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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Naa. That was the problem with Martyball. You win in the regular season playing conservatively, but when there's no tomorrow, teams pull out all the stops and take chances. You just can't get through the playoffs if you don't let it rip too, and he wouldn't.

I think his rap was very well earned.

He was snakebit. He once lost a playoff game 10-7 where his otherwise reliable kicker missed three FGs under 45 yards. There was always some ridiculous turnover, a bad call or something else that happened. I always felt bad for the guy because he seemed like a genuinely great coach.

So, he scored 7 points in a playoff game? As the great Mike Singletary so succinctly taught us, "you just don't screw it up, and my defense will win it in the 4th quarter." Certainly after they opened up the rules on the passing game, that just was no longer a winning formula. Schottenheimer was a defensive guy, and boy, did it show.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Man o man, we lost Steve Young to concussion injuries. Steve could have played till he was 40, in my opinion, but for those darn concussion injuries that accumulated on him.

That's not exactly what happened. Young was cleared within a couple weeks of his 1999 concussion, but the team refused to play him for PR reasons. Mike Shanahan approached him that offseason to come QB the Broncos after Elway's retirement. Young considered it, but decided not to, because 1. He felt it would be odd to not be a Niner, 2. He had just got married and had many non-NFL options (being a law grad, investments, etc.). Per Young, the concussions weren't really a factor. If anything the Niners refusing to allow him back onto the field is what allowed him to consider Shanahan's offer.

This is all from Young's book from a few years back, which is a must-read for any 49er fan, IMO.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Man o man, we lost Steve Young to concussion injuries. Steve could have played till he was 40, in my opinion, but for those darn concussion injuries that accumulated on him.

That's not exactly what happened. Young was cleared within a couple weeks of his 1999 concussion, but the team refused to play him for PR reasons. Mike Shanahan approached him that offseason to come QB the Broncos after Elway's retirement. Young considered it, but decided not to, because 1. He felt it would be odd to not be a Niner, 2. He had just got married and had many non-NFL options (being a law grad, investments, etc.). Per Young, the concussions weren't really a factor. If anything the Niners refusing to allow him back onto the field is what allowed him to consider Shanahan's offer.

This is all from Young's book from a few years back, which is a must-read for any 49er fan, IMO.

It's crazy how NFL old is still real life young. He had aspiring career aspirations even after his hall of fame NFL tenure
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by tankle104:

lmao watch Brendel - he got beat and then just walks away looking away from everyone. Wtf is he doing? Lmao

He probably felt horrible that he just got his QB sacked and was shocked when he found out Purdy just threw a TD.

I remember thinking he may have gotten away with a slight hold so he was also bracing for/looking for the flag.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Man o man, we lost Steve Young to concussion injuries. Steve could have played till he was 40, in my opinion, but for those darn concussion injuries that accumulated on him.

That's not exactly what happened. Young was cleared within a couple weeks of his 1999 concussion, but the team refused to play him for PR reasons. Mike Shanahan approached him that offseason to come QB the Broncos after Elway's retirement. Young considered it, but decided not to, because 1. He felt it would be odd to not be a Niner, 2. He had just got married and had many non-NFL options (being a law grad, investments, etc.). Per Young, the concussions weren't really a factor. If anything the Niners refusing to allow him back onto the field is what allowed him to consider Shanahan's offer.

This is all from Young's book from a few years back, which is a must-read for any 49er fan, IMO.

Which still doesn't defeat my point that Steve could still physically play the position at age 38+. Point being, nowadays, Brock *can* play till he's 40+ with the rules the way they are now. Now its just a matter of drafting a Hall of Fame Offensive Line, that will keep him upright until he's 50.
Wonder where old dips**t Ruiz is gonna place Purdy after this week. I'm enjoying the shadenfreude of this dude stepping in s**t week after week.

