QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Niners99:
lol why would Demeco ruin his HC opportunity by taking the Texans job? That organization is a mess.

Colts incoming

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, from what I've read - the issue was his best year was his sophomore year and even though he was good his final two years, he didn't improve the way people expected.

That is a red flag, so I get that knock against him. I'm curious what the reasons are though. I imagine part of it is the talent around him, but idk.

i dont think thats it in college at a pretty good school if you are uber talented you will show up on tape no matter what.

What he excels at is what's hardest for some of these QBs to learn because they got by on talent which is reading the field and making good decisions. He came in and is helped by a great QB friendly scheme and a lot of tlaented players but the fact he can run this offense pretty much like a veteran is why he is excelling

but also keep in mind like the knock on him he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire like Mahomes he pretty much is coming and and playing extremally efficient like Jimmy (very similar stats and effiency which both are top 5 in NFL) however the difference is Brock is more willing to throw it down field (at the slight trade off of missing some throws Jimmy makes) but overall there has been no drop off between Jimmy and him

its crazy cause Trey still has the higher upside there is no question but right now Brock is the better QB (which is why i thought we were the better team with Jimmy as QB over Trey)

Originally posted by ritz126:
i dont think thats it in college at a pretty good school if you are uber talented you will show up on tape no matter what.

What he excels at is what's hardest for some of these QBs to learn because they got by on talent which is reading the field and making good decisions. He came in and is helped by a great QB friendly scheme and a lot of tlaented players but the fact he can run this offense pretty much like a veteran is why he is excelling

but also keep in mind like the knock on him he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire like Mahomes he pretty much is coming and and playing extremally efficient like Jimmy (very similar stats and effiency which both are top 5 in NFL) however the difference is Brock is more willing to throw it down field (at the slight trade off of missing some throws Jimmy makes) but overall there has been no drop off between Jimmy and him

its crazy cause Trey still has the higher upside there is no question but right now Brock is the better QB (which is why i thought we were the better team with Jimmy as QB over Trey)

Draft Grayson McCall and make things really spicy.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, from what I've read - the issue was his best year was his sophomore year and even though he was good his final two years, he didn't improve the way people expected.

That is a red flag, so I get that knock against him. I'm curious what the reasons are though. I imagine part of it is the talent around him, but idk.

i dont think thats it in college at a pretty good school if you are uber talented you will show up on tape no matter what.

What he excels at is what's hardest for some of these QBs to learn because they got by on talent which is reading the field and making good decisions. He came in and is helped by a great QB friendly scheme and a lot of tlaented players but the fact he can run this offense pretty much like a veteran is why he is excelling

but also keep in mind like the knock on him he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire like Mahomes he pretty much is coming and and playing extremally efficient like Jimmy (very similar stats and effiency which both are top 5 in NFL) however the difference is Brock is more willing to throw it down field (at the slight trade off of missing some throws Jimmy makes) but overall there has been no drop off between Jimmy and him

its crazy cause Trey still has the higher upside there is no question but right now Brock is the better QB (which is why i thought we were the better team with Jimmy as QB over Trey)

Mahomes 1st and only start his rookie season he was 22/35 284 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT and 4 of 11 on 3rd down. He didn't exactly light the world on fire his rookie season either.

Originally posted by Niners99:

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Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
He did play for Houston most of his career and the Texans currently on track to have #1 pick…they also have a buncha picks from the Browns via the Deshaun Watson trade

Hmm…stars would have to align and that's IF the Niners would wanna trade Lance as a parting gift to Demeco, or Demeco hooks the Niners up by taking that trade and sparing the team all that drama. Depends also on what QBs are coming out in the 2023 draft (and if the Texans even wanna draft one)

This prob needs its own thread when the time comes…

Lance would be a 20+ million dead cap hit. We aren't trading him.

Bumping this so people can stop the conversation of trading Trey

You might have to say it louder for those in the back not listening.

