QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I'm really interested to see Purdy now that coaches have tape on him and will be studying him all off season.

Well they had tape after his first few games last year, he just kept adjusting. A defensive coordinator said it only takes like 2-3 games of tape before you can start fully planning for someone.

but I do agree that he will have to continue expanding/improving his game if he wants to continue playing at a high level. It'll be hard to take away parts of his game because we have so many quality skill players across each position. CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice and now potentially Latu/Bryant (new TEs). You can't double cover all of them, so as long as Purdy keeps making the right reads and throws, it'll be hard to stop him.

it isn't like he was running a gimmick offense and was beating everyone cause he can run fast or anything, he just was playing at a very high level. I'm optimistic that it'll be a non factor but it'll be interesting to watch. A big reason why I'm curious if he will be in camp when it starts is so he can start getting plays down and reps as much as possible before the season starts.

By now most people know it's the offense that Kyle runs more than the QB. His offense doesn't require the QB to go out nad make amazing plays all day. Just be smart accurate and don't turn the ball over. As far a Brock is concerned, the league has seen enough of him to know he's not going to beat you with a lot of deep throws or with dazzling runs. The one tendency he showed last season is the backwards and to the left side retreat when under pressure. My biggest concern is that he will try and do more than last year and force throws that get deflected and intercepted.

At least that is something he can work on and easily change. Just work more on stepping up into the Pocket when there is one.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I'm really interested to see Purdy now that coaches have tape on him and will be studying him all off season.

Well they had tape after his first few games last year, he just kept adjusting. A defensive coordinator said it only takes like 2-3 games of tape before you can start fully planning for someone.

but I do agree that he will have to continue expanding/improving his game if he wants to continue playing at a high level. It'll be hard to take away parts of his game because we have so many quality skill players across each position. CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice and now potentially Latu/Bryant (new TEs). You can't double cover all of them, so as long as Purdy keeps making the right reads and throws, it'll be hard to stop him.

it isn't like he was running a gimmick offense and was beating everyone cause he can run fast or anything, he just was playing at a very high level. I'm optimistic that it'll be a non factor but it'll be interesting to watch. A big reason why I'm curious if he will be in camp when it starts is so he can start getting plays down and reps as much as possible before the season starts.

By now most people know it's the offense that Kyle runs more than the QB. His offense doesn't require the QB to go out nad make amazing plays all day. Just be smart accurate and don't turn the ball over. As far a Brock is concerned, the league has seen enough of him to know he's not going to beat you with a lot of deep throws or with dazzling runs. The one tendency he showed last season is the backwards and to the left side retreat when under pressure. My biggest concern is that he will try and do more than last year and force throws that get deflected and intercepted.

At least that is something he can work on and easily change. Just work more on stepping up into the Pocket when there is one.

Let's hope this years O-line can provide that pocket. It's going to be new again this year with McGlinchey gone. That may turn out okay but there's going to be a learning period for this unit to jell.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:

I'm really interested to see Purdy now that coaches have tape on him and will be studying him all off season.

Well they had tape after his first few games last year, he just kept adjusting. A defensive coordinator said it only takes like 2-3 games of tape before you can start fully planning for someone.

but I do agree that he will have to continue expanding/improving his game if he wants to continue playing at a high level. It'll be hard to take away parts of his game because we have so many quality skill players across each position. CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice and now potentially Latu/Bryant (new TEs). You can't double cover all of them, so as long as Purdy keeps making the right reads and throws, it'll be hard to stop him.

it isn't like he was running a gimmick offense and was beating everyone cause he can run fast or anything, he just was playing at a very high level. I'm optimistic that it'll be a non factor but it'll be interesting to watch. A big reason why I'm curious if he will be in camp when it starts is so he can start getting plays down and reps as much as possible before the season starts.

By now most people know it's the offense that Kyle runs more than the QB. His offense doesn't require the QB to go out nad make amazing plays all day. Just be smart accurate and don't turn the ball over. As far a Brock is concerned, the league has seen enough of him to know he's not going to beat you with a lot of deep throws or with dazzling runs. The one tendency he showed last season is the backwards and to the left side retreat when under pressure. My biggest concern is that he will try and do more than last year and force throws that get deflected and intercepted.

