QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
But it has been always about stats..
Lamar got it when he had the best stats, as did Cam, and I can go on. Why should this year be any different?

Also, people need to stop with the "generational offense, b******t", when did Kurt Warner win it? When he had talent around him. Same with Peyton manning & again, I can go on.
How about Mahomes right now? Why isn't he winning MVP if he's a generational talent, he should be throwing touchdowns all day long.
Hmmm well let me guess, he needs some players around him..

Ridiculous how people downplay how Purdy is playing right now.

I guarantee you if Trey Lance was doing what Purdy is doing right now Trey Lance would be the unanimous MVP… tell me I'm wrong.

Exactly!!! Hear hear.

It's hilarious because Deebo probably won't be in the hall of fame. Same with Aiyuk. Possibly not even Kittle. Whereas Kurt Warner DID have 2 HOF Wrs, a HOF RB and a HOF LT. Like you said Manning had numerous HOF players too.

People are so short sighted it's ridiculous the arguments they try to make to continue to push their narrative. They can't admit they are wrong. It's pathetic. Charles Davis manned up this weekend and said as much. Much respect.

I agree that If Lance was doing what Brock is doing (hell even 75% of what Brock is doing) - he would be raves about and considered the best thing since sliced bread.

like Jeepzilla said - it usually has to do with who has the best stats AND their team win/lose record - a big reason cam win it over Brady that year was cause they were 14-1.

It would be one thing if Brock's stats were average with this talent (like jimmys) but Brock does a ton of credit for taking advantage of all the talent and utilizing it. For making the most of kyles system. At a HISTORIC level too.

i think CMC deserves more mvp consideration too. At least more than Dak and hurts.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
But it has been always about stats..
Lamar got it when he had the best stats, as did Cam, and I can go on. Why should this year be any different?

Also, people need to stop with the "generational offense, b******t", when did Kurt Warner win it? When he had talent around him. Same with Peyton manning & again, I can go on.
How about Mahomes right now? Why isn't he winning MVP if he's a generational talent, he should be throwing touchdowns all day long.
Hmmm well let me guess, he needs some players around him..

Ridiculous how people downplay how Purdy is playing right now.

I guarantee you if Trey Lance was doing what Purdy is doing right now Trey Lance would be the unanimous MVP… tell me I'm wrong.

Exactly!!! Hear hear.

It's hilarious because Deebo probably won't be in the hall of fame. Same with Aiyuk. Possibly not even Kittle. Whereas Kurt Warner DID have 2 HOF Wrs, a HOF RB and a HOF LT. Like you said Manning had numerous HOF players too.

People are so short sighted it's ridiculous the arguments they try to make to continue to push their narrative. They can't admit they are wrong. It's pathetic. Charles Davis manned up this weekend and said as much. Much respect.

I agree that If Lance was doing what Brock is doing (hell even 75% of what Brock is doing) - he would be raves about and considered the best thing since sliced bread.

like Jeepzilla said - it usually has to do with who has the best stats AND their team win/lose record - a big reason cam win it over Brady that year was cause they were 14-1.

It would be one thing if Brock's stats were average with this talent (like jimmys) but Brock does a ton of credit for taking advantage of all the talent and utilizing it. For making the most of kyles system. At a HISTORIC level too.

i think CMC deserves more mvp consideration too. At least more than Dak and hurts.

Brock was under tremendous pass rush pressure and CMC was only averaging 3.7 YPC after Trent Williams got injured during that 3 game skid. Trent imo is the true MVP of this team.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock was under tremendous pass rush pressure and CMC was only averaging 3.7 YPC after Trent Williams got injured during that 3 game skid. Trent imo is the true MVP of this team.

You can make a very good argument that Trent or CMC deserve to be considered MVP.

all I know is that Trent, CMC, Brock, Deebo etc are all incredibly important to what we do and enables Kyle to call the offense the way he does - without one of those guys, the entire play calling changes.

the QB position will always get the most credit, and probably right fully so. I don't think Trent should be overall MVP because his replacement is awful (not even close to serviceable) but he is insanely good and enables us to do what we do.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock was under tremendous pass rush pressure and CMC was only averaging 3.7 YPC after Trent Williams got injured during that 3 game skid. Trent imo is the true MVP of this team.

You can make a very good argument that Trent or CMC deserve to be considered MVP.

all I know is that Trent, CMC, Brock, Deebo etc are all incredibly important to what we do and enables Kyle to call the offense the way he does - without one of those guys, the entire play calling changes.

the QB position will always get the most credit, and probably right fully so. I don't think Trent should be overall MVP because his replacement is awful (not even close to serviceable) but he is insanely good and enables us to do what we do.

I am not saying Deebo isn't important. However, Brock didn't have Deebo for 3 games last season but still averaged 245 passing yards per game, 6 TD's, 2 INT's and the offense averaged 32 ppg.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock was under tremendous pass rush pressure and CMC was only averaging 3.7 YPC after Trent Williams got injured during that 3 game skid. Trent imo is the true MVP of this team.

