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Nov 7, 2023 at 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

This is wrong. Just flat out wrong.

The 49ers are 4th in the entire league converting 3rd downs, converting at a 46.4% rate.

The 49ers are 21st in the entire league at stopping 3rd downs on defense, allowing a conversion 40.6% of the time (that number is slightly worse over our last 3 games).
lol, sounding like a Alex jimmy defender now i see.

did you even consider that we have the least 3rd down attempts ?

Avg 17 points a game in the last 3 games is not moving the ball


The offense tallied 460 yards in the last game.
yards don't count as points and it's doesn't tell the entire story.

moving the ball well would result in more points or at least more FG attempts if we can't capitalize on TDs

Yards aren't indicative of "Moving the Ball"?

I underlined the word "well" that you seemed to miss.

460 yards is 30 more than the average of the Dolphins, who are #1 in the NFL. Not sure what your definition of "well" is, but I think that's pretty good.

106 of those yards came on the last two drives when the game was effectively over.

That leaves 354 which is still 8th best in the NFL in terms of average. The Niners rank 4th in the NFL at 376.6 YPG. They move the ball very well.
They haven't moved the ball well the last month or it would give us more points than we are scoring the last month
Nov 7, 2023 at 11:25 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

This is wrong. Just flat out wrong.

The 49ers are 4th in the entire league converting 3rd downs, converting at a 46.4% rate.

The 49ers are 21st in the entire league at stopping 3rd downs on defense, allowing a conversion 40.6% of the time (that number is slightly worse over our last 3 games).
lol, sounding like a Alex jimmy defender now i see.

did you even consider that we have the least 3rd down attempts ?

Avg 17 points a game in the last 3 games is not moving the ball


The offense tallied 460 yards in the last game.
yards don't count as points and it's doesn't tell the entire story.

moving the ball well would result in more points or at least more FG attempts if we can't capitalize on TDs

Yards aren't indicative of "Moving the Ball"?

I underlined the word "well" that you seemed to miss.

460 yards is 30 more than the average of the Dolphins, who are #1 in the NFL. Not sure what your definition of "well" is, but I think that's pretty good.

106 of those yards came on the last two drives when the game was effectively over.

That leaves 354 which is still 8th best in the NFL in terms of average. The Niners rank 4th in the NFL at 376.6 YPG. They move the ball very well.
They haven't moved the ball well the last month or it would give us more points than we are scoring the last month

First half offense has been good, the issue has been TOs for the most part, missed FG, and penalties.

We'll be fine, I'm sure this we'll get cleaned up.
Nov 7, 2023 at 11:34 AM
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
First half offense has been good, the issue has been TOs for the most part, missed FG, and penalties.

We'll be fine, I'm sure this we'll get cleaned up.

I agree now take this and post in the Wilks thread
see what happens..
but it's true, we are too talented, and it will get fixed both sides of the football
Nov 7, 2023 at 11:48 AM
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

This is wrong. Just flat out wrong.

The 49ers are 4th in the entire league converting 3rd downs, converting at a 46.4% rate.

The 49ers are 21st in the entire league at stopping 3rd downs on defense, allowing a conversion 40.6% of the time (that number is slightly worse over our last 3 games).
lol, sounding like a Alex jimmy defender now i see.

did you even consider that we have the least 3rd down attempts ?

Avg 17 points a game in the last 3 games is not moving the ball


The offense tallied 460 yards in the last game.
yards don't count as points and it's doesn't tell the entire story.

moving the ball well would result in more points or at least more FG attempts if we can't capitalize on TDs

Yards aren't indicative of "Moving the Ball"?

I underlined the word "well" that you seemed to miss.

460 yards is 30 more than the average of the Dolphins, who are #1 in the NFL. Not sure what your definition of "well" is, but I think that's pretty good.

106 of those yards came on the last two drives when the game was effectively over.

That leaves 354 which is still 8th best in the NFL in terms of average. The Niners rank 4th in the NFL at 376.6 YPG. They move the ball very well.
They haven't moved the ball well the last month or it would give us more points than we are scoring the last month

First half offense has been good, the issue has been TOs for the most part, missed FG, and penalties.

