QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's just comical that someone with essentially no/ bare minimum training camps reps and OTA reps, in his career.. until the last week - is not going to make mistakes on plays. Lmao

he never really had a chance to practice stuff until he was thrown to the fire last season. Then he is just focused on executing the gameplan, not mastering the overall offense and going over all the plays in detail.

Lance should be making less mistakes cause this is his third training camp and in all of them, he's had an abundance of snaps.

it's amazing he's executing the offense as well as he is without those reps and practice.

i just love how fast he adapts and adjusts. Very cerebral. Gives me hope that he won't do what Jimmy did and keep making those mistakes over and over again. Lol took jimmy till what, year 5 or so before he looked as good as Brock did his rookie year. Just incredible. Lol it's also funny that people say Brock is just "jimmy 2.0" but he played as well, if not better, than jimmy did in his absolute best stretch of games in his time here.

Where's the He's only 23 crowd?

Brock only has like 30 or so reps all training camp his rookie year. Lol then he's in the season more than halfway through finally getting reps but has to focus on the gameplan and not mastering the system. So it's comical that people think he's going to execute the entire offense with no problem right now. Lol it's not even rational

lance is in his third training camp in the same system and no one should be expecting him to not make mistakes. Lol it's just asinine

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock only has like 30 or so reps all training camp his rookie year. Lol then he's in the season more than halfway through finally getting reps but has to focus on the gameplan and not mastering the system. So it's comical that people think he's going to execute the entire offense with no problem right now. Lol it's not even rational

lance is in his third training camp in the same system and no one should be expecting him to not make mistakes. Lol it's just asinine

That all seems fair! I think for Trey we knew he would be raw but that may have been understated. He's come a long way and fixing his mechanics this off-season was huge.

shout out to him for investing in working on his weaknesses. I think that's an invaluable asset of both of these kids and a testament to the 49ers management for player procurement.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Why are you trying to get me so aroused before I go to bed?! 😏

Our situation right now man.. It feels so crazy to me.

I mean, it feels like we may have guy who's already great (hopefully that's confirmed this year.. We'll see), and then I feel like we have another guy in Lance who I truly believe is going to be great whenever he gets his shot.

In a weird way.. It sure does feel a lot like Joe and Steve in some ways, though the timing is a bit different obviously.

Now don't get all up in arms, folks, this is just my personal feeling. My vibe, my sense I get with these two kids.

I have high hopes for both and feel like both will be successful in this league.

It's a good problem to have. I really think Brock is going to be special, and like you said, hopefully that's proven right this year. The other good part to this is that if Trey shows the ability to be top notch, we have him for at least the next two seasons. So our depth will be bolstered for the next two years.

i just want us to win a super bowl and idc how we do it, I just hope it happens this year.

Agreed.

I mean, the situation is pretty straight forward for where we are right now. Everybody knows there's simply no way you can perform like Brock did last year and suddenly enter the next season as anything other than the top dog. Even Trey himself admitted that.

I'm glad Lance was adamant he wanted to stay here and compete, to continue to develop, and ultimately show his growth and prove to everyone on this team -- players and coaches alike -- that he should be considered a starter in the NFL and deserves to be in the conversation going forward, whether that means sometime mid-season -- if Brock has unexpected struggles or, heaven forbid, suffers an injury and Lance balls out in relief -- or going into next year.

Now, hopefully this isn't the case -- but it's possible Brock maybe just plays solid but not at the same level and doesn't have the same results over a full season that he did last year. I'd hate to see that, but if it did happen, I'd be surprised if there wasn't hints of concern then. You know fans would be talking about it, and so would the media.

Brock really has no pressure on him now, and I don't think he will until the regular season starts. He's not going to lose his starting job for week one, but after that.. I think there's an argument that there's much more pressure on him than he had last year in terms of threats to take his spot. It ain't Josh Johnson behind him now.