You can make a very good argument that Trent or CMC deserve to be considered MVP.

all I know is that Trent, CMC, Brock, Deebo etc are all incredibly important to what we do and enables Kyle to call the offense the way he does - without one of those guys, the entire play calling changes.

the QB position will always get the most credit, and probably right fully so. I don't think Trent should be overall MVP because his replacement is awful (not even close to serviceable) but he is insanely good and enables us to do what we do.

I am not saying Deebo isn't important. However, Brock didn't have Deebo for 3 games last season but still averaged 245 passing yards per game, 6 TD's, 2 INT's and the offense averaged 32 ppg.

Having a healthy Trent Williams definitely helped

We saw what things looked like without Brock Purdy in the NFC title game last year and again briefly during last weekend's Cardinals game. That tells me all I need to know. Which isn't to diminish the importance of all the other pieces, but we can get by without one of them for a bit, whereas without Brock Purdy our goose is cooked.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock was under tremendous pass rush pressure and CMC was only averaging 3.7 YPC after Trent Williams got injured during that 3 game skid. Trent imo is the true MVP of this team.

You can make a very good argument that Trent or CMC deserve to be considered MVP.

all I know is that Trent, CMC, Brock, Deebo etc are all incredibly important to what we do and enables Kyle to call the offense the way he does - without one of those guys, the entire play calling changes.

the QB position will always get the most credit, and probably right fully so. I don't think Trent should be overall MVP because his replacement is awful (not even close to serviceable) but he is insanely good and enables us to do what we do.

I am not saying Deebo isn't important. However, Brock didn't have Deebo for 3 games last season but still averaged 245 passing yards per game, 6 TD's, 2 INT's and the offense averaged 32 ppg.

Do I think deebo is nearly as important as Trent, CMC, or Brock? Not at all. He's probably the least important of them all but what I'm saying is that they're all important to what we do in their own way.

the way deebo contributes in the run game is huge for kyles play calling. The way deebo contributes in the pass game is huge for kyles play calling. He can be used interchangeably and that makes everyone Else's job on offense easier.

i think the most important guy is the QB. What Brock had done is incredible and the most important/difficult job in sports. Then CMC/Trent - without either of those guys, the whole offense struggles.

if we lose trent, CMC, or Brock in the playoffs (not all but just one) I don't really like our chances in the playoffs. That's how important they are to this team.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
But it has been always about stats..
Lamar got it when he had the best stats, as did Cam, and I can go on. Why should this year be any different?

Also, people need to stop with the "generational offense, b******t", when did Kurt Warner win it? When he had talent around him. Same with Peyton manning & again, I can go on.
How about Mahomes right now? Why isn't he winning MVP if he's a generational talent, he should be throwing touchdowns all day long.
Hmmm well let me guess, he needs some players around him..

Ridiculous how people downplay how Purdy is playing right now.

I guarantee you if Trey Lance was doing what Purdy is doing right now Trey Lance would be the unanimous MVP… tell me I'm wrong.

Exactly!!! Hear hear.

It's hilarious because Deebo probably won't be in the hall of fame. Same with Aiyuk. Possibly not even Kittle. Whereas Kurt Warner DID have 2 HOF Wrs, a HOF RB and a HOF LT. Like you said Manning had numerous HOF players too.

People are so short sighted it's ridiculous the arguments they try to make to continue to push their narrative. They can't admit they are wrong. It's pathetic. Charles Davis manned up this weekend and said as much. Much respect.

I think dismissing Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle as potential HOFs is premature.

Deebo just set the record for most rushing TDs by a WR in league history. His receiving stats still pale in comparison to other HOF WRs, but the voters will often side with guys who had periods of domination. If this team can win at least one Super Bowl with Deebo as the dynamic engine of the offense, he will put himself up there.

Kittle currently sits 18th on the All-Time list for receiving yards by a TE and he has played less games than anyone who ranks in the top 30 by far. If he played 4 more years and averaged 500 yards receiving in those years he'd still finish his career in the top 10. He's definitely HOF worthy.

Aiyuk has the toughest hill to climb. The WR stats in the NFL are some of the most absurd numbers. Mike Evans has like 10 straight 1K receiving years and he isn't in the top 25 all time. Aiyuk will need to keep doing what he is doing for another 10-12 years to even make a dent. That said, championships are the easiest way to by-pass the stats. Be a guy who scores in multiple Super Bowls and you move up the voter's list.

Originally posted by Karma:
I think dismissing Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle as potential HOFs is premature.

Deebo just set the record for most rushing TDs by a WR in league history. His receiving stats still pale in comparison to other HOF WRs, but the voters will often side with guys who had periods of domination. If this team can win at least one Super Bowl with Deebo as the dynamic engine of the offense, he will put himself up there.

