QB Brock Purdy Thread

Seems like a few of you may have missed the playoff game vs. Dallas, so here are are Purdy's highlights to show that he did indeed play a good game.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well I'm not saying Brock isn't the starter. I'm saying Kyle isn't going to keep playing him if he turns into 2011 Alex Smith. Which he won't. But if he did...

You don't know if he will or won't.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Seems like a few of you may have missed the playoff game vs. Dallas, so here are are Purdy's highlights to show that he did indeed play a good game.

How about all his throws? Not just highlights.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Kittle is saying pretty much what I've been saying overall. Trey is a starting caliber qb in this league, he just needs a ton of reps because he's so inexperienced. I think like two years of reps before we know what he is.

besides that, it's Brock's job to lose. If he comes back and continued where he was, that's a wrap (and stays healthy).

I don't know why so many folks have such a hard time understanding this. I don't know how much more work Trey needs, hope we have some games we can get him into because we have them comfortably in hand.

It would be cool if we have some garbage time games he can play in but I mainly think he will see the field in those trick packages, especially if he is healthy. We can line him up out there and create confusion for the defense - even with Brock at QB. I think that's the most likely way he sees the field without injuries.

I don't think people are disagreeing that Brock is the leader in the club house. Most in here have stated that Lance NEEDS reps and that was talked about as soon as he was drafted. They should have known that when he was the pick.

That's why I said he needed to play. He's not gonna improve much by sitting. It was poor development and bad luck (injuries) imo. If you're making a move like they did, you need to be all in on the kid. Not letting him sit for a yr and play a dead man walking QB. THEN resigning that same dude the following yr. You have to accept the process and understand he's not gonna be josh Allen day 1. You also don't need him to be that (on this roster) to still win games. That's been proven.

Brock came in and made the most of his opportunities. He should get first crack at it. They however have nothing invested in him. If he doesn't come out and maintain his play, they're not married to him at all. It's the truth of it. If he balls out, sweet we got our dude. I. Do. Not. Want. another safe play at QB with limited upside to be that elite level guy. I don't want a QB that needs everything else around him to be great to be super successful. Not "just" a game manager. I have no idea where Brock falls within there, no one does. A couple games is just that…a couple games. We will see, I hope he is the dude.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Kittle is saying pretty much what I've been saying overall. Trey is a starting caliber qb in this league, he just needs a ton of reps because he's so inexperienced. I think like two years of reps before we know what he is.

besides that, it's Brock's job to lose. If he comes back and continued where he was, that's a wrap (and stays healthy).

I don't know why so many folks have such a hard time understanding this. I don't know how much more work Trey needs, hope we have some games we can get him into because we have them comfortably in hand.

It would be cool if we have some garbage time games he can play in but I mainly think he will see the field in those trick packages, especially if he is healthy. We can line him up out there and create confusion for the defense - even with Brock at QB. I think that's the most likely way he sees the field without injuries.

I don't think people are disagreeing that Brock is the leader in the club house. Most in here have stated that Lance NEEDS reps and that was talked about as soon as he was drafted. They should have known that when he was the pick.

That's why I said he needed to play. He's not gonna improve much by sitting. It was poor development and bad luck (injuries) imo. If you're making a move like they did, you need to be all in on the kid. Not letting him sit for a yr and play a dead man walking QB. THEN resigning that same dude the following yr. You have to accept the process and understand he's not gonna be josh Allen day 1. You also don't need him to be that (on this roster) to still win games. That's been proven.

Brock came in and made the most of his opportunities. He should get first crack at it. They however have nothing invested in him. If he doesn't come out and maintain his play, they're not married to him at all. It's the truth of it. If he balls out, sweet we got our dude. I. Do. Not. Want. another safe play at QB with limited upside to be that elite level guy. I don't want a QB that needs everything else around him to be great to be super successful. Not "just" a game manager. I have no idea where Brock falls within there, no one does. A couple games is just that…a couple games. We will see, I hope he is the dude.

I understand it is a different era, but this isn't how Bill Walsh did it. Throwing such a young project-QB to the wolves fails far more often than not.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Seems like a few of you may have missed the playoff game vs. Dallas, so here are are Purdy's highlights to show that he did indeed play a good game.

but that game doesn't count because Purdy was playing in a dome, his check down behind the LOS number was 83.41%, and his average drop back yards was 1.48

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I understand it is a different era, but this isn't how Bill Walsh did it. Throwing such a young project-QB to the wolves fails far more often than not.

