QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

Unfortunately teams don't have the luxury of letting college players audition and play a half dozen games before they pick. Unless there's a true unique talent teams usually go for the biggest, fastest guy with the strongest arm. We see it every year. The Colts picked Anthony Richardson with the 4th overall pick this year. He's a guy that everyone says isn't NFL ready. Very athletic but a terrible passer. Prior to the draft many so called draft experts were saying that there wasn't even one QB that was worthy of a top 10 pick. I would have bet my house that someone would be taken in the top 10. Teams can't resist that urge to find a franchise QB and they're willing to take a chance on anyone that intrigues them. It's why so many are busts.

It's a lotto and there's a handful of sure picks at QB that come around every 10yrs it seems. We passed on Mahomes because of the knock on his college system. But after the draft the player has to want to keep learning and they need great coaching : Reid, Shanahan vs Mike Nolan & Singletary.

Brock just didn't have the measurables of 6'5" a rocket arm, and fast 40 times. They didn't consider his vision and ability to see plays and receivers. Our last few higher profile players Kap and Jimmy G could only see part of the field and they can be game planned and shut down because of their tendencies. I'm guessing even with a bigger sample size of film now it's going to be hard to do the same with Brock because of his vision. That with our weapons on each level to throw to RB/TE/WR there's going to be someone open.

Opposing teams best chance is to steamroll the right side of our line, as they did in critical games last year.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
It's a lotto and there's a handful of sure picks at QB that come around every 10yrs it seems. We passed on Mahomes because of the knock on his college system. But after the draft the player has to want to keep learning and they need great coaching : Reid, Shanahan vs Mike Nolan & Singletary.

Brock just didn't have the measurables of 6'5" a rocket arm, and fast 40 times. They didn't consider his vision and ability to see plays and receivers. Our last few higher profile players Kap and Jimmy G could only see part of the field and they can be game planned and shut down because of their tendencies. I'm guessing even with a bigger sample size of film now it's going to be hard to do the same with Brock because of his vision. That with our weapons on each level to throw to RB/TE/WR there's going to be someone open.

Opposing teams best chance is to steamroll the right side of our line, as they did in critical games last year.

Outside of hargrave, did the eagles lose anyone else on the d line?

there aren't many teams capable of doing what they did to us. The cowboys micah parsons was just incredible though.

Darnold said he has been most impressed with the way Purdy carries himself.

"You can see it in the way that he plays and the way that he prepares: Kid's got poise," Darnold said. "I don't know if you can coach that or teach that quality, and he's got it."

Originally posted by tankle104:
Darnold said he has been most impressed with the way Purdy carries himself.

"You can see it in the way that he plays and the way that he prepares: Kid's got poise," Darnold said. "I don't know if you can coach that or teach that quality, and he's got it."

Lol, that quote. Unintentionally revealing nuggets ftw

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Darnold said he has been most impressed with the way Purdy carries himself.

"You can see it in the way that he plays and the way that he prepares: Kid's got poise," Darnold said. "I don't know if you can coach that or teach that quality, and he's got it."

Lol, that quote. Unintentionally revealing nuggets ftw

I feel like it takes years to develop that kind of attribute. I also think it's a combination of nature & nurture. That's why when you get to the league, you typically don't have enough time to really work through that to get to the point where you're very confident in yourself and know who you are and what you stand for.

kudos to Brock's parents for raising him right. Kudos to Brock for embracing it and executing it.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

why not next JOE ??

Brock Brees has a ring to it

But yes what if...

Joe
Young
Brock

Brock Montana
Purdy Young? LOL

Quest for six continues LFG

If Brock comes back swinging after this injury ....the next come back kid? Lol just havin fun lol

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

This is easy.....

In What world?

We have all seen bad picks at the top of the draft, Lance is not even in the top 5 worst draft busts, but Lance was not worth what was paid for him....period.

Love the dude, want the best for him...hope he rocks....but he was not worth what was paid for him in draft capital.

So in what world do you have to earn starting reps?

In a world were a potential superbowl level team is not about to throw their season away to wait for an over valued QB prospect to beat out a 3rd stringer.

It is rare to see teams with as much talent as the 49ers draft what is generally considered a "must play" player, but kudos for them not throwing the season away to satisfy the whims of what is expected.

We know the 49ers have every reason under the sun to play Lance, because that is what is expected. IF they are NOT playing Lance, and Lance gets beat out by an off the street free agent

Well.....that probably tells you more about Lance then it does about Kyle.

This team is in win now mode, you don't stop and wait for Lance- 3 years in the system- to figure out how to beat out an off the street FA.

Lance has to learn on the fly....they are not going to just hand him the job again.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

why not next JOE ??

Brock Brees has a ring to it

But yes what if...

Joe
Young
Brock

Brock Montana
Purdy Young? LOL

Quest for six continues LFG

If Brock comes back swinging after this injury ....the next come back kid? Lol just havin fun lol

Y. A. Purdle

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

This is easy.....

In What world?

We have all seen bad picks at the top of the draft, Lance is not even in the top 5 worst draft busts, but Lance was not worth what was paid for him....period.