Originally posted by tankle104:

lmao watch Brendel - he got beat and then just walks away looking away from everyone. Wtf is he doing? Lmao

I loved the comment that said something like, "CMC was so wide open, he was able to take a nap before going in for the td." haha
f**k all these attention seeking haters. Offense has been lights out and team is trending in the right direction. Number 1 seed is in sight. The Focus is on the Lombardi and everything else is gravy.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Man o man, we lost Steve Young to concussion injuries. Steve could have played till he was 40, in my opinion, but for those darn concussion injuries that accumulated on him.

That's not exactly what happened. Young was cleared within a couple weeks of his 1999 concussion, but the team refused to play him for PR reasons. Mike Shanahan approached him that offseason to come QB the Broncos after Elway's retirement. Young considered it, but decided not to, because 1. He felt it would be odd to not be a Niner, 2. He had just got married and had many non-NFL options (being a law grad, investments, etc.). Per Young, the concussions weren't really a factor. If anything the Niners refusing to allow him back onto the field is what allowed him to consider Shanahan's offer.

This is all from Young's book from a few years back, which is a must-read for any 49er fan, IMO.

Which still doesn't defeat my point that Steve could still physically play the position at age 38+. Point being, nowadays, Brock *can* play till he's 40+ with the rules the way they are now. Now its just a matter of drafting a Hall of Fame Offensive Line, that will keep him upright until he's 50.

I agree with that point. Just wanted to clarify that the concussions were not why Young decided to hang 'em up.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Don't forget the Buttocks! One Buttocks equals two Knees!

madden woulda circled the one butt cheek
I just want to throw out a question. Most football people think the Niners have the best roster not only for the starters but also in depth. They often point out that they have a starting QB performing at a high level that's not being paid much which allows them to sign or keep players like Bosa, Willams, CMC and Deebo that might be gone if they were paying the QB $35-40 mil per year.

The Niners have Brock for 2 more seasons at a low rate. If he continues to play well I assume they'll try and resign him but what if they elect to go with another young player so they can keep all the talent around him. Other teams will try and copy this if it works out long term. The days of looking for a QB that can lead the team for 15-20 seasons may be over because of the crazy high salaries they are demanding. No QB can win without tlented supporting players both on offense and defense.

Look at Mahomes this year. As good as he is he has no receivers worth a damn. Kelce isn't playing as well and the WRs are dropping as many as they catch. Herbert has no running game and one WR. The results have been so-so. Then you look at Miami that's loaded at every position on offense and Tua is having a good year. Before they got Hill and Achane the only real threat was waddle. Now they look like the Niners with all their weapons.

It's going to be interesting to see how many teams stay with their high paid QBs if they don't win. I know the chances of finding another Purdy so late in the draft are slim but even a first round QB is going to be cheap compared to a guy like Rodgers or Stafford. The Chiefs have 29% of their payroll tied up with Mahomes ($37 mil and Chris Jones at $27 mil). It's hard to build or sustain a team when that much is tied up in your QB and a DT.
Stop posting that creep. No more Ruiz. No more. He's awful. Please stop putting his crap in here guys.

[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Dec 19, 2023 at 1:24 PM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just want to throw out a question. Most football people think the Niners have the best roster not only for the starters but also in depth. They often point out that they have a starting QB performing at a high level that's not being paid much which allows them to sign or keep players like Bosa, Willams, CMC and Deebo that might be gone if they were paying the QB $35-40 mil per year.

The Niners have Brock for 2 more seasons at a low rate. If he continues to play well I assume they'll try and resign him but what if they elect to go with another young player so they can keep all the talent around him. Other teams will try and copy this if it works out long term. The days of looking for a QB that can lead the team for 15-20 seasons may be over because of the crazy high salaries they are demanding. No QB can win without tlented supporting players both on offense and defense.

Look at Mahomes this year. As good as he is he has no receivers worth a damn. Kelce isn't playing as well and the WRs are dropping as many as they catch. Herbert has no running game and one WR. The results have been so-so. Then you look at Miami that's loaded at every position on offense and Tua is having a good year. Before they got Hill and Achane the only real threat was waddle. Now they look like the Niners with all their weapons.

