QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's funny how quickly people forget… Lance and darnold haven't looked close, at all. Not even in the same realm. Darnolds been consistently good and protected the ball. Lance has had 2 good drives. The second to last drive had some really sketchy and risky throws that were just lucky they weren't turnovers.

You have to look at the entire body of work and not just what makes you feel good. Lance has been really bad outside of those two drives. So what, 6/8 drives? I'm as happy as anykne for Lance pulling it off last week but you have to be delusional if you think he's played as well as darnold.

Just posted this in another thread but it provides Darnold context

Raiders game
1/6 drives were 3 and out
*had 1 play turnover and 3 play turnover i didnt count
1/6 drives generated scoring opportinities (missed FG)

Broncos game
2/5 drives were 3 and out
1/5 drives generated scoring opportunities (TD on final drive)

Not lighting the preseason on fire...Darnold just "looks" like he knows what he is doing

Lance on the other hand had a great 2 min drill v Raiders (missed FG) and comeback drives v Broncos (TD then FG)

Despite all the mistakes and bad looks we see Lance is generating more scoring opportunities when he is at QB

Yeah but there is context to all of this. Kyle has openly spoke about how a lot of the 3 and outs for darnold weren't his fault, that he executed the plays well.

the main issue is that Lance hasn't been executing the plays well, even if he had a completion - it wasn't how the play is designed. There is so much more to evaluating them than looking at those kind of stats.

we will see what happens, Lance will play against the 2s this week and see how he does.

truthfully, I couldn't care less if it's Lance or Darnold at QB2, my guess would be that it'll be darnold at this point but who knows. I just hope Purdy doesnt get hurt.

Purdy is by far the best qb for this team short term and long term, those two aren't even in the same league as him quality wise, IMO.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Are you saying Trey only looked pathetic in the majority of this pre-season thus far?

I'm saying he only looked bad in one game and a couple series out of 3 preseasons and 4 NFL games.

He also supposedly has looked decent in practice.

He's not as bad as many posters here say. He's not that good either but he's good enough that darnold shouldn't be on the team.

Who mismanages 10 million dollars to the backup and then throws another 5-12million to the third string QB.

No team does that...

It screams the same thoughtprocess as getting lance "Jimmy can't seem to get over the hump, okay let's trade the hous for a raw duel threat rookie"... "Johnson looks pathetic as the third string QB, okay let's bring in a third string QB and give him 5-12 million"... It's just nuts.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah but there is context to all of this. Kyle has openly spoke about how a lot of the 3 and outs for darnold weren't his fault, that he executed the plays well.

the main issue is that Lance hasn't been executing the plays well, even if he had a completion - it wasn't how the play is designed. There is so much more to evaluating them than looking at those kind of stats.

we will see what happens, Lance will play against the 2s this week and see how he does.

truthfully, I couldn't care less if it's Lance or Darnold at QB2, my guess would be that it'll be darnold at this point but who knows. I just hope Purdy doesnt get hurt.

Purdy is by far the best qb for this team short term and long term, those two aren't even in the same league as him quality wise, IMO.

Purdy is the starter 100%

We are talking backups

The decision is mostly $ based IMO

Darnold has higher floor and is ideal if Brock misses a small amount of games

Lance has the potential and is ideal if Brock goes down long term with a serious injury.

Both should be fine as our backup QB

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Are you saying Trey only looked pathetic in the majority of this pre-season thus far?

I'm saying he only looked bad in one game and a couple series out of 3 preseasons and 4 NFL games.

He also supposedly has looked decent in practice.

He's not as bad as many posters here say. He's not that good either but he's good enough that darnold shouldn't be on the team.

Who mismanages 10 million dollars to the backup and then throws another 5-12million to the third string QB.

No team does that...

It screams the same thoughtprocess as getting lance "Jimmy can't seem to get over the hump, okay let's trade the hous for a raw duel threat rookie"... "Johnson looks pathetic as the third string QB, okay let's bring in a third string QB and give him 5-12 million"... It's just nuts.

That would be the majority of the preseason thus far.