Love the dude, want the best for him...hope he rocks....but he was not worth what was paid for him in draft capital.

So in what world do you have to earn starting reps?

In a world were a potential superbowl level team is not about to throw their season away to wait for an over valued QB prospect to beat out a 3rd stringer.

It is rare to see teams with as much talent as the 49ers draft what is generally considered a "must play" player, but kudos for them not throwing the season away to satisfy the whims of what is expected.

We know the 49ers have every reason under the sun to play Lance, because that is what is expected. IF they are NOT playing Lance, and Lance gets beat out by an off the street free agent

Well.....that probably tells you more about Lance then it does about Kyle.

This team is in win now mode, you don't stop and wait for Lance- 3 years in the system- to figure out how to beat out an off the street FA.

Lance has to learn on the fly....they are not going to just hand him the job again.

Well that's the thing, it's a world that Kyle and Lynch created themselves. It wasn't the fans that made that trade. We were a Super Bowl level team BEFORE they made that trade, not after. They knew he was raw, everyone did, and they selected him. So you make the biggest trade in franchise history……to sit the player that you made that trade for??? Gets hurt 2 games into his second season and now give up on the kid? I get that Purdy happened, he no question earned the QB1 spot this season until further notice, but WTF has Darnold and Allen done to earn equal footing in this organization as Lance, whom Kyle and Lynch a season ago had as QB1 and the future of this franchise that they moved heaven on earth for? His development/evaluation ended after two games? It's malpractice and straight up stupid and as NY stated has NEVER happened before. How anyone can invest that much and not see it through is beyond me though and is a question for the guys that did it, Kyle and Lynch.

And no, you do not know if he ends up being worth it or not, ain't no periods yet lol. 4 games, 23 years old and people think they know what he is already
Man, so many QBs in the history of the NFL wouldn't have had a chance if that same stance were held against them, including our very own Steve Young

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Well that's the thing, it's a world that Kyle and Lynch created themselves. It wasn't the fans that made that trade. We were a Super Bowl level team BEFORE they made that trade, not after. They knew he was raw, everyone did, and they selected him. So you make the biggest trade in franchise history……to sit the player that you made that trade for??? Gets hurt 2 games into his second season and now give up on the kid? I get that Purdy happened, he no question earned the QB1 spot this season until further notice, but WTF has Darnold and Allen done to earn equal footing in this organization as Lance, whom Kyle and Lynch a season ago had as QB1 and the future of this franchise that they moved heaven on earth for? His development/evaluation ended after two games? It's malpractice and straight up stupid and as NY stated has NEVER happened before. How anyone can invest that much and not see it through is beyond me though and is a question for the guys that did it, Kyle and Lynch.

And no, you do not know if he ends up being worth it or not, ain't no periods yet lol. 4 games, 23 years old and people think they know what he is already
Man, so many QBs in the history of the NFL wouldn't have had a chance if that same stance were held against them, including our very own Steve Young

The trade was terrible. It might have put too much undue pressure on Lance. And, I don't know why Shanahan called so many runs into the line for Lance. Why not an end once in awhile? But Lance has been a disappointment on the field. He's been inaccurate at passing and indecisive with a lack of quickness at running. We don't know whether he's played better or worse during practice. Your (and our) analysis of his skill level lacks this knowledge. His splitting reps with the other QBs may simply be a fair assessment of Lance's play. He may get more of a share as TC progresses. He had all the TC reps last year. It wasn't enough. Jimmy had no TC reps and also outplayed Trey after Trey's injury. It's unfortunate that Lance got hurt. Had he played well, Jimmy and Brock wouldn't have played, and Trey might have improved. But even Troy Aikman conceded that the Niners were better with Jimmy at QB. Even without the injury, Trey might have been benched. How long should Shanahan have waited? The fact that Trey is not outperforming the other two QBs seems to speak for itself. We all hope he will show a great deal of skill with the opportunities he has.

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Y. A. Purdle

🤣

Trading 3 first round picks to take the 3rd QB off the board never made sense. I posted this on here before Lance was selected.

It's not surprising to me that it still doesn't make sense now. That said, I keep seeing separate questions get meshed together which muddies the issue of what to do now. In my view there are two distinct questions:

1) Who should be QB1?
Personally I think it should be a competition between Lance and Purdy. But if you have to pick QB1 today without training camp then it's clearly Brock Purdy unless he shows signs of issues post injury.

2) Who should be QB2?
IMO, it has to be Lance if he doesn't win QB1. This is where I think the fans are getting frustrated. The team selected Lance (using 3 first round picks) and they should have known he needed development, yet they are not committing to giving him that. Why are Darnold and Allen even in the mix if Trey needs development? If Trey is so bad that he shouldnt be QB2, then this is a huge gaffe of a trade/pick and the team needs to own up to it. But most likely we all see that it's too early to say he is a bust without developing him. If the team wasn't going to develop him then why spend so much draft capital to pick such a raw player? The team needs to be held accountable on the decision making on all of this but instead posters argue with each other. Lynch and Shanahan are getting let off the hook. The media is playing along too.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
Trading 3 first round picks to take the 3rd QB off the board never made sense. I posted this on here before Lance was selected.