So dumb. Cap issues aside we have no idea what Brock or Lance are long-term. Brock could be Joe Montana or he could be Keenum/Heinicke. Lance could be Jordan love or he could be Jalen Hurts.

we also know we go through QBs like water. So eat $20M on a kid we started for a little over 4QRs THEN pay legit money for a vet "backup"? All while trying to pay Bosa, upgrade RT, along with other positions? Let's stop being silly

Totally agreed.

Lance's dead cap would only be 11 million if traded (before June 1st. 5.5 after) The 20 million dead cap is if he was released. Which isn't going to happen. Which neither is trading him so it's all moot

Trading Lance makes no sense. He hasn't proven anything so his value will be reduced below what the 49ers think of him. They have him under contract for 3 more years. As they've shown, they like to keep as many quality QB as possible because of injuries.

Exactly! We are down to our 3rd QB and just a hit away from playing All World Josh Johnson that we just signed couple of weeks ago. We also know that Jimmy G is gone next year and now we are trading Lance who's on a rookie contract that we are slowly grooming and hasn't gotten his opportunity? LOL! Love, love Purdy..but to me he's still a rookie and hasn't proven anything and how durable he is moving forward the way he takes hits in his first few games. Now if you tell me, trade Lance and Brady wants to be the backup in his last year, that would be spicy and I might go hmm...(joke). Let Purdy and Lance battle it out next year.

Perfect song for trade chat

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by Niners99:

lol why would Demeco ruin his HC opportunity by taking the Texans job? That organization is a mess.

Colts incoming

Colts are a disaster too right now.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Mahomes 1st and only start his rookie season he was 22/35 284 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT and 4 of 11 on 3rd down. He didn't exactly light the world on fire his rookie season either.

Did you watch that game? It was the last game of the season and rested their starters. Trust me, everyone knew Mahommes was special just from watching him in that one game.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Colts are a disaster too right now.

Coaching. That team will turn in time. Probably a good time to jump in (next season)

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Colts are a disaster too right now.

Coaching. That team will turn in time. Probably a good time to jump in (next season)

They are basically going through their Jim Tomsula phase right now.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Your comment is ridiculous. The team would be out of their minds not to TRY to extend Purdy for as cheaply as possible if he leads the team to a Super Bowl win. There are SEVERAL reasons.

You think a Super Bowl winning QB, who at this point, looks like an upgrade over two QBs making WAY more money than him isn't going to want to renegotiate?

Money in your hand has more value than money you may get in the future. Should Purdy lead the team to a ring, BOTH sides have incentive to renegotiate.

You can't extend someone on a rookie contract until their third year anyways so its not happening.

Yes, but I was wondering if it were possible to do a wink and nod move where they officially cut him and then sign him as a free agent. I imagine some sort of penalty could be possible.

You cut him, I'm pretty sure he goes through waivers

Ah sheet that's right forgot that one. I was under the impression that only applied during the season, but I think I'm mistaken on that.

It would be a dumb move to cut Brock and see if he survived waivers just to sign him to a better contract. How many NFL teams would be salivating to sign him before the waiver period expired. Yikes!

It's all hypocritical anyway, since he can't negotiate until after year three, as Phoenix pointed out.

But even so, unless he's putting up elite numbers, no one is going to pay him elite money—ESPECIALLY since he's proving that Jimmy's "just wins" has more to do with Kyle Shanahan than many around here thought. If he starts the next two years years, he's obviously getting starter money, but if he plays as he has been, he's not going to be getting trend setting money, nor should he, and going from making 900-something thousand, I don't think he'd cry making low end to mid range starter money.

Trey Lance is still an obstacle to him getting top dollar, and he'll have to successfully beat him off in camp going forward (something some have been trying to do to Jimmy for years).

Purdy won't have to beat Lance off in training camp if he keeps going the way he is. He already has the starter's job and will retain it until he loses his mojo.

Purdy is NFL ready right now. Trey is not. Kyle is not going to give him another chance to start and waste the talent on the roster in the hope he becomes NFL ready in a couple of games or half a season.