A one year 4.5M with incentives for a backup QB is not bad all. Darnold might end up being QB2.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Are you saying Trey only looked pathetic in the majority of this pre-season thus far?

I'm saying he only looked bad in one game and a couple series out of 3 preseasons and 4 NFL games.

He also supposedly has looked decent in practice.

He's not as bad as many posters here say. He's not that good either but he's good enough that darnold shouldn't be on the team.

Who mismanages 10 million dollars to the backup and then throws another 5-12million to the third string QB.

No team does that...

It screams the same thoughtprocess as getting lance "Jimmy can't seem to get over the hump, okay let's trade the hous for a raw duel threat rookie"... "Johnson looks pathetic as the third string QB, okay let's bring in a third string QB and give him 5-12 million"... It's just nuts.

Well the team was able to allocate more money to the QB room for a few different reasons.
1) Brock is super duper cheap at less than $1M
2) Lance is relatively cheap because he's on a rookie scale deal at $10M

That's a total of only $11M for your starter and a backup, that's crazy good. Then when you factor in

3) we've had tons of QB issues over the last 5-6 years, which have derailed our seasons (upon other injuries).

so investing another quality backup like Darnold helps keep the team afloat if someone goes down. I think there is also the factor of the team being uncomfortable with Lance (widely reported last season), so to help stabilize the room / they spent another $5M (with out incentives). That's a super cheap total qb room in the big scheme of things.

now they just need Lance to develop faster and keep doing what he's doing, darnold to keep doing what he's doing (I think he looks like his best version of himself), and Brock to stay healthy and keep improving - we will be golden and it's money well spent.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Are you saying Trey only looked pathetic in the majority of this pre-season thus far?

I'm saying he only looked bad in one game and a couple series out of 3 preseasons and 4 NFL games.

He also supposedly has looked decent in practice.

He's not as bad as many posters here say. He's not that good either but he's good enough that darnold shouldn't be on the team.

Who mismanages 10 million dollars to the backup and then throws another 5-12million to the third string QB.

No team does that...

It screams the same thoughtprocess as getting lance "Jimmy can't seem to get over the hump, okay let's trade the hous for a raw duel threat rookie"... "Johnson looks pathetic as the third string QB, okay let's bring in a third string QB and give him 5-12 million"... It's just nuts.

I agree... when we have capital [Draft, Cap space] you should use it on weakness such as our o line. We can't even see what we have as back up QBs with our line so bad. We need to see if Trey can be Brock's backup. Brock is right now the best QB we have and if our line has any injuries he may get hurt. Why Darnold over O line help is nuts...

Originally posted by libertyforever:
That would be the majority of the preseason thus far.

A one year 4.5M with incentives for a backup QB is not bad all. Darnold might end up being QB2.

This is the type of play that is the reason why I don't think Lance will be QB2, too many plays like this.

I hope the defense uses stuff like this as bulletin board material to get hyped for week 1! Steelers player talking like we can't stop em. GTFO here…

"We're not really worried about that. When the time comes, the first game or whatever — or even this game coming up — we're gonna show what we've been working on this whole training camp," Johnson said, via Brian Batko of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "We've shown a little glimpse of it the first two games. Come the first game, we're gonna put it on display, for sure."

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
That would be the majority of the preseason thus far.

A one year 4.5M with incentives for a backup QB is not bad all. Darnold might end up being QB2.

This is the type of play that is the reason why I don't think Lance will be QB2, too many plays like this.

This is bad. Trey Lance isn't seeing it well here. I don't think I've ever seen a sit read/throw this bad.#FTTB
Full video: https://t.co/hZRyJcU61z pic.twitter.com/NJ8wlrjCYf

— The QB School (@theqbschool) August 21, 2023

We get it, you hate Lance. If Purdy got hurt I believe you'd want Lance to fail so you could puff your chest up while you type here.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We get it, you hate Lance. If Purdy got hurt I believe you'd want Lance to fail so you could puff your chest up while you type here.

Man, his opinion is completely reasonable. It's not hate to point out the team might not want to have this level of volatility at the QB2 spot.

The least we want out of QB2 is to trust that basic plays will be consistently executed.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
That would be the majority of the preseason thus far.