Ideally this is how all coaches want their offense to run, but It doesn't always happen that way. It takes good players to execute. If Kyles offense was really that great he'd have a SB after however long he's been around.

The narrative that anybody can step in and run Kyles system is at an all time high right now (mainly because he set the depth chart backwards last year lol) but real fans know only Jimmy and Brock have had more than a 2-3 game stretch of good games since Kyle has been here.

Brock has mentioned bailing clean pockets as something he needs to improve on, so it's just a matter of if he can cutback on that or not. Mahomes bails out of clean pockets more than any coach would want, but he makes it work. Nobody is perfect

Is this dude done faking his injury?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Is this dude done faking his injury?

Not much benefit in stopping now before TC has even started.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Is this dude done faking his injury?

Not much benefit in stopping now before TC has even started.

Haha.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Is this dude done faking his injury?

Too bad it's not a finger injury, could have milked it for two training camps

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Is this dude done faking his injury?

Too bad it's not a finger injury, could have milked it for two training camps

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
His football IQ is high for a veteran, forget a rookie.

I mean IQ's term that's recognized to begin with as non-improvable. A "natural instict" term so the vet and rookie thing shouldnt apply.

You're not serious, right?

Lol no idea what he is even trying to say.

Brock has very high football IQ and it's awesome. Sees the game extremely well and should just improve. It's exciting

in my opinion, football IQ has a lot to do with overall awareness of what's going on throughout the entire field, why it's happening, what is likely to follow it. While also being very aware of the rules/best option available given the circumstances. Being able to not only process all of that quickly but have studied all the different aspects.

for example, not every player studies the rule books or keeps up with them. Mcnabb said after a game that he didn't even know a tie was possible. Lmao so it's just cool on a play like the one where the o line men were already upfield, he knew he couldnt pass it at that point snd tried to buy time to recoup some yards before he eventually went out of bounds for a short loss. He mitigated the overall yard loss and avoided the penalty but not every young player would of realized all of that in the moment. I didn't even realize what he was doing until I had a chance to think about it and the announcer explained it

I think what he is saying is that you are born with your intelligence quotient. It's not something that you can improve. And football IQ is otherwise known as "it". Brock appears to have it.

Wasn't really this hard, was it? I mean Google's still a thing, but thanks for helping these guys out, lol.

The fact you're saying you can't improve your IQ made me assume you were making a backhanded joke. Since you definitely can improve your IQ… a simple google search would tell you.

Most of it is genetic or developed in the early stages but nevermind that, as I'm referring to the "TERM",..."Football IQ",...more than the reality.

The football IQ of a veteran vs. a rookie makes little sense, as prospects are complimented all the time on football IQ but not in relation to their experience. It's pretty clear you're to me that you're lost on it,.... but so long as several in here agree with the nonsense (because they're in your camp, lol), I guess that gives you a pass. Continue on?

Football IQ is usually something developed over time of playing football. The overall awareness of a rookie on an NFL field usually isn't crazy good cause they're catching up to the speed of the game, learning a new offense, learning complex defensive schemes etc. as they play more and see more, they tend to have a higher football IQ.

I do agree that in general, IQ is genetic. I do think it's part of the IT factor. I just disagree that there isn't typically a difference in football IQ for rookies vs vets and I think it's extremely impressive when a rookie has the field awareness of someone that's been playing for 8+ years.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I'm really interested to see Purdy now that coaches have tape on him and will be studying him all off season.

Well they had tape after his first few games last year, he just kept adjusting. A defensive coordinator said it only takes like 2-3 games of tape before you can start fully planning for someone.

but I do agree that he will have to continue expanding/improving his game if he wants to continue playing at a high level. It'll be hard to take away parts of his game because we have so many quality skill players across each position. CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice and now potentially Latu/Bryant (new TEs). You can't double cover all of them, so as long as Purdy keeps making the right reads and throws, it'll be hard to stop him.

it isn't like he was running a gimmick offense and was beating everyone cause he can run fast or anything, he just was playing at a very high level. I'm optimistic that it'll be a non factor but it'll be interesting to watch. A big reason why I'm curious if he will be in camp when it starts is so he can start getting plays down and reps as much as possible before the season starts.

