorts defenses to give the efficiency numbers that you are talking about, in the per play pass metrics.

I think BA is the closest thing to a Jerry Rice - a pure pass catching WR - that we have, that can generate those kinds of comebacks. Deebo is a RB/WR - but he's not known as a burner that can burn you deep the way Jerry could. Deebo's similar to CMC that way. They are runners and YAC monsters, but they aren't going to burn a defense deep because of their speed or their route running.

I also agree that a defense has to generate stops to create a comeback opportunity, in addition to the OLine pass blocking to create those deep passing shots to make those quarterback come from behind plays possible.

It is an interesting convo, if you look at some of those great comebacks, it's just drop the QB back every play. For an example when TB12 came back vs SF in 2012, from a 28 point deficit, he threw 65 times. NE ran 94 plays. Similar numbers in the SB vs ATL. So you gotta be able to drop the QB back every play with success, you can do that to the extent you are built around the pass.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Meh, Baldy's "breakdowns"..I don't learn s**t from them, and take away nothing from them, to be frank. I can go on NFL+ and watch the game again and learn just as much lol. Del's are much better. 👍

Basically, 9ers got outcoached/outplayed In every facet of the game.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Meh, Baldy's "breakdowns"..I don't learn s**t from them, and take away nothing from them, to be frank. I can go on NFL+ and watch the game again and learn just as much lol. Del's are much better. 👍

LOL