Kittle currently sits 18th on the All-Time list for receiving yards by a TE and he has played less games than anyone who ranks in the top 30 by far. If he played 4 more years and averaged 500 yards receiving in those years he'd still finish his career in the top 10. He's definitely HOF worthy.

Aiyuk has the toughest hill to climb. The WR stats in the NFL are some of the most absurd numbers. Mike Evans has like 10 straight 1K receiving years and he isn't in the top 25 all time. Aiyuk will need to keep doing what he is doing for another 10-12 years to even make a dent. That said, championships are the easiest way to by-pass the stats. Be a guy who scores in multiple Super Bowls and you move up the voter's list.

I think Kittle has a great chance to make the HOF if he plays at a high level for 5 or so more years. I think Trent will make the HOF and I think CMC has a great chance to make it if he can string together a few more great seasons.

i don't see Aiyuk or deebo making it at this rate but it's too early to call.

I personally can see Aiyuk, deebo, Trent, and CMC easily making the niners HOF.

I'll take a Julian Edelman type career from Aiyuk! (All time great in the playoffs).

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree and I'll just add one other thing. Brock did sit on the bench for a bit, and he had a role model in Jimmy who also learned how to prepare and get ready for the game from watching Tom Brady. I don't think it's very appreciated that basically Jimmy did help Purdy acclimate to the NFL via how to do his routines like film watching, preparing game plans and the like - again, from the perspective of a Tom Bradly level of excellence. Now, Jimmy is not gunning for the MVP - but he's played an important but (I think) unappreciated role in the development of Brock.

I don't think Jimmy had any part whatsoever in Brock's development.

probably with the playbook, terminology, etc. not about actually playing qb

Apparently Jimmy wouldn't even help Brock with his QB sneak. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but to me Brock made it sound like Jimmy didn't help him much at all.

Jimmy was with Tom for three years, I'm pretty sure Brock asked Jimmy for stories of Tom and how he prepared and did things, and also watched Jimmy and how he did things. And what Jimmy did in preparation for games and whatnot, I'm pretty sure, was also influenced by Tom. So I think Jimmy did a lot directly *and indirectly* to help Purdy become who he is right now. Doesn't mean that Brock is dependent Soley on Jimmy, but I think Jimmy does play an important part in helping Brock become who he is right now - which is the 2nd coming of Tom Brady.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree and I'll just add one other thing. Brock did sit on the bench for a bit, and he had a role model in Jimmy who also learned how to prepare and get ready for the game from watching Tom Brady. I don't think it's very appreciated that basically Jimmy did help Purdy acclimate to the NFL via how to do his routines like film watching, preparing game plans and the like - again, from the perspective of a Tom Bradly level of excellence. Now, Jimmy is not gunning for the MVP - but he's played an important but (I think) unappreciated role in the development of Brock.

IIRC Brock did credit seeing and learning how Jimmy and Lance prepared for a game each week.

The difference between Jimmy Trey and Brock, is that Brock has the processor and skillset to surpass both Jimmy and Trey (at this point in Trey's career). But I think guys like Tom and Joe set the standards of QB excellence - so Brock gets *BOTH.* Joe, Steve, Jeff are all available to talk to if he needed to speak to them - probably pretty easily. Tom's influence and standards would have been available through Jimmy. Brock talking to Brees in the Super Bowl is another way Drew Brees helped Brock, specially with Drew's extensive experience in dealing with Arm injuries at the NFL level early in his career. Same with Nick Mullens and his elbow surgery. Brock absorbs info from everybody - his processor is great that way.

I didn't know that Tom Brady gets a vote on mvp - I wonder why that is? I guess I'm asking what the criteria is to get an MVP vote? Is it like the heisman where past winners get a vote?

"The challenge for the voters this year comes from ranking the various 49ers candidates (Purdy, McCaffrey, Williams, and receiver Deebo Samuel), and balancing them against the likes of Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, Bills quarterback Josh Allen, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill, Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott, and perhaps even Browns defensive end Myles Garrett and Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield.

It will become more clear once the playoff trees are set in both conference. The voters list five finalst in all, ranking them first through fifth. Will the 49ers players split the votes enough to open the door for someone like Lamar Jackson? It all comes down to how the next three weeks play out."

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
High school Purdy. This was an absolutely epic match-up between Purdy's school Perry and Hamilton, a massive high school football powerhouse out here that featured a much more highly regarded and recruited QB in Tyler Shough who would end up at Oregon but has bounced around since.



They would have a rematch a few years later when Oregon played Iowa State at the Fiesta Bowl in Glendale and Purdy came out on top again.

He catches a touchdown on the play at 5:05 in the HS matchup lol!

At this point, I'd be shocked If this guy doesn't win MVP. We are so blessed to have Brock as our QB.