It's not surprising to me that it still doesn't make sense now. That said, I keep seeing separate questions get meshed together which muddies the issue of what to do now. In my view there are two distinct questions:

1) Who should be QB1?
Personally I think it should be a competition between Lance and Purdy. But if you have to pick QB1 today without training camp then it's clearly Brock Purdy unless he shows signs of issues post injury.

2) Who should be QB2?
IMO, it has to be Lance if he doesn't win QB1. This is where I think the fans are getting frustrated. The team selected Lance (using 3 first round picks) and they should have known he needed development, yet they are not committing to giving him that. Why are Darnold and Allen even in the mix if Trey needs development? If Trey is so bad that he shouldnt be QB2, then this is a huge gaffe of a trade/pick and the team needs to own up to it. But most likely we all see that it's too early to say he is a bust without developing him. If the team wasn't going to develop him then why spend so much draft capital to pick such a raw player? The team needs to be held accountable on the decision making on all of this but instead posters argue with each other. Lynch and Shanahan are getting let off the hook. The media is playing along too.

Fair and good post

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
Trading 3 first round picks to take the 3rd QB off the board never made sense. I posted this on here before Lance was selected.

It's not surprising to me that it still doesn't make sense now. That said, I keep seeing separate questions get meshed together which muddies the issue of what to do now. In my view there are two distinct questions:

1) Who should be QB1?
Personally I think it should be a competition between Lance and Purdy. But if you have to pick QB1 today without training camp then it's clearly Brock Purdy unless he shows signs of issues post injury.

2) Who should be QB2?
IMO, it has to be Lance if he doesn't win QB1. This is where I think the fans are getting frustrated. The team selected Lance (using 3 first round picks) and they should have known he needed development, yet they are not committing to giving him that. Why are Darnold and Allen even in the mix if Trey needs development? If Trey is so bad that he shouldnt be QB2, then this is a huge gaffe of a trade/pick and the team needs to own up to it. But most likely we all see that it's too early to say he is a bust without developing him. If the team wasn't going to develop him then why spend so much draft capital to pick such a raw player? The team needs to be held accountable on the decision making on all of this but instead posters argue with each other. Lynch and Shanahan are getting let off the hook. The media is playing along too.

1) no competition needed. Brock has shown he can run Kyle's offense to the fullest extent. The closest thing to Matt Ryan's MVP season. Purdy is unquestionably QB1.

2) we are in his 3rd offseason and we are still reading Trey missing the gimmes. That s**t isn't on Kyle. At least not as far as development goes. You can put it on him from an evaluational standpoint. He shouldn't nor can he teach a #3 overall how to hit the gimmes. That s**t should be part of why he gets drafted. Not something you hope he learns.

His needed development is from a foundational/fundamental standpoint that is usually learned long before you become the #3 overall pick. Trying to forget umpteen years of bad habits once you hit the big leagues is rough.

The only reason Kyle/John is getting off the hook is because of Purdy. If not for Purdy and we were letting Trey and Sam battle it out, I promise you there would be furniture moving at Santa Clara headquarters

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
Trading 3 first round picks to take the 3rd QB off the board never made sense. I posted this on here before Lance was selected.

It's not surprising to me that it still doesn't make sense now. That said, I keep seeing separate questions get meshed together which muddies the issue of what to do now. In my view there are two distinct questions:

1) Who should be QB1?
Personally I think it should be a competition between Lance and Purdy. But if you have to pick QB1 today without training camp then it's clearly Brock Purdy unless he shows signs of issues post injury.

2) Who should be QB2?
IMO, it has to be Lance if he doesn't win QB1. This is where I think the fans are getting frustrated. The team selected Lance (using 3 first round picks) and they should have known he needed development, yet they are not committing to giving him that. Why are Darnold and Allen even in the mix if Trey needs development? If Trey is so bad that he shouldnt be QB2, then this is a huge gaffe of a trade/pick and the team needs to own up to it. But most likely we all see that it's too early to say he is a bust without developing him. If the team wasn't going to develop him then why spend so much draft capital to pick such a raw player? The team needs to be held accountable on the decision making on all of this but instead posters argue with each other. Lynch and Shanahan are getting let off the hook. The media is playing along too.

1) no competition needed. Brock has shown he can run Kyle's offense to the fullest extent. The closest thing to Matt Ryan's MVP season. Purdy is unquestionably QB1.

2) we are in his 3rd offseason and we are still reading Trey missing the gimmes. That s**t isn't on Kyle. At least not as far as development goes. You can put it on him from an evaluational standpoint. He shouldn't nor can he teach a #3 overall how to hit the gimmes. That s**t should be part of why he gets drafted. Not something you hope he learns.

His needed development is from a foundational/fundamental standpoint that is usually learned long before you become the #3 overall pick. Trying to forget umpteen years of bad habits once you hit the big leagues is rough.

The only reason Kyle/John is getting off the hook is because of Purdy. If not for Purdy and we were letting Trey and Sam battle it out, I promise you there would be furniture moving at Santa Clara headquarters

fo shizzle Brocky saved ShannaLynch's bacon