When a quality alternative is behind you, the leash just isn't as long. If Lance carries his successful off-season and camp all the way through preseason up to week one, he'll have put himself in way stronger position and make a decision a little easier if things don't go as expected with Brock. And again, that doesn't necessarily even mean this season.

I don't know what's going to happen, but at the end of the day, all I care about is that whatever decisions Kyle and John make going forward lead to Super Bowls.

Brock isn't going to have many bad days, if he does, he'll just give it to CMC. A strong run game is a QBs best friend. Also if defenses are trying to figure out Brock, CMC will eat those defenses alive.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I hope he does blow the raiders out! Or maybe Trey or Sam will!
I'd love to see Brock just uncork a couple of 50+ yard TD passes against the Raiders just to shut up the folks who think he can't throw deep. That should give a lot of defensive coordinators less sleep when facing the 49er offense in the regular season.

The morons who think Brock can't throw deep are completely full of 💩 anyway. The TD that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray was 45 yards in the air. There's less than one throw a game that deep from even the strongest armed qbs. The ones complaining about Brock just can't stand having a qb that's not 6'5" and 250 pounds. The same guys would probably want JaMarcus Russell to start over Joe Montana. Some think physical tools are the most important part of quarterbacking. Which is completely backwards thinking. The mental aspect is by far more vital. That's why the guys that can do both are very rare, and unless you are lucky, are gone before your team picks.

Agree with you that there are morons out there that still think Brock can't play QB1 and win super bowls. And Yes, he can throw deep. However...

Dickey continued: "In one of these off-the-record talks before the 1979 draft, Walsh had praised Dils's intelligence and courage but doubted that he had the physical ability to be a standout in the NFL. He didn't want to downgrade his former quarterback publicly, but he also wanted me to understand why the 49ers wouldn't draft Dils, whom he projected as no more than a backup quarterback in the NFL."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/671789-draft-day-stories-did-bill-walsh-really-target-joe-montana-in-1979

...so between Steve Dills (Walsh's Stanford QB) and Joe Montana, Joe was bigger, faster and stronger than Dills, so physical talent does matter in the NFL. There is a minimum standard for players to play certain positions. Doug Flutie comes to mind. Point being - yes there is a minimum size/height/arm requirements for the NFL QB position, but Purdy meets and exceeds a lot of them too. Kyle would not have drafted Purdy if he didn't think Purdy met the arm requirements his offense needed.

I brought this up in the past. Tua was the 5th overall pick. Tell me how Purdy compare to Tua physically and athletically. I think they are very similar. Apparently most scouts and people believe Tua is good enough physically and atheltically to be a franchise QB in the NFL, otherwise he wouldn't have been a top 5 overall pick.

I think the folks that focus on physical talent don't quite appreciate how intellectual the game of football is. There is a lot of strategy involved in this game. I liken it to a violent game of chess.

The draft is a gamble, nothing is sure about it at all. Trey's draft status (and Tua's) can only take him so far, the rest is up to a combination of coaching, work ethic, and the talent surrounding him. Luck is involved in the draft.

Bottom line is winning. As long as Kyle and John continue to win, they have a job. A franchise QB is a coaches job security. A guy like Brock who wins is more valuable to a coaches job security than Trey (for now) who's inconsistent in the win/loss category. Trey is a talent. He will get better. The nice thing about Treys situation is he can incubate in Kyle's system while Brock takes the pressure off him by winning. If I was Trey, I'd stick to Kyle as long as I possibly can.

Trey is very lucky in the sense that he has been in the same system his whole career. Guys like Alex smith & Darnold have been shafted in that catagory of consistency. Alex had a different system for like his first 7 years and darnold is on like his 6th different system. Lol that stuff is really important to their growth too.

but yes, the game is very mental and emotional. You have to be super quick with your thoughts and processing, have natural instincts for the game. There are so many variables and they're hard to identify, hence finding a franchise QB is brutally difficult.

if Brock plays well like he did last year (and we stay healthy), we should get the #1 seed. I think this season will be a blast to watch

Agree 💯%, this is a big deal. Both Trey and Brock being in the same system multiple years in a row makes their Job a lot easier. They don't have to unlearn stuff so they could learn new stuff. They just build on - and get consistent with - what they learned previously. That's one big way an offense, in general, gets better. All 11 know what to do their 2nd year in the offense and just hone in on and get better on their particular job.

