QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
I'd bet $1 this QB room was decided weeks ago. Monday morning QBs talking Trey down when there has been nothing to see yet. 1 year on the bench to watch Jimmy was a mistake. Last year and injury. We can call it year three all we want and that's true but it equals a few short months in Trey years.

Id say the 9ers want a fire under him so they cry number 2 battle. Smart. I'd also say they know Trey is two and have planned accordingly for weeks. If you think they are ready to boot Trey after the capital without further grooming then I'd say you also think they always wanted that QB over at NE.

Brock needs a seal it season or there is this guy they spent highly on right behind him.

I don't think so man, and the bolded is definitely not accurate.

People need to stop attributing objective reads of a situation to hate and/or ulterior motive.

You're not spending 3.5 million GTD, with a 4.5 million dollar base salary and incentives up to 11 million… and giving away valuable reps… just to motivate another guy who is slated to be a backup QB for the season. It's not close to reality.

This.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
I'd bet $1 this QB room was decided weeks ago. Monday morning QBs talking Trey down when there has been nothing to see yet. 1 year on the bench to watch Jimmy was a mistake. Last year and injury. We can call it year three all we want and that's true but it equals a few short months in Trey years.

Id say the 9ers want a fire under him so they cry number 2 battle. Smart. I'd also say they know Trey is two and have planned accordingly for weeks. If you think they are ready to boot Trey after the capital without further grooming then I'd say you also think they always wanted that QB over at NE.

Brock needs a seal it season or there is this guy they spent highly on right behind him.

I don't think so man, and the bolded is definitely not accurate.

People need to stop attributing objective reads of a situation to hate and/or ulterior motive.

You're not spending 3.5 million GTD, with a 4.5 million dollar base salary and incentives up to 11 million… and giving away valuable reps… just to motivate another guy who is slated to be a backup QB for the season. It's not close to reality.

This.

I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
I'd bet $1 this QB room was decided weeks ago. Monday morning QBs talking Trey down when there has been nothing to see yet. 1 year on the bench to watch Jimmy was a mistake. Last year and injury. We can call it year three all we want and that's true but it equals a few short months in Trey years.

Id say the 9ers want a fire under him so they cry number 2 battle. Smart. I'd also say they know Trey is two and have planned accordingly for weeks. If you think they are ready to boot Trey after the capital without further grooming then I'd say you also think they always wanted that QB over at NE.

Brock needs a seal it season or there is this guy they spent highly on right behind him.

I don't think so man, and the bolded is definitely not accurate.

People need to stop attributing objective reads of a situation to hate and/or ulterior motive.

You're not spending 3.5 million GTD, with a 4.5 million dollar base salary and incentives up to 11 million… and giving away valuable reps… just to motivate another guy who is slated to be a backup QB for the season. It's not close to reality.

This.

This x2.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

I view TL as a backup, no offense to TL, and I know ppl get sore on the subject.. but I am trying to keep a reality based view. BP is QB1. TL is backup. So TL gets backup dollars, he can take a look at Darnold, if he wants to know what that looks like. The current Darnold contract. We can update this calculation, if he moves up from backup to starter.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

I view TL as a backup, no offense to TL, and I know ppl get sore on the subject.. but I am trying to keep a reality based view. BP is QB1. TL is backup. So TL gets backup dollars, he can take a look at Darnold, if he wants to know what that looks like. The current Darnold contract. We can update this calculation, if he moves up from backup to starter.

I view him as the backup too, because that's what he currently is. I was just saying that some people are hoping he can beat out Brock, I was saying that I don't think Kyle/John really care for that because they desire a cheap QB who can play at a high level. Since this is year 3/4 of his contract, we've sorta lost that benefit and he it goes in and plays well - he's going to want a ton of money soon. Where as Brock will be cheap for the next three years. So Lance would have to play significantly better than Brock to justify that. I don't think the team is eager to do that.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

I view TL as a backup, no offense to TL, and I know ppl get sore on the subject.. but I am trying to keep a reality based view. BP is QB1. TL is backup. So TL gets backup dollars, he can take a look at Darnold, if he wants to know what that looks like. The current Darnold contract. We can update this calculation, if he moves up from backup to starter.

I view him as the backup too, because that's what he currently is. I was just saying that some people are hoping he can beat out Brock, I was saying that I don't think Kyle/John really care for that because they desire a cheap QB who can play at a high level. Since this is year 3/4 of his contract, we've sorta lost that benefit and he it goes in and plays well - he's going to want a ton of money soon. Where as Brock will be cheap for the next three years. So Lance would have to play significantly better than Brock to justify that. I don't think the team is eager to do that.

Yup, BP helps the salary cap in a number of ways, It's a rook deal, it is year 2 of that deal, instead of TL which is year 3. Also he makes about 800-900k per year (varies a bit each year). TL makes like 10x what BP does. even on the rook deal, BP is way cheaper. I don't think TL will want a ton of money soon, I think he would just want a place where he can have an NFL paycheck, and compete, like what Sam has now. I'm forecasting BP to get the starts, and play well, for the time being. Only way I see a big TL payday, is if BP gets hurt, so TL has games to showcase himself, or if BP doesn't play well, giving TL such games.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

I view TL as a backup, no offense to TL, and I know ppl get sore on the subject.. but I am trying to keep a reality based view. BP is QB1. TL is backup. So TL gets backup dollars, he can take a look at Darnold, if he wants to know what that looks like. The current Darnold contract. We can update this calculation, if he moves up from backup to starter.