By now most people know it's the offense that Kyle runs more than the QB. His offense doesn't require the QB to go out nad make amazing plays all day. Just be smart accurate and don't turn the ball over. As far a Brock is concerned, the league has seen enough of him to know he's not going to beat you with a lot of deep throws or with dazzling runs. The one tendency he showed last season is the backwards and to the left side retreat when under pressure. My biggest concern is that he will try and do more than last year and force throws that get deflected and intercepted.

Ideally this is how all coaches want their offense to run, but It doesn't always happen that way. It takes good players to execute. If Kyles offense was really that great he'd have a SB after however long he's been around.

The narrative that anybody can step in and run Kyles system is at an all time high right now (mainly because he set the depth chart backwards last year lol) but real fans know only Jimmy and Brock have had more than a 2-3 game stretch of good games since Kyle has been here.

Brock has mentioned bailing clean pockets as something he needs to improve on, so it's just a matter of if he can cutback on that or not. Mahomes bails out of clean pockets more than any coach would want, but he makes it work. Nobody is perfect

I've never been much of a fan when it comes to saying that sometbing is all the system or sometbing is all the QB. I think it takes two to tango. So you need a QB to play at a high level to run an offense at a high level. The qb also needs to be in a great system/coaching to get the most out of them.

yes, Kyle has a very QB friendly offense (outside of injures hahaha) and it's why I take issue when a QB sucks in it. I think thay says a lot about the QB.

like I think there was a huge difference in the way the team looked with Brock than jimmy and I thought Jimmy was doing a good job. Jimmie's limitations held back the offenses potential and the offense got a lot out of what Jimmy did best.

i think it takes a great combo of QB/Coach to make something work at a top tier level. I think Mahomes will do great anywhere but I think Andy Reid puts him in position to be special like he is. Takes greatness from both sides, IMO.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I've never been much of a fan when it comes to saying that sometbing is all the system or sometbing is all the QB. I think it takes two to tango. So you need a QB to play at a high level to run an offense at a high level. The qb also needs to be in a great system/coaching to get the most out of them.

yes, Kyle has a very QB friendly offense (outside of injures hahaha) and it's why I take issue when a QB sucks in it. I think thay says a lot about the QB.

like I think there was a huge difference in the way the team looked with Brock than jimmy and I thought Jimmy was doing a good job. Jimmie's limitations held back the offenses potential and the offense got a lot out of what Jimmy did best.

i think it takes a great combo of QB/Coach to make something work at a top tier level. I think Mahomes will do great anywhere but I think Andy Reid puts him in position to be special like he is. Takes greatness from both sides, IMO.

100 percent.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Football IQ is usually something developed over time of playing football.

This is not the context the term is used in. There are countless examples.

They'll just say a dude is experienced. A "vet" as you said. "Aged." "Experienced." "Seen it all."

This isint at all what people mean when they say someone has a high football IQ, and theyre much moreso referring to natural instincts and the ability to figure out NEW things.

Maybe u can see the contrast between that and referring to old vets that have old things figured out already. Or maybe not?

But "High Football IQs" can be younger guys and when i see the term, it usually is.

Correlation,... not causation.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I've never been much of a fan when it comes to saying that sometbing is all the system or sometbing is all the QB. I think it takes two to tango. So you need a QB to play at a high level to run an offense at a high level. The qb also needs to be in a great system/coaching to get the most out of them.

yes, Kyle has a very QB friendly offense (outside of injures hahaha) and it's why I take issue when a QB sucks in it. I think thay says a lot about the QB.

like I think there was a huge difference in the way the team looked with Brock than jimmy and I thought Jimmy was doing a good job. Jimmie's limitations held back the offenses potential and the offense got a lot out of what Jimmy did best.

i think it takes a great combo of QB/Coach to make something work at a top tier level. I think Mahomes will do great anywhere but I think Andy Reid puts him in position to be special like he is. Takes greatness from both sides, IMO.