We'll be fine, I'm sure this we'll get cleaned up.
I'm not so sure, they will need to show it. Hopefully the rest helps

two of the 3 losses came against well rested defenses off byes and we should have stayed in the Midwest for the Minn game
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:12 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ny this whole notion you have of limitations is pretty weak. You cling to the draft profile. Let's talk Zach Wilson limitations. Can't see the field, can't throw with anticipation or accuracy, can't lead men or a team, immature, doesn't know when to take something off the ball, and one can go on..

Heck Brady is the goat, he had limitations, he can't run like Vick or Josh Allen. I don't call any guy limited or this guy has limitations, unless the guy is so limited that he can't do the job. Like Z Wilson. Btw, Trey had major limitations, so limited he's no longer in town. KS saw the limitations and said this guy ain't it. Probably what NYJ should have done in the offseason with Zach. That's two top 3 overall pick guys. So limited they probably don't belong in the league. Favre had limitations,

we get it you like arm talent, most every QB has limitations, unless you truly want the elite QB who can move and throw like Elway, those guys aren't common, this is the best KS can do folks, Brock.

Limitations exist for damn near every player. No one is saying it doesn't. Trying to poo poo arm talent at a position where he literally is throwing a football is dumb.

he can't make plays that other elite QBs can make in todays game….Just doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Doesn't mean he sucks or can't be a good QB. The sooner you accept that is a limitation (and matters) vs downplaying the importance the better. Once he was named the guy. I accepted it…doesn't mean it's not an issue and never will be.

It's the same s**t ya'll tried to downplay with jimmy (for years) because he was the QB of the team you love. Dude can't push the ball downfield, especially on the outside. For years ya'll pretended it didn't matter. f**k we lost a Super Bowl in part because of it. Now look at JG. Benched after half a season away from SF. I will say even Brock is better at that than Jimmy.

Look I like Brock and he's got other attributes that matter a f**k ton. He can be successful here. He's also got a much less margin for error when the game plan gets moved around. We've seen that now for the past 3 games.
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:28 PM
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:34 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ny this whole notion you have of limitations is pretty weak. You cling to the draft profile. Let's talk Zach Wilson limitations. Can't see the field, can't throw with anticipation or accuracy, can't lead men or a team, immature, doesn't know when to take something off the ball, and one can go on..

Heck Brady is the goat, he had limitations, he can't run like Vick or Josh Allen. I don't call any guy limited or this guy has limitations, unless the guy is so limited that he can't do the job. Like Z Wilson. Btw, Trey had major limitations, so limited he's no longer in town. KS saw the limitations and said this guy ain't it. Probably what NYJ should have done in the offseason with Zach. That's two top 3 overall pick guys. So limited they probably don't belong in the league. Favre had limitations,

we get it you like arm talent, most every QB has limitations, unless you truly want the elite QB who can move and throw like Elway, those guys aren't common, this is the best KS can do folks, Brock.

Limitations exist for damn near every player. No one is saying it doesn't. Trying to poo poo arm talent at a position where he literally is throwing a football is dumb.

he can't make plays that other elite QBs can make in todays game….Just doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Doesn't mean he sucks or can't be a good QB. The sooner you accept that is a limitation (and matters) vs downplaying the importance the better. Once he was named the guy. I accepted it…doesn't mean it's not an issue and never will be.

It's the same s**t ya'll tried to downplay with jimmy (for years) because he was the QB of the team you love. Dude can't push the ball downfield, especially on the outside. For years ya'll pretended it didn't matter. f**k we lost a Super Bowl in part because of it. Now look at JG. Benched after half a season away from SF. I will say even Brock is better at that than Jimmy.

