QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Only a boon in my opinion that he's not getting molded by shanahan in the off-season the way traditionally his QBs in the past have.

The more of the playbook and longer Kyle gets to work with them the worse they get if past is any indication.

They play brilliant with a limited playbook and then the more they get thrown into it the worse they get.

Just my opinion and I'm a shanahan hater so take that for what it's worth.

Purdy will be solid. His improvisation is what makes him so great. It's not kyles 1st and second reads getting us to 30 points a game. It's purdy scrambling and making first downs and bombs to the third or fourth read. Bailing out of trouble and throwing dimes with rushers in his face.

This bold is only true with jimmy. Lol with Schaub in Houston he got better. With Ryan's he did in Atl. Before jimmy, Kyle had a track record of QBs having MVP caliber seasons in year 2 of his system.

so I'm hoping he does that with Brock.

Kyle has gotten the most out of every QB, period

I can't believe there are Kyle haters.. probably the best thing that happened for the 49ers in a very long time

Yeah, I love having him as our coach. I think he does a great job with the offense, leading the overall team, creating a great culture, hiring awesome assistant coaches etc.

the only thing I think he sucks at is identifying who we should draft - regardless of the position. Lmao I feel like a majority of our 1-3 round picks that were misses are guys he fell in love with.

You mean trading up for Beathard and Petis lol. I will say though this tandem of Lynch and Shanahan have built an amazing roster. Changed the way I see drafts. I always check out the 5th rounders for stars. Hoping Jaylon Moore explodes this year haha.

I was watching Purdy's college tapes and noticed he just slightly over threw most of his receiver's. They still caught the passes but we're diving out falling after the catch. I think in the pros the receiver's are just that faster therfore his natural target perception is perfect for the pros. Maybe also be why so many QB busts when they hit the pros. Just a thought on why Purdy was good as a rookie and no one was noticing him in the draft. Of course there is size and school but his game adapted so well as a rookie.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Only a boon in my opinion that he's not getting molded by shanahan in the off-season the way traditionally his QBs in the past have.

The more of the playbook and longer Kyle gets to work with them the worse they get if past is any indication.

They play brilliant with a limited playbook and then the more they get thrown into it the worse they get.

Just my opinion and I'm a shanahan hater so take that for what it's worth.

Purdy will be solid. His improvisation is what makes him so great. It's not kyles 1st and second reads getting us to 30 points a game. It's purdy scrambling and making first downs and bombs to the third or fourth read. Bailing out of trouble and throwing dimes with rushers in his face.

This bold is only true with jimmy. Lol with Schaub in Houston he got better. With Ryan's he did in Atl. Before jimmy, Kyle had a track record of QBs having MVP caliber seasons in year 2 of his system.

so I'm hoping he does that with Brock.

Kyle has gotten the most out of every QB, period

I can't believe there are Kyle haters.. probably the best thing that happened for the 49ers in a very long time

Yeah, I love having him as our coach. I think he does a great job with the offense, leading the overall team, creating a great culture, hiring awesome assistant coaches etc.

the only thing I think he sucks at is identifying who we should draft - regardless of the position. Lmao I feel like a majority of our 1-3 round picks that were misses are guys he fell in love with.

You mean trading up for Beathard and Petis lol. I will say though this tandem of Lynch and Shanahan have built an amazing roster. Changed the way I see drafts. I always check out the 5th rounders for stars. Hoping Jaylon Moore explodes this year haha.

no way we can have the team we have if the Org sucks at drafting

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
In his first start making a plays like this

Here's an OK clip of 49ers Brock Purdy pic.twitter.com/fC0pQz54hP

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) June 14, 2023

But how many air yards?

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes.

