QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Jimmy never got any better until he got CMC. I hope Purdy improves, but I'm still skeptical.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

And many of them argued Brock started 4 years in college, thus he was more NFL ready, as if it is normal for any 4 year college starter to come into the NFL and play like 7 year veteran right away. This is like not giving him credit for playing well, or downplaying his success.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Jimmy never got any better until he got CMC. I hope Purdy improves, but I'm still skeptical.

I don't think any of us know how bad Jimmy G was in his rookie season.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
And many of them argued Brock started 4 years in college, thus he was more NFL ready, as if it is normal for any 4 year college starter to come into the NFL and play like 7 year veteran right away. This is like not giving him credit for playing well, or downplaying his success.

I didn't think about that but a good point there. Not sure it was dp his success but yeah, kinda is lame like, "Hey, he got a head start..". Doesn't matter, if you can play, you can play. I mean, some peak in college and don't really do much/make it in the NFL.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Well half is his pass attempts are incomplete, a lot of bad accuracy too - not just drops, most of his runs were ineffective, he has 2 touchdowns and 3 turnovers (im only including the three games he started and finished). I feel like it's 70-80% of his film. Regardless, even if it's half - that's bad.

but I understand that he should do better going forward, and I expect him too. I just find it funny that his film inspires some that he is going to be special and Brock's, which like you said a majority of his film is awesome, is going to regress.

he COULD, but idk why people think it's so likely. Like another poster said, they chalk his play up to being more nfl ready but very few rookies (you can count on one hand) have done what he just did - so it isn't that he just started a lot in college. Tons of guys have started a lot in college and blew in the nfl. It's not giving him due, it's just trying to cut him down in hopes that someone else that people like can try and do what he has done/doing.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

💯

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

💯

This is true.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

Hear hear. Historically. Beating records of Kurt Warner, Dan f**king Marino, Russel Wilson and Herbert. But but but it was only 7 games……yeah well that's why the NFL sets those standards for all time records with a minimum of games, attempts and so on. Sorry people can't accept reality.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Well half is his pass attempts are incomplete, a lot of bad accuracy too - not just drops, most of his runs were ineffective, he has 2 touchdowns and 3 turnovers (im only including the three games he started and finished). I feel like it's 70-80% of his film. Regardless, even if it's half - that's bad.

but I understand that he should do better going forward, and I expect him too. I just find it funny that his film inspires some that he is going to be special and Brock's, which like you said a majority of his film is awesome, is going to regress.

he COULD, but idk why people think it's so likely. Like another poster said, they chalk his play up to being more nfl ready but very few rookies (you can count on one hand) have done what he just did - so it isn't that he just started a lot in college. Tons of guys have started a lot in college and blew in the nfl. It's not giving him due, it's just trying to cut him down in hopes that someone else that people like can try and do what he has done/doing.

His designed runs were mostly inaffective. However his scrambles and ability to escape pressure and make plays with his arm as well as his legs has been on par with Brock's last season. He also made some great tight window throws as well as some nicely placed passes in between high and low defenders. He also dealt with a 16.7% drop rate in the Arizona game as well as an 18.8% drop rate in the Chicago game. I'm sure we could go back and forth on plays all night demonstrating my original point. His game has been 50/50.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Well half is his pass attempts are incomplete, a lot of bad accuracy too - not just drops, most of his runs were ineffective, he has 2 touchdowns and 3 turnovers (im only including the three games he started and finished). I feel like it's 70-80% of his film. Regardless, even if it's half - that's bad.

but I understand that he should do better going forward, and I expect him too. I just find it funny that his film inspires some that he is going to be special and Brock's, which like you said a majority of his film is awesome, is going to regress.

he COULD, but idk why people think it's so likely. Like another poster said, they chalk his play up to being more nfl ready but very few rookies (you can count on one hand) have done what he just did - so it isn't that he just started a lot in college. Tons of guys have started a lot in college and blew in the nfl. It's not giving him due, it's just trying to cut him down in hopes that someone else that people like can try and do what he has done/doing.

His designed runs were mostly inaffective. However his scrambles and ability to escape pressure and make plays with his arm as well as his legs has been on par with Brock's last season. He also made some great tight window throws as well as some nicely placed passes in between high and low defenders. He also dealt with a 16.7% drop rate in the Arizona game as well as an 18.8% drop rate in the Chicago game. I'm sure we could go back and forth on plays all night demonstrating my original point. His game has been 50/50.

Let's be real - his trade value is where it's at because of the way he played in those few games. If he played good in them, he would be worth a fortune.

Freak injuries that don't have long term effects, don't crater your trade value.

jimmy played what 3 games in NE, and teams were offering much more than the 2nd we offered. Why? Because he played well in his few appearances. He had freak injuries and it didn't make anyone second guess trying to get him.

so we can debate how well he played but he obviously didn't play well.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Well half is his pass attempts are incomplete, a lot of bad accuracy too - not just drops, most of his runs were ineffective, he has 2 touchdowns and 3 turnovers (im only including the three games he started and finished). I feel like it's 70-80% of his film. Regardless, even if it's half - that's bad.

but I understand that he should do better going forward, and I expect him too. I just find it funny that his film inspires some that he is going to be special and Brock's, which like you said a majority of his film is awesome, is going to regress.

he COULD, but idk why people think it's so likely. Like another poster said, they chalk his play up to being more nfl ready but very few rookies (you can count on one hand) have done what he just did - so it isn't that he just started a lot in college. Tons of guys have started a lot in college and blew in the nfl. It's not giving him due, it's just trying to cut him down in hopes that someone else that people like can try and do what he has done/doing.