It's going to be interesting to see how many teams stay with their high paid QBs if they don't win. I know the chances of finding another Purdy so late in the draft are slim but even a first round QB is going to be cheap compared to a guy like Rodgers or Stafford. The Chiefs have 29% of their payroll tied up with Mahomes ($37 mil and Chris Jones at $27 mil). It's hard to build or sustain a team when that much is tied up in your QB and a DT.

You mean, hypothetically, move on from Purdy at the end of his deal and just find another QB, just so we can keep all our stars?
I see the reasoning. The Seahawks were always contenders during the Russell Wilson years, but just didn't have as complete a roster when he signed his mega deal.

But the thing is... eventually we'll need to move on from CMC, Deebo, Kittle, etc., depending on how well they age and what their contract demands are. When it comes to Purdy's re-signing, we're going to look at a player we want to have in the building for the next couple years, and then the older stars will eventually leave the team. No guarantee that we can retain/replace weapons on offense either, but we'll still have Purdy.

And simply put... it's hard enough to find a QB. This organization invested 3 first rounders to try and find a franchise QB, and were fortunate we found one with the last pick in the draft the following year. Maybe we can find a young QB at a bargain, but we're seeing that there's a difference between a mid-tier QB and a SPECIAL QB like Brock Purdy.
[ Edited by Wubbie on Dec 19, 2023 at 1:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just want to throw out a question. Most football people think the Niners have the best roster not only for the starters but also in depth. They often point out that they have a starting QB performing at a high level that's not being paid much which allows them to sign or keep players like Bosa, Willams, CMC and Deebo that might be gone if they were paying the QB $35-40 mil per year.

The Niners have Brock for 2 more seasons at a low rate. If he continues to play well I assume they'll try and resign him but what if they elect to go with another young player so they can keep all the talent around him. Other teams will try and copy this if it works out long term. The days of looking for a QB that can lead the team for 15-20 seasons may be over because of the crazy high salaries they are demanding. No QB can win without tlented supporting players both on offense and defense.

Look at Mahomes this year. As good as he is he has no receivers worth a damn. Kelce isn't playing as well and the WRs are dropping as many as they catch. Herbert has no running game and one WR. The results have been so-so. Then you look at Miami that's loaded at every position on offense and Tua is having a good year. Before they got Hill and Achane the only real threat was waddle. Now they look like the Niners with all their weapons.

It's going to be interesting to see how many teams stay with their high paid QBs if they don't win. I know the chances of finding another Purdy so late in the draft are slim but even a first round QB is going to be cheap compared to a guy like Rodgers or Stafford. The Chiefs have 29% of their payroll tied up with Mahomes ($37 mil and Chris Jones at $27 mil). It's hard to build or sustain a team when that much is tied up in your QB and a DT.

It's a real question that teams have to ask themselves when it's time to pay their FQB. The lesson is they must be sure the QB is actually good and not make mistakes like signing Daniel Jones, Hurts, Tannehill to contracts they don't deserve. It's also not easy to build a roster that has premier players at WR, TE, and RB, and all the defensive positions like what the 49ers have, and you can make an argument that it's harder to do that since there are so many positions that you have to hit on simultaneously so they are all on the roster, in or near their prime. That's why securing the true FQB is so important towards longevity and consistency.

Mahomes is an example of signing a big contract then struggling to fill out the roster, but imo, KC has done the hard part, which is find the FQB. Now they need to draft better to give Mahomes support. The flip side is something like PIT, a team with a good roster but the QBs are terrible. There's some stat out there where if a team is devoting 25% of the cap to a QB, only one team has won the SB (Brees?). Maybe it was Brady. Something like that.
Originally posted by Chance:
Wonder where old dips**t Ruiz is gonna place Purdy after this week. I'm enjoying the shadenfreude of this dude stepping in s**t week after week.


watch he'll put Cam Newton ahead of Brock
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