I don't see why Brock isn't going to get better. 2nd year is when most NFL players show the biggest jump in their efficiency. Those folks who say Brock can't get any better than last year, I think, seem to ignore this vital fact.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I hope he does blow the raiders out! Or maybe Trey or Sam will!
I'd love to see Brock just uncork a couple of 50+ yard TD passes against the Raiders just to shut up the folks who think he can't throw deep. That should give a lot of defensive coordinators less sleep when facing the 49er offense in the regular season.

The morons who think Brock can't throw deep are completely full of 💩 anyway. The TD that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray was 45 yards in the air. There's less than one throw a game that deep from even the strongest armed qbs. The ones complaining about Brock just can't stand having a qb that's not 6'5" and 250 pounds. The same guys would probably want JaMarcus Russell to start over Joe Montana. Some think physical tools are the most important part of quarterbacking. Which is completely backwards thinking. The mental aspect is by far more vital. That's why the guys that can do both are very rare, and unless you are lucky, are gone before your team picks.

Agree with you that there are morons out there that still think Brock can't play QB1 and win super bowls. And Yes, he can throw deep. However...

Dickey continued: "In one of these off-the-record talks before the 1979 draft, Walsh had praised Dils's intelligence and courage but doubted that he had the physical ability to be a standout in the NFL. He didn't want to downgrade his former quarterback publicly, but he also wanted me to understand why the 49ers wouldn't draft Dils, whom he projected as no more than a backup quarterback in the NFL."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/671789-draft-day-stories-did-bill-walsh-really-target-joe-montana-in-1979

...so between Steve Dills (Walsh's Stanford QB) and Joe Montana, Joe was bigger, faster and stronger than Dills, so physical talent does matter in the NFL. There is a minimum standard for players to play certain positions. Doug Flutie comes to mind. Point being - yes there is a minimum size/height/arm requirements for the NFL QB position, but Purdy meets and exceeds a lot of them too. Kyle would not have drafted Purdy if he didn't think Purdy met the arm requirements his offense needed.

I brought this up in the past. Tua was the 5th overall pick. Tell me how Purdy compare to Tua physically and athletically. I think they are very similar. Apparently most scouts and people believe Tua is good enough physically and atheltically to be a franchise QB in the NFL, otherwise he wouldn't have been a top 5 overall pick.

I think the folks that focus on physical talent don't quite appreciate how intellectual the game of football is. There is a lot of strategy involved in this game. I liken it to a violent game of chess.

The draft is a gamble, nothing is sure about it at all. Trey's draft status (and Tua's) can only take him so far, the rest is up to a combination of coaching, work ethic, and the talent surrounding him. Luck is involved in the draft.

Bottom line is winning. As long as Kyle and John continue to win, they have a job. A franchise QB is a coaches job security. A guy like Brock who wins is more valuable to a coaches job security than Trey (for now) who's inconsistent in the win/loss category. Trey is a talent. He will get better. The nice thing about Treys situation is he can incubate in Kyle's system while Brock takes the pressure off him by winning. If I was Trey, I'd stick to Kyle as long as I possibly can.

Trey is very lucky in the sense that he has been in the same system his whole career. Guys like Alex smith & Darnold have been shafted in that catagory of consistency. Alex had a different system for like his first 7 years and darnold is on like his 6th different system. Lol that stuff is really important to their growth too.

but yes, the game is very mental and emotional. You have to be super quick with your thoughts and processing, have natural instincts for the game. There are so many variables and they're hard to identify, hence finding a franchise QB is brutally difficult.

if Brock plays well like he did last year (and we stay healthy), we should get the #1 seed. I think this season will be a blast to watch

Agree 💯%, this is a big deal. Both Trey and Brock being in the same system multiple years in a row makes their Job a lot easier. They don't have to unlearn stuff so they could learn new stuff. They just build on - and get consistent with - what they learned previously. That's one big way an offense, in general, gets better. All 11 know what to do their 2nd year in the offense and just hone in on and get better on their particular job.