100 percent.

I've said this before and I think it's still true. Purdy played at a higher level than Jimmy ever has, but it still remains to be seen if Purdy is a better player than Jimmy. I think he will be. But this year will answer a lot of questions IMO.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:

I'm really interested to see Purdy now that coaches have tape on him and will be studying him all off season.

Well they had tape after his first few games last year, he just kept adjusting. A defensive coordinator said it only takes like 2-3 games of tape before you can start fully planning for someone.

but I do agree that he will have to continue expanding/improving his game if he wants to continue playing at a high level. It'll be hard to take away parts of his game because we have so many quality skill players across each position. CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice and now potentially Latu/Bryant (new TEs). You can't double cover all of them, so as long as Purdy keeps making the right reads and throws, it'll be hard to stop him.

it isn't like he was running a gimmick offense and was beating everyone cause he can run fast or anything, he just was playing at a very high level. I'm optimistic that it'll be a non factor but it'll be interesting to watch. A big reason why I'm curious if he will be in camp when it starts is so he can start getting plays down and reps as much as possible before the season starts.

By now most people know it's the offense that Kyle runs more than the QB. His offense doesn't require the QB to go out nad make amazing plays all day. Just be smart accurate and don't turn the ball over. As far a Brock is concerned, the league has seen enough of him to know he's not going to beat you with a lot of deep throws or with dazzling runs. The one tendency he showed last season is the backwards and to the left side retreat when under pressure. My biggest concern is that he will try and do more than last year and force throws that get deflected and intercepted.

Ideally this is how all coaches want their offense to run, but It doesn't always happen that way. It takes good players to execute. If Kyles offense was really that great he'd have a SB after however long he's been around.

The narrative that anybody can step in and run Kyles system is at an all time high right now (mainly because he set the depth chart backwards last year lol) but real fans know only Jimmy and Brock have had more than a 2-3 game stretch of good games since Kyle has been here.

Brock has mentioned bailing clean pockets as something he needs to improve on, so it's just a matter of if he can cutback on that or not. Mahomes bails out of clean pockets more than any coach would want, but he makes it work. Nobody is perfect

I've never been much of a fan when it comes to saying that sometbing is all the system or sometbing is all the QB. I think it takes two to tango. So you need a QB to play at a high level to run an offense at a high level. The qb also needs to be in a great system/coaching to get the most out of them.

yes, Kyle has a very QB friendly offense (outside of injures hahaha) and it's why I take issue when a QB sucks in it. I think thay says a lot about the QB.

like I think there was a huge difference in the way the team looked with Brock than jimmy and I thought Jimmy was doing a good job. Jimmie's limitations held back the offenses potential and the offense got a lot out of what Jimmy did best.

i think it takes a great combo of QB/Coach to make something work at a top tier level. I think Mahomes will do great anywhere but I think Andy Reid puts him in position to be special like he is. Takes greatness from both sides, IMO.

We can say Joe was nothing and it was all Bill. Brady was called a system QB until he left NE. We can say Mahomes isn't that great because Andy makes things easy.

Truth is coaches are nothing without good players. There isn't a coach that can take bad players and just go out and win SBs with their system

Football IQ is the ability to see a known situation, whether it's a pre snap lineup, drops of defensive players, etc., and from that know how to apply your offense to that, whether it be the play call to check into, who to look off, who to expect to likely get open and when, where to go with the ball, etc. You have to understand defensive concepts and your offensive options before you can apply it, and your IQ determines how fast you can do that. It's also having the judgement to apply that appropriately in the game situation, evaluating risks and having a good feel for whether it's appropriate to take them or not.

IQ helps you acquire and apply knowledge quickly, and it is genetic and acquired in your first 15 years of life. It doesn't work in a vacuum without knowledge.