A one year 4.5M with incentives for a backup QB is not bad all. Darnold might end up being QB2.

This is the type of play that is the reason why I don't think Lance will be QB2, too many plays like this.

This is bad. Trey Lance isn't seeing it well here. I don't think I've ever seen a sit read/throw this bad.#FTTB
Full video: https://t.co/hZRyJcU61z pic.twitter.com/NJ8wlrjCYf

— The QB School (@theqbschool) August 21, 2023

We get it, you hate Lance. If Purdy got hurt I believe you'd want Lance to fail so you could puff your chest up while you type here.

I don't hate Lance. Lol I was super happy to see him play the way he did the last two drives. I sure as hell woukdnt hope he would suck. Unlike others, if I'm wrong about Lance - then I'm wrong, who cares?

im just pointing out why I think Lance won't win QB2 initially, although it can change throughout the season so it isn't a big deal. I just think the key difference between the two is that Lance has had some really bad plays and darnold hasn't, both are victims of a bad o line but ultimately I think it'll come down to those plays on the decision. Lol

i don't hate Lance whatsoever. Lol I actually feel bad for the kid most of the time because of the way the national media talks about him. I'm just not confident in him like some are. I don't believe that just because I'm a 49er fan, that I have to be a blind homer for every player.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I hope the defense uses stuff like this as bulletin board material to get hyped for week 1! Steelers player talking like we can't stop em. GTFO here…

"We're not really worried about that. When the time comes, the first game or whatever — or even this game coming up — we're gonna show what we've been working on this whole training camp," Johnson said, via Brian Batko of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "We've shown a little glimpse of it the first two games. Come the first game, we're gonna put it on display, for sure."

Where is he saying they can't be stopped?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We get it, you hate Lance. If Purdy got hurt I believe you'd want Lance to fail so you could puff your chest up while you type here.

Man, his opinion is completely reasonable. It's not hate to point out the team might not want to have this level of volatility at the QB2 spot.

The least we want out of QB2 is to trust that basic plays will be consistently executed.

There's been 3-4 posters for the last 4 months patting each other on the back with negativity about Lance in every QB almost every single day. It's immature and weird. I have zero issue with someone opinion but this is infatuation at this point.

That being said I have lurked this place since the start and if this forum proves anything its how tribal the human species still is even about a player on a team we all love and support. You see it every time with every generation of players.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We get it, you hate Lance. If Purdy got hurt I believe you'd want Lance to fail so you could puff your chest up while you type here.

Man, his opinion is completely reasonable. It's not hate to point out the team might not want to have this level of volatility at the QB2 spot.

The least we want out of QB2 is to trust that basic plays will be consistently executed.

There's been 3-4 posters for the last 4 months patting each other on the back with negativity about Lance in every QB almost every single day. It's immature and weird. I have zero issue with someone opinion but this is infatuation at this point.

That being said I have lurked this place since the start and if this forum proves anything its how tribal the human species still is even about a player on a team we all love and support. You see it every time with every generation of players.

Its what happens when a QB is drafted high and hasn't burst out of the gate in the first couple of years. Same thing happened with Alex Smith, and it will happen again in the future. Just comes with the territory.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
There's been 3-4 posters for the last 4 months patting each other on the back with negativity about Lance in every QB almost every single day. It's immature and weird. I have zero issue with someone opinion but this is infatuation at this point.

That being said I have lurked this place since the start and if this forum proves anything its how tribal the human species still is even about a player on a team we all love and support. You see it every time with every generation of players.

Cisco, let's get real, this was 3 ones for a backup at this point. You want fans who care about this team to be positive about that? If he can help the team win games, I am behind him 100%. If he's gonna ride the bench as QB3, and not play, at a cost of $20m remaining, yeah I am not on that train. I would rather trade that out for anything, and get some cap room back, keep Allen, etc. I don't expect every poster to see it the same way, and we don't have to agree. You can be a 49er fan and feel TL has a real role here, and vice versa. BP is QB of the future, and seeing how he's under contract longer than TL, it puts TL in a questionable at best position. He's boxed out from meaningful snaps.