Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Sep 21, 2023 at 11:25 AM ]
Originally posted by Giedi:
Shorter passes are easier to complete than longer passes, and you can have a greater margin of error and *still complete* those shorter passes. Longer passes don't have that same margin of error.
Those quick timing routes need to be on the money. He seems much more confident there and you can see it in his footwork.
Those deeper passes don't have to be perfect to be completions. Like JTO said they're all long foul balls that come out flat, the footwork isn't as good. He needs to develop in that area to take the next step.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Shorter passes are easier to complete than longer passes, and you can have a greater margin of error and *still complete* those shorter passes. Longer passes don't have that same margin of error.
Those quick timing routes need to be on the money. He seems much more confident there and you can see it in his footwork.
Those deeper passes don't have to be perfect to be completions. Like JTO said they're all long foul balls that come out flat, the footwork isn't as good. He needs to develop in that area to take the next step.
And that's not a bad thing considering he is like 10 games in. I think we are all harping on it because we all know if he gets accurate deep the dude is simply serious trouble to contend with. I would assume they will be working on this.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Shorter passes are easier to complete than longer passes, and you can have a greater margin of error and *still complete* those shorter passes. Longer passes don't have that same margin of error.
Those quick timing routes need to be on the money. He seems much more confident there and you can see it in his footwork.
Those deeper passes don't have to be perfect to be completions. Like JTO said they're all long foul balls that come out flat, the footwork isn't as good. He needs to develop in that area to take the next step.
And that's not a bad thing considering he is like 10 games in. I think we are all harping on it because we all know if he gets accurate deep the dude is simply serious trouble to contend with. I would assume they will be working on this.
he was throwing with anticipation all game, he miscalculated the deep ones. no biggie
Originally posted by Giedi:
Shorter passes are easier to complete than longer passes, and you can have a greater margin of error and *still complete* those shorter passes. Longer passes don't have that same margin of error.
Those quick timing routes need to be on the money. He seems much more confident there and you can see it in his footwork.
Those deeper passes don't have to be perfect to be completions. Like JTO said they're all long foul balls that come out flat, the footwork isn't as good. He needs to develop in that area to take the next step.
And that's not a bad thing considering he is like 10 games in. I think we are all harping on it because we all know if he gets accurate deep the dude is simply serious trouble to contend with. I would assume they will be working on this.
Yup. If Brock starts nailing those deep balls more consistently, its a wrap.
I call BS on Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez saying Brocky missed the short crosser because his right foot kicked out LOL the shot required a quick reflex dart and Brocky was a split second late on pulling the release, his foot had little impact on the short throw imo
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
i provided some deep throws.. they also had nice pockets and brock had no issues hitting guys in stride
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
i provided some deep throws.. they also had nice pockets and brock had no issues hitting guys in stride
people making a mountain out of a mole hill
Yeah, I'm not concerned about it at all. We can't expect every game to be perfect, we've been lucky so far. I just want him to continue growing from it and show improvement
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I call BS on Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez saying Brocky missed the short crosser because his right foot kicked out LOL the shot required a quick reflex dart and Brocky was a split second late on pulling the release, his foot had little impact on the short throw imo
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
I heard on a pod that deep shots (20+) are only completed at 30% across the league. I didn't realize it was that low. These QB's suck. LOL
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
I heard on a pod that deep shots (20+) are only completed at 30% across the league. I didn't realize it was that low. These QB's suck. LOL
That is most likely an average. Matt Ryan, Tua and Darnold were all 50+% last season.
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
I heard on a pod that deep shots (20+) are only completed at 30% across the league. I didn't realize it was that low. These QB's suck. LOL
That is most likely an average. Matt Ryan, Tua and Darnold were all 50+% last season.
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
I heard on a pod that deep shots (20+) are only completed at 30% across the league. I didn't realize it was that low. These QB's suck. LOL
Yup, so technically - If Brock hit one out of three, he would of done above league average. Lol
Those overthrows, JTO glosses over the pressures generated from those Ram DLinemen . Brock has to move from his launch point just before he throws those on some of those overthrown passes. It just goes to show how the OLine performance really is directly linked to the QB's performance in many cases.
Meh it's not like he didn't have pressure on those shorter throw. You're not getting a pristine pocket on those long balls most times. Still you're a NFL QB and you should be hitting those types of throws. Ton of good stuff in this video.
I think both of you are right. It's part of what makes deep throws such low percentage throws. If you look at the GIFs going around about "deep throws" - those pockets are incredible. So the pocket is extremely important, but to NYs point - you typically won't have a great pocket on those kind of throws (especially against an Aaron Donald line).
Brock still needs to hit them but viewers should understand why they were more difficult.
i think it's part of his learning curve, even though he practices them in practice - it's different when the bullets are flying and he has to just get a better feel for it. He needs to hit those later in the season/playoffs. Right now isn't a big deal. Especially since we won. They left a lot of points on the table though.
just goes to show you the potential of this offense
I heard on a pod that deep shots (20+) are only completed at 30% across the league. I didn't realize it was that low. These QB's suck. LOL
That is most likely an average. Matt Ryan, Tua and Darnold were all 50+% last season.
It was. Across the league.
So Brock was actually above average last season at 38.5%.