Look I like Brock and he's got other attributes that matter a f**k ton. He can be successful here. He's also got a much less margin for error when the game plan gets moved around. We've seen that now for the past 3 games.

he's not getting picked due to arm talent

for example, the Mitchell int, that was a bad decision, arm had nothing to do with it, throwing into a double coverage at the end vs MIN, arm talent wouldn't have saved that either, a CLE int that slipped out of his hand, not a arm talent issue, TL had it slipping out of his hand also in conditions, and you love his arm talent, right?

when QBs get down late, they have to make plays they normally don't have to make, Sam knows all about it he has plenty of arm talent, and has made the same dumb ints late in games. So your arm talent is the issue theory, doesn't ring true to me. Besides, his arm is fine. He can drive it, not like Elway or Kaepernick, but he's not Pennington either, in terms of his fastball.
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:39 PM
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:53 PM
Nov 7, 2023 at 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

forget this noise, what about the arm talent ranks
Nov 7, 2023 at 1:02 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

forget this noise, what about the arm talent ranks

According to one source, he has a bottom 3 arm talent
Nov 7, 2023 at 1:09 PM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Complete bs

i was told purdys arm isnt good enough to be grouped with these other QBs
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Nov 7, 2023 at 1:09 PM ]
Nov 7, 2023 at 1:09 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

forget this noise, what about the arm talent ranks



That's impressive company for sure 👍
Nov 7, 2023 at 1:13 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Complete bs

i was told purdys arm isnt good enough to be grouped with these other QBs

It's as if more than arm strength is needed at the QB position
Nov 7, 2023 at 1:13 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ny this whole notion you have of limitations is pretty weak. You cling to the draft profile. Let's talk Zach Wilson limitations. Can't see the field, can't throw with anticipation or accuracy, can't lead men or a team, immature, doesn't know when to take something off the ball, and one can go on..

Heck Brady is the goat, he had limitations, he can't run like Vick or Josh Allen. I don't call any guy limited or this guy has limitations, unless the guy is so limited that he can't do the job. Like Z Wilson. Btw, Trey had major limitations, so limited he's no longer in town. KS saw the limitations and said this guy ain't it. Probably what NYJ should have done in the offseason with Zach. That's two top 3 overall pick guys. So limited they probably don't belong in the league. Favre had limitations,

we get it you like arm talent, most every QB has limitations, unless you truly want the elite QB who can move and throw like Elway, those guys aren't common, this is the best KS can do folks, Brock.

Limitations exist for damn near every player. No one is saying it doesn't. Trying to poo poo arm talent at a position where he literally is throwing a football is dumb.

he can't make plays that other elite QBs can make in todays game….Just doesn't have that tool in his tool belt. Doesn't mean he sucks or can't be a good QB. The sooner you accept that is a limitation (and matters) vs downplaying the importance the better. Once he was named the guy. I accepted it…doesn't mean it's not an issue and never will be.

It's the same s**t ya'll tried to downplay with jimmy (for years) because he was the QB of the team you love. Dude can't push the ball downfield, especially on the outside. For years ya'll pretended it didn't matter. f**k we lost a Super Bowl in part because of it. Now look at JG. Benched after half a season away from SF. I will say even Brock is better at that than Jimmy.

Look I like Brock and he's got other attributes that matter a f**k ton. He can be successful here. He's also got a much less margin for error when the game plan gets moved around. We've seen that now for the past 3 games.

he's not getting picked due to arm talent

for example, the Mitchell int, that was a bad decision, arm had nothing to do with it, throwing into a double coverage at the end vs MIN, arm talent wouldn't have saved that either, a CLE int that slipped out of his hand, not a arm talent issue, TL had it slipping out of his hand also in conditions, and you love his arm talent, right?

when QBs get down late, they have to make plays they normally don't have to make, Sam knows all about it he has plenty of arm talent, and has made the same dumb ints late in games. So your arm talent is the issue theory, doesn't ring true to me. Besides, his arm is fine. He can drive it, not like Elway or Kaepernick, but he's not Pennington either, in terms of his fastball.
I don't agree about the arm thing, I also disagree with being down late Purdy had to go YOLO

being down 7 or less with plenty of time is not yolo time
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