These guys had a great take long before most of us knew much about him:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

All that does is prove he hasn't reached his ceiling.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Working on something for an article tomorrow

This has to be one of the more underrated moments of the year

First play from scrimmage in his first career start and Brock Purdy gets SMOKED by Keanu Neal

Moments like that make a lot of guys fold at the NFL level

Purdy didn't pic.twitter.com/h8HkgoJOts

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) June 23, 2023

Brock took some hard hits. He probably injured his ribs on that play and kept playing. He seems durable to me, getting his arm hit at the right timing/angle was unfortunate, but he seemed durable as for as taking hits and playing through pain

I rewatched that Cowboys game and Kyle called a QB delay up the middle in the RZ and the second he saw a DL bearing down on him, he got low and in the fetal position. I liked that feel and response. Smart.

Brock is pretty good at knowing when to kill a play. For a rookie, he was very good. That's honestly where he reminded me of Brees the most, his ability to kill plays that weren't there and move on to the next down

Agreed. It's hard

YEs.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I see 5 boxes checked for Brock. What are they? If he doesn't have a strong arm, doesn't have size and isn't really mobile then you can't say he checks all the boxes. Those 3 things may not be the most important but if you have those 3 things and do the other stuff well then you have true franchise QB that could end up in the HOF. You don't need those 3 things to be good especially when you're on a well stocked team but it's hard to be really great without those things.

I know Montana didn't have size or a rifle arm but he was mobile in his early career. Later the team was so good that he didn't need to rely on any athleticism.

Brock is pretty mobile what are you talking about. No, he's not going to be a huge designed run threat (although he can sneak one by you from time to time), but he's very good at eluding the rush and making a play with his arm.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I see 5 boxes checked for Brock. What are they? If he doesn't have a strong arm, doesn't have size and isn't really mobile then you can't say he checks all the boxes. Those 3 things may not be the most important but if you have those 3 things and do the other stuff well then you have true franchise QB that could end up in the HOF. You don't need those 3 things to be good especially when you're on a well stocked team but it's hard to be really great without those things.

I know Montana didn't have size or a rifle arm but he was mobile in his early career. Later the team was so good that he didn't need to rely on any athleticism.

Brock is pretty mobile what are you talking about. No, he's not going to be a huge designed run threat (although he can sneak one by you from time to time), but he's very good at eluding the rush and making a play with his arm.

+1
BCB has great pocket mobility and decent for the fist 10-20 yards past LOS... he's not Lamar Jackson running but very capable

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Only a boon in my opinion that he's not getting molded by shanahan in the off-season the way traditionally his QBs in the past have.

The more of the playbook and longer Kyle gets to work with them the worse they get if past is any indication.

They play brilliant with a limited playbook and then the more they get thrown into it the worse they get.

Just my opinion and I'm a shanahan hater so take that for what it's worth.

Purdy will be solid. His improvisation is what makes him so great. It's not kyles 1st and second reads getting us to 30 points a game. It's purdy scrambling and making first downs and bombs to the third or fourth read. Bailing out of trouble and throwing dimes with rushers in his face.

This bold is only true with jimmy. Lol with Schaub in Houston he got better. With Ryan's he did in Atl. Before jimmy, Kyle had a track record of QBs having MVP caliber seasons in year 2 of his system.

so I'm hoping he does that with Brock.

Kyle has gotten the most out of every QB, period

I can't believe there are Kyle haters.. probably the best thing that happened for the 49ers in a very long time

Yeah, I love having him as our coach. I think he does a great job with the offense, leading the overall team, creating a great culture, hiring awesome assistant coaches etc.

the only thing I think he sucks at is identifying who we should draft - regardless of the position. Lmao I feel like a majority of our 1-3 round picks that were misses are guys he fell in love with.

You mean trading up for Beathard and Petis lol. I will say though this tandem of Lynch and Shanahan have built an amazing roster. Changed the way I see drafts. I always check out the 5th rounders for stars. Hoping Jaylon Moore explodes this year haha.

no way we can have the team we have if the Org sucks at drafting

Yes sir...it does not matter where they draft their star's just they get them. This org is amazing. I think Shanahan's draft crushes are miss judged but does not really matter.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Only a boon in my opinion that he's not getting molded by shanahan in the off-season the way traditionally his QBs in the past have.