If you look who is the most efficient QB on the team it is still JG. He is 2nd most efficient behind Mahomes. If you go of the last hundred plays for QBs in the league then it is JG, Mahomes and Purdy. This is in the league. Trey does not even rank. He has barely a 50% completion rate in 3 and a 1/4 games. He loses more than he wins. While JG is more efficient Purdy is more explosive over 10 yards which opens up a rush to the end zone, of schedule plays and more boot legs. Trey can only offer some longer passes but is less accurate than Purdy and thus will complete less longer passes. This results in more yardage per game to Purdy. No way in Hades Trey walks into the starter's role next season unless Purdy completely flops and all the signs are saying he won't.

Except that is misleading. Purdy's yards/attempt is 7.3. Trey's is 7.8. The only reasons Purdy has a higher yards per start is (1) he played nearly al of the Dolphins game and (2) Trey runs the ball a lot more.

Anyway, unless Purdy plays like a top QB for the remainder of the season, Trey will have a chance to win he job. You can talk about what came before until Jesus comes back. What matters is who looks better in camp next year. Do I think it will be Trey? No. But that's all he needs to do to get back the job: look better.

Looking good in camp and being NFL ready are two different things. One of the two is NFL ready the other is not. I will let you guess who they are. If Purdy plays the way he has in the last three games and does not even improve 1 inch or 1 completion percentage, he will be the starter next year.

Why is this being discussed in any capacity right now? We are in the middle of a super bowl run and looking like the best team in the league. Who gives a f**k about next year?!? We have talent throughout the team that will work itself to the top when it needs too. Enjoy the ride. You'll have 5 months to go over this s**t everyday.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Mahomes 1st and only start his rookie season he was 22/35 284 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT and 4 of 11 on 3rd down. He didn't exactly light the world on fire his rookie season either.

Did you watch that game? It was the last game of the season and rested their starters. Trust me, everyone knew Mahommes was special just from watching him in that one game.

He was special at what in that one game? He did not beat out Alex Smith for the starting job and whispers from the locker room were that he wasn't all that good as a rookie. His arm talent helped him overcome a lot of his inefficiencies and it took him how long to learn how to read NFL defenses? No doubt about it that his second year was a breakout year and he has been on fire ever since but hindsight is always 20/20.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Mahomes 1st and only start his rookie season he was 22/35 284 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT and 4 of 11 on 3rd down. He didn't exactly light the world on fire his rookie season either.

Did you watch that game? It was the last game of the season and rested their starters. Trust me, everyone knew Mahommes was special just from watching him in that one game.

That was the game that convinced Reid/Veach it was time to trade Alex Smith.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Colts are a disaster too right now.

Coaching. That team will turn in time. Probably a good time to jump in (next season)

They are basically going through their Jim Tomsula phase right now.

Guess they still need to go through their Chip Kelly Phase.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Mahomes 1st and only start his rookie season he was 22/35 284 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT and 4 of 11 on 3rd down. He didn't exactly light the world on fire his rookie season either.

Did you watch that game? It was the last game of the season and rested their starters. Trust me, everyone knew Mahommes was special just from watching him in that one game.

He was special at what in that one game? He did not beat out Alex Smith for the starting job and whispers from the locker room were that he wasn't all that good as a rookie. His arm talent helped him overcome a lot of his inefficiencies and it took him how long to learn how to read NFL defenses? No doubt about it that his second year was a breakout year and he has been on fire ever since but hindsight is always 20/20.

I just disagree with you. Mahommes looked like he belonged in the NFL and was making some amazing throws. Obviously, no one knew he would be as good as he was. That whole year there were reports coming out of training camp and practices that Mahommes was ballin.

so I really have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe short of his first start, but from day 1 of his first season starting he showed that he was the best QB on the team (arguably the league).

i wouldn't compare Lance and Mahommes. Mahommes was wowing people by his second start.. not wondering if he can play ball in this league.