I don't see why Brock isn't going to get better. 2nd year is when most NFL players show the biggest jump in their efficiency. Those folks who say Brock can't get any better than last year, I think, seem to ignore this vital fact.

Yeah, it's huge for the offense in general (like you said). The skill players benefit a lot from it too. Especially for guys like Aiyuk that took a few years to really get everything right to perform in the pros (he was never bad but in the doghouse for a reason), he didn't have to learn new systems and could just keep grinding. CMC will have a better grasp of the system and all the nuances (he's talked about that). It's just very exciting.

i think Brock is going to be better, for sure. When I say "better" I mean things like his decisiveness, reads, progressions. All things he was already good at, but should be better. I think he will make less mistakes on his first reads. I'm hoping that his confidence and knowledge of the plays now will result in him bailing on the pocket less. I really think he's going to show a lot more veteran things (more than he already did). I can't wait for all the dumb fans (of other teams) acting like he's a joke and for them to be proven wrong. They obviously haven't watched him.

Purdy's deep ball will continue to get better as he builds more rapport with his wrs, no clue why some are freaking out about this

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Purdy's deep ball will continue to get better as he builds more rapport with his wrs, no clue why some are freaking out about this

Because they want to believe he will fail and/or has weaknesses so it gives them more optimism about Trey.

I'll wait to see how he performs in games before worrying about anything. I can't wait for Trey and darnold to look good in preseason, so these guys can lose their minds with optimism lmao - I remember the Detroit lions went 4-0 in the pre season the year they went 0-16. Preseason is nearly worthless football. Vanilla offenses with vanilla defenses, no game plans, no prep. They just go out there and run basic plays against defenses with no prep.

now I hope lance and darnold have great games in the pre season but I also understand it doesn't mean Jack. I'm waiting for the season and If Brock sucks after the first 5 games or so, then we can worry about stuff and all that.

i can't wait to kick the Steelers ass and wipe ours with the terrible towels.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Because they want to believe he will fail and/or has weaknesses so it gives them more optimism about Trey.

I'll wait to see how he performs in games before worrying about anything. I can't wait for Trey and darnold to look good in preseason, so these guys can lose their minds with optimism lmao - I remember the Detroit lions went 4-0 in the pre season the year they went 0-16. Preseason is nearly worthless football. Vanilla offenses with vanilla defenses, no game plans, no prep. They just go out there and run basic plays against defenses with no prep.

now I hope lance and darnold have great games in the pre season but I also understand it doesn't mean Jack. I'm waiting for the season and If Brock sucks after the first 5 games or so, then we can worry about stuff and all that.

i can't wait to kick the Steelers ass and wipe ours with the terrible towels.

Preseason, just like training camp, is nothing more than propaganda fodder for everyone with a digital keyboard.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Purdy's deep ball will continue to get better as he builds more rapport with his wrs, no clue why some are freaking out about this

Because they want to believe he will fail and/or has weaknesses so it gives them more optimism about Trey.

I'll wait to see how he performs in games before worrying about anything. I can't wait for Trey and darnold to look good in preseason, so these guys can lose their minds with optimism lmao - I remember the Detroit lions went 4-0 in the pre season the year they went 0-16. Preseason is nearly worthless football. Vanilla offenses with vanilla defenses, no game plans, no prep. They just go out there and run basic plays against defenses with no prep.

now I hope lance and darnold have great games in the pre season but I also understand it doesn't mean Jack. I'm waiting for the season and If Brock sucks after the first 5 games or so, then we can worry about stuff and all that.

i can't wait to kick the Steelers ass and wipe ours with the terrible towels.

Also aren't the majority of attempts intermediate to short? Purdy excels at that and he can make all the throws.