The more of the playbook and longer Kyle gets to work with them the worse they get if past is any indication.

They play brilliant with a limited playbook and then the more they get thrown into it the worse they get.

Just my opinion and I'm a shanahan hater so take that for what it's worth.

Purdy will be solid. His improvisation is what makes him so great. It's not kyles 1st and second reads getting us to 30 points a game. It's purdy scrambling and making first downs and bombs to the third or fourth read. Bailing out of trouble and throwing dimes with rushers in his face.

This bold is only true with jimmy. Lol with Schaub in Houston he got better. With Ryan's he did in Atl. Before jimmy, Kyle had a track record of QBs having MVP caliber seasons in year 2 of his system.

so I'm hoping he does that with Brock.

Kyle has gotten the most out of every QB, period

I can't believe there are Kyle haters.. probably the best thing that happened for the 49ers in a very long time

Yeah, I love having him as our coach. I think he does a great job with the offense, leading the overall team, creating a great culture, hiring awesome assistant coaches etc.

the only thing I think he sucks at is identifying who we should draft - regardless of the position. Lmao I feel like a majority of our 1-3 round picks that were misses are guys he fell in love with.

You mean trading up for Beathard and Petis lol. I will say though this tandem of Lynch and Shanahan have built an amazing roster. Changed the way I see drafts. I always check out the 5th rounders for stars. Hoping Jaylon Moore explodes this year haha.

no way we can have the team we have if the Org sucks at drafting

Well I think our scouting dept does a great job. Lol I just think Kyle butts in sometimes and overrules scouts.

They've done a great job building and maintaining this team, I think they've gotten better The longer they've been here. I was saying kyle specifically, not anyone else. Lol I also don't know if Kyle really does that, I'm just speculating.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

All that does is prove he hasn't reached his ceiling.

or if he continues to do that, his ceiling has been met

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Only a boon in my opinion that he's not getting molded by shanahan in the off-season the way traditionally his QBs in the past have.

The more of the playbook and longer Kyle gets to work with them the worse they get if past is any indication.

They play brilliant with a limited playbook and then the more they get thrown into it the worse they get.

Just my opinion and I'm a shanahan hater so take that for what it's worth.

Purdy will be solid. His improvisation is what makes him so great. It's not kyles 1st and second reads getting us to 30 points a game. It's purdy scrambling and making first downs and bombs to the third or fourth read. Bailing out of trouble and throwing dimes with rushers in his face.

This bold is only true with jimmy. Lol with Schaub in Houston he got better. With Ryan's he did in Atl. Before jimmy, Kyle had a track record of QBs having MVP caliber seasons in year 2 of his system.

so I'm hoping he does that with Brock.

Kyle has gotten the most out of every QB, period

I can't believe there are Kyle haters.. probably the best thing that happened for the 49ers in a very long time

Yeah, I love having him as our coach. I think he does a great job with the offense, leading the overall team, creating a great culture, hiring awesome assistant coaches etc.

the only thing I think he sucks at is identifying who we should draft - regardless of the position. Lmao I feel like a majority of our 1-3 round picks that were misses are guys he fell in love with.

You mean trading up for Beathard and Petis lol. I will say though this tandem of Lynch and Shanahan have built an amazing roster. Changed the way I see drafts. I always check out the 5th rounders for stars. Hoping Jaylon Moore explodes this year haha.

no way we can have the team we have if the Org sucks at drafting

Well I think our scouting dept does a great job. Lol I just think Kyle butts in sometimes and overrules scouts.

They've done a great job building and maintaining this team, I think they've gotten better The longer they've been here. I was saying kyle specifically, not anyone else. Lol I also don't know if Kyle really does that, I'm just speculating.

so kyle only picks bust and the scouts pick all the stars ?

Lol, they all deserve the credit or criticism

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.