You're right it's a much different era with cap requirements.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
You're being disingenuous with this post NY, trying to compare Trey's game against the s**tty Texans defense to a playoff game against a team with one of the top pass rushes in the Cowboys. Those two teams are about as far apart in talent and coaching as two teams can be.
Did I misunderstand what you were getting at?

Where in the hell am I comparing to two games? The closest I got to comparing the two is I used football outsiders DVOA to look up their defensive ranks in a given year.

So yeah you misunderstood, completely.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well I'm not saying Brock isn't the starter. I'm saying Kyle isn't going to keep playing him if he turns into 2011 Alex Smith. Which he won't. But if he did...

You don't know if he will or won't.

I'd say I'd have a 99% chance of being right that if Brock goes 6 or 7 games playing horribly and we're not winning that he will put Trey or Sam in.

Let me just say this to both sides of this argument:

(1) The Texans defense when we played them last was better than their raw stats indicate. Bad offense makes your defense worse, and they were the 32nd best offense.

(2) The Cowboys defense last year was also better than their statistics indicate. Their pass rush in particular. That was a great defense .Absolutely on par with our defense. The fact that Brock didn't cost us is remarkable. He remained quite poised in the face of maybe the second best pass rush (we had the best pass rusher, but the Eagles and Cowboys had better team pass rush, IMHO; they were tied with the Eagles at 52% pass rush win rate. We were only 46%).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams

One of Brock's "near interception" I keep seeing posted here was a tipped pass. The kid played very well. He missed a few things, sure. Was late a couple times, yeah. But he avoided the game-losing mistake. We lost by two scores if Jimmy is our QB in that game.

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So, both sides of this Trey v. Brock argument are underestimating how good the other side's QB is. Trey is not trash, and Brock is not just a lucky one hit wonder.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I understand it is a different era, but this isn't how Bill Walsh did it. Throwing such a young project-QB to the wolves fails far more often than not.

You're right it's a much different era with cap requirements.

Even so, cap number shouldn't necessarily factor into playing time. It should always be earned through hard work and competition. The situation this season is far more palatable than last season, where the job was simply handed out. But, they never expected JG to remain with the team. There were a lot of strange factors last season.

Work hard and compete, and let the chips fall where they may. Best player plays.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Seems like a few of you may have missed the playoff game vs. Dallas, so here are are Purdy's highlights to show that he did indeed play a good game.

What kind of "Highlight" reel starts with a 4 yard pass on 3rd and 19?

Purdy had a couple of nice passes in the game, don't think anyone has said he didn't.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
He did a lot more than manage the offense imo

For the most part I'll respectfully disagree. Not saying he didn't extend plays every once in a while. It's not a negative to say he managed the offense, that a huge part of being a QB.

Fingers crossed Lance can get to the point where he can competently manage an offense

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I understand it is a different era, but this isn't how Bill Walsh did it. Throwing such a young project-QB to the wolves fails far more often than not.

You're right it's a much different era with cap requirements.

Even so, cap number shouldn't necessarily factor into playing time. It should always be earned through hard work and competition. The situation this season is far more palatable than last season, where the job was simply handed out. But, they never expected JG to remain with the team. There were a lot of strange factors last season.

Work hard and compete, and let the chips fall where they may. Best player plays.

Everyone says this and points to last year as the exception, but when has this been true on the team when it comes to the starting QB role? Jimmy never had to compete for the starting job once he signed his deal here.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I'd say I'd have a 99% chance of being right that if Brock goes 6 or 7 games playing horribly and we're not winning that he will put Trey or Sam in.

Oh stop it lol. I'm sure you were 99% right that Jimmy would be inconsistent, injury prone, have tunnel vision after that 2017 season lol. I'm sure you thought Josh allen was gonna be the face of EA sports after his first 170 passing attempts his rookie yr. I'm sure you thought Hurts would be one of the highest paid players after watching his first 170 passing attempts too

people tossing out claims like this after a ridiculously small sample size is part of the issue I have with all of it.