If our online holds up week 1, he should have no problem dicing up Pittsburgh's defense

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Purdy's deep ball will continue to get better as he builds more rapport with his wrs, no clue why some are freaking out about this

Because they want to believe he will fail and/or has weaknesses so it gives them more optimism about Trey.

I'll wait to see how he performs in games before worrying about anything. I can't wait for Trey and darnold to look good in preseason, so these guys can lose their minds with optimism lmao - I remember the Detroit lions went 4-0 in the pre season the year they went 0-16. Preseason is nearly worthless football. Vanilla offenses with vanilla defenses, no game plans, no prep. They just go out there and run basic plays against defenses with no prep.

now I hope lance and darnold have great games in the pre season but I also understand it doesn't mean Jack. I'm waiting for the season and If Brock sucks after the first 5 games or so, then we can worry about stuff and all that.

i can't wait to kick the Steelers ass and wipe ours with the terrible towels.

Also aren't the majority of attempts intermediate to short? Purdy excels at that and he can make all the throws.

If our online holds up week 1, he should have no problem dicing up Pittsburgh's defense

This is my concern for any qb playing. We are arguing over the qbs when we should be more concerned about the oline.

+4000 to win NFL MVP, which is same as Russell Wilson and Pickett

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
+4000 to win NFL MVP, which is same as Russell Wilson and Pickett

I'm Tempted to take the odds associated with 2.5% probability.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Purdy's deep ball will continue to get better as he builds more rapport with his wrs, no clue why some are freaking out about this

Because they want to believe he will fail and/or has weaknesses so it gives them more optimism about Trey.

I'll wait to see how he performs in games before worrying about anything. I can't wait for Trey and darnold to look good in preseason, so these guys can lose their minds with optimism lmao - I remember the Detroit lions went 4-0 in the pre season the year they went 0-16. Preseason is nearly worthless football. Vanilla offenses with vanilla defenses, no game plans, no prep. They just go out there and run basic plays against defenses with no prep.

now I hope lance and darnold have great games in the pre season but I also understand it doesn't mean Jack. I'm waiting for the season and If Brock sucks after the first 5 games or so, then we can worry about stuff and all that.

i can't wait to kick the Steelers ass and wipe ours with the terrible towels.

Also aren't the majority of attempts intermediate to short? Purdy excels at that and he can make all the throws.

If our online holds up week 1, he should have no problem dicing up Pittsburgh's defense

We will Beat the brakes off the Steelers, E-40 style.

they have some talent on the D line but not overall. Trent will hold is guy down and we will assist mckivitz with the guard or a chip.

we have sooo many weapons that they really don't stand a chance to cover them all.

then out d is so stacked, especially at the line. I don't think Pickett is very good. I think he's a very average qb and he needs it to be a close game, he won't be able to drop 20+ on us. Meanwhile we will score 34+. This is my prediction.
37-13. we get that good gushy gushy.
CMC & Aiyuk have a day. Hargrave and bosa get 2 sacks apiece, Drake get ones. We get at least one pick too. He will be under too much pressure and our D is too intense.

our Team will finally get off to a good start. Our D usually does, even against the bears they played a good game outside of two plays. Still kept it super low scoring.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
+4000 to win NFL MVP, which is same as Russell Wilson and Pickett

I'm Tempted to take the odds associated with 2.5% probability.

Historically, QBs in kyles system have an explosion in their production. Only one that didn't was jimmy.

With our skill players, if Brock has a great season and continues what he did last year - he actually has a real chance of winning it. It typically goes to someone who bursts onto the scene. Personally, it should probably go to Mahomes every year but we know how the media is. They find the new comer who bursts on the scene. I might take the bet

longshot but at least there is some rationale to it

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover
Incredible in-depth breakdown of what Brock did to increase his throwing velocity/speed.

talks about his workouts, what exactly he fixed mechanics wise. Very interesting read. I was asking for this info a while ago but only came across general info.

highly suggest anyone interested in this stuff to check it out.