His designed runs were mostly inaffective. However his scrambles and ability to escape pressure and make plays with his arm as well as his legs has been on par with Brock's last season. He also made some great tight window throws as well as some nicely placed passes in between high and low defenders. He also dealt with a 16.7% drop rate in the Arizona game as well as an 18.8% drop rate in the Chicago game. I'm sure we could go back and forth on plays all night demonstrating my original point. His game has been 50/50.

Let's be real - his trade value is where it's at because of the way he played in those few games. If he played good in them, he would be worth a fortune.

Freak injuries that don't have long term effects, don't crater your trade value.

jimmy played what 3 games in NE, and teams were offering much more than the 2nd we offered. Why? Because he played well in his few appearances. He had freak injuries and it didn't make anyone second guess trying to get him.

so we can debate how well he played but he obviously didn't play well.

I am being real. You are the one who refuses to recognize the nice plays that he made. I recognize both the good and the bad.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
One of the themes from today is that Purdy is similar to Jimmy… we traded 3x 1st rounders tot move on from Jimmy only to land on a cheaper version of the same…

Purdy played very similar to how Jimmy did with CMC.

- to be fair, Jimmy gets you to the playoffs but can't win it all. Seems like a apt comparison

Lol purdy was arguably better than jimmy, who was having his best season yet. A 7th round rookie was matching him, but ya same qb

I swear people don't know s**t if they really think Purdy and Jimmy are the same. Not ONCE would've Jimmy made the throw to run around the pocket and hit Mitchell in the playoffs against Seattle. NOT ONCE Jimmy ever made a play where he ran around the pocket and hit Aiyuk on a dime which he dropped. Jimmy is beyond a statue in the pocket, doesn't see the field and never ever goes deep and if he does it's usually a sickening miss like he did Juice against TEN a couple years ago on near thanksgiving. It's a joke that people would truly believe Purdy and Jimmy are alike

Jimmy wasn't good enough. Purdy remains to be seen. But the only direct comparison is both guys playing with CMC, and their stats were almost identical. Purdy has demonstrated better RZ performance than any QB under Shanahan. I expect there to be a reduction in Purdy's performance once he becomes the full time starter. I remain hopeful, but it seems like we just replaced Jimmy with a cheaper Jimmy. Not as good of a release but more accurate on longer throws. Slightly less arm strength, improved mobility, and improved RZ production. Not as good of a sneaker.

Purdy can make a lot more plays off script, and he didn't choke in the playoff.

But the biggest difference is one was 9 years in the league, and the other one was a rookie.

Idk why so many people think he will regress. he was a rookie.. usually how you seem someone as a rookie is their floor, and then they improve upon that. I understand that some may think he has a low ceiling, but not sure why they think his floor is going to collapse.

If he just played exactly how he did last year, we would probably be super bowl favorites. Thats without any improvement. He will have improvement in certain aspects of his game. he may have some struggles elsewhere - but to expect him to become bad is just weird.

It's hilarious cause there are a handful of people that think lance is going to explode in a positive way, but almost all of his film is crap. Brock puts together historically great film for a rookie, and he's going to fall apart.

Both should be better than what we've seen from them in the past.

I wouldn't say that almost all of Trey's film is crap. I say its 50/50 up to this point. Its just that Brock's film has been like 90/10.

Well half is his pass attempts are incomplete, a lot of bad accuracy too - not just drops, most of his runs were ineffective, he has 2 touchdowns and 3 turnovers (im only including the three games he started and finished). I feel like it's 70-80% of his film. Regardless, even if it's half - that's bad.

but I understand that he should do better going forward, and I expect him too. I just find it funny that his film inspires some that he is going to be special and Brock's, which like you said a majority of his film is awesome, is going to regress.

he COULD, but idk why people think it's so likely. Like another poster said, they chalk his play up to being more nfl ready but very few rookies (you can count on one hand) have done what he just did - so it isn't that he just started a lot in college. Tons of guys have started a lot in college and blew in the nfl. It's not giving him due, it's just trying to cut him down in hopes that someone else that people like can try and do what he has done/doing.

His designed runs were mostly inaffective. However his scrambles and ability to escape pressure and make plays with his arm as well as his legs has been on par with Brock's last season. He also made some great tight window throws as well as some nicely placed passes in between high and low defenders. He also dealt with a 16.7% drop rate in the Arizona game as well as an 18.8% drop rate in the Chicago game. I'm sure we could go back and forth on plays all night demonstrating my original point. His game has been 50/50.

Let's be real - his trade value is where it's at because of the way he played in those few games. If he played good in them, he would be worth a fortune.

Freak injuries that don't have long term effects, don't crater your trade value.

jimmy played what 3 games in NE, and teams were offering much more than the 2nd we offered. Why? Because he played well in his few appearances. He had freak injuries and it didn't make anyone second guess trying to get him.

so we can debate how well he played but he obviously didn't play well.

I am being real. You are the one who refuses to recognize the nice plays that he made. I recognize both the good and the bad.

I'm not refusing to recognize anything. He made a few nice places, I just think it was like 10-15% of his total snaps were good plays.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
And many of them argued Brock started 4 years in college, thus he was more NFL ready, as if it is normal for any 4 year college starter to come into the NFL and play like 7 year veteran right away. This is like not giving him credit for playing well, or downplaying his success.

I didn't think about that but a good point there. Not sure it was dp his success but yeah, kinda is lame like, "Hey, he got a head start..". Doesn't matter, if you can play, you can play. I mean, some peak in college and don't really do much/make it in the NFL.

It's so dumb. If people really expected his "head start" to be such an advantage he wouldn't have been the last pick in the draft.

Seems to me a lot of people don't want to believe he's good because that means their draft evaluations are shown to be even more reduced in value.