I view him as the backup too, because that's what he currently is. I was just saying that some people are hoping he can beat out Brock, I was saying that I don't think Kyle/John really care for that because they desire a cheap QB who can play at a high level. Since this is year 3/4 of his contract, we've sorta lost that benefit and he it goes in and plays well - he's going to want a ton of money soon. Where as Brock will be cheap for the next three years. So Lance would have to play significantly better than Brock to justify that. I don't think the team is eager to do that.

Yup, BP helps the salary cap in a number of ways, It's a rook deal, it is year 2 of that deal, instead of TL which is year 3. Also he makes about 800-900k per year (varies a bit each year). TL makes like 10x what BP does. even on the rook deal, BP is way cheaper. I don't think TL will want a ton of money soon, I think he would just want a place where he can have an NFL paycheck, and compete, like what Sam has now. I'm forecasting BP to get the starts, and play well, for the time being. Only way I see a big TL payday, is if BP gets hurt, so TL has games to showcase himself, or if BP doesn't play well, giving TL such games.

Lance wants to play. If he doesn't get significant playing time this year he will probably request a trade.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

You got me at TL will demand a fortune

Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

I view TL as a backup, no offense to TL, and I know ppl get sore on the subject.. but I am trying to keep a reality based view. BP is QB1. TL is backup. So TL gets backup dollars, he can take a look at Darnold, if he wants to know what that looks like. The current Darnold contract. We can update this calculation, if he moves up from backup to starter.

I view him as the backup too, because that's what he currently is. I was just saying that some people are hoping he can beat out Brock, I was saying that I don't think Kyle/John really care for that because they desire a cheap QB who can play at a high level. Since this is year 3/4 of his contract, we've sorta lost that benefit and he it goes in and plays well - he's going to want a ton of money soon. Where as Brock will be cheap for the next three years. So Lance would have to play significantly better than Brock to justify that. I don't think the team is eager to do that.

Yup, BP helps the salary cap in a number of ways, It's a rook deal, it is year 2 of that deal, instead of TL which is year 3. Also he makes about 800-900k per year (varies a bit each year). TL makes like 10x what BP does. even on the rook deal, BP is way cheaper. I don't think TL will want a ton of money soon, I think he would just want a place where he can have an NFL paycheck, and compete, like what Sam has now. I'm forecasting BP to get the starts, and play well, for the time being. Only way I see a big TL payday, is if BP gets hurt, so TL has games to showcase himself, or if BP doesn't play well, giving TL such games.

Lance wants to play. If he doesn't get significant playing time this year he will probably request a trade.

Every guy, wants to play. It's based on merit / ability. You sound like his agent

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the team is also looking at the upcoming salary cap and at this point, that falls in Brock's favor. The team has openly talked about the trade up because they wanted a rookie scale QB to help with the salary cap going forward to keep the team in tact. Since Lance will only have one more year remaining before he will demand a fortune, I think the team views Brock as QB1 and is going to give him as many opportunities as possible to secure that - outside of his stellar play last year.

so I think that's something Lance doesn't have working in his favor in regards to getting QB1. He would have to play out of his mind to change that right now.

that's just my opinion, I don't think the team cares about being "right" with the picks or trying to recoup the lost capital - I think they look at that as over and done with.

i just want to see Brock get better and then Lance and darnold get as crisp as possible to make the QB room strong for the season, If they're needed.

Demand a fortune? We probably couldn't even get a 6th round pick for him. He'll be lucky to be on a roster in a few years.

He's still 23 (right now) so someone may take a flier on him, but he's just so far behind the development curve in terms of playing time. And that's unlikely to change in the next 1-2 years unless we have massive injuries again (always possible).

And I gotta believe that if QB whisperer Shanny gives up on him, the league will listen.

Seems like Brock is a mixed bag today. Do better tomorrow

Originally posted by tankle104:
Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

"Above average" injury prone QB's? You just described Jimmy G, who gets just under $25M per year.

No one in their right mind is paying Lance $35M. Better off rolling the dice on a QB in the draft and having the rookie contract to build around.

Some random offensive coach out here criticizing our boy.

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Originally posted by TrojanPV:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Well if he plays well, not even great, just above average - the going rate is like $35M+ these days. Since the top QBs are making late $45M-$50M. I don't think there is any way in hell we would want to do that to our cap.

"Above average" injury prone QB's? You just described Jimmy G, who gets just under $25M per year.

No one in their right mind is paying Lance $35M. Better off rolling the dice on a QB in the draft and having the rookie contract to build around.

I was actually surprised and thought Jimmy woke get closer to $28M but regardless - it would be a bunch more for Trey in a few years with most likely very minimal starts. Paying $25M would be more than double what we do now and harsh on our cap.