QB Brock Purdy Thread

Wow. Much strawman.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We seem to do some sketchy things with our qb injuries. Lol. They had to know Lance was hurting, there is no way they didn't. Which I find hilarious cause we seem to take other players injuries more serious and give them more time

they let Brock play when he could barely tbrow against seattle. Lol

for some reason Jimmy didn't get surgery on his foot…. Lol

it's like we convince them the injury isn't that bad. Hahah watch jimmy sue the 49ers if this raiders contract goes sour.

Reports are Jimmy delayed surgery so he could potentially come back at the end of the playoffs. Obviously, no one knows but Jimmy and his circle...but that seems very plausible to me.

As far as Lance's finger, you are assuming he was hurting. When a finger heals (even if it heals incorrectly), the pain doesnt remain. Chances are it just healed crooked or something. I broke a finger before and it healed slightly bent. It is still like that today, and it doesnt hurt.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Wow. Much strawman.

Sometimes reality is hard to take in for a lot of people

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Wow. Much strawman.

Sometimes reality is hard to take in for a lot of people

Bro - you are raging against people that don't exist. You've created your own reality to argue in.

What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year.

Many many people have discussed how Brock can get better and has the tools to do so.

All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

Who ARE these people? BCB exceeded all expectations and the rational people on here want the best QB on the roster to be the starter. Others are invested in one or the other succeeding or failing rather that team success. None of us can predict the future. There is tape on BCB and his propensity to roll left, etc. He needs to fix that. He can and should. He might not. NO. ONE. KNOWS with 100% certainty.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward.

WHO is "a lot of you"?

Why aren't any of you acknowledging this?

People are.

It is utterly ridiculous.

It would be but the assumption is not reality based.

The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out.

They can if he only rolls and runs one way every time.

Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

WHO IS DOING THIS?

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Wow. Much strawman.

Sometimes reality is hard to take in for a lot of people

Bro - you are raging against people that don't exist. You've created your own reality to argue in.

What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year.

Many many people have discussed how Brock can get better and has the tools to do so.

All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

Who ARE these people? BCB exceeded all expectations and the rational people on here want the best QB on the roster to be the starter. Others are invested in one or the other succeeding or failing rather that team success. None of us can predict the future. There is tape on BCB and his propensity to roll left, etc. He needs to fix that. He can and should. He might not. NO. ONE. KNOWS with 100% certainty.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward.

WHO is "a lot of you"?

Why aren't any of you acknowledging this?

People are.

It is utterly ridiculous.

It would be but the assumption is not reality based.

The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out.

They can if he only rolls and runs one way every time.

Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

WHO IS DOING THIS?

You obviously missed what a lot of people are saying in this thread and especially the Trey Lance thread. "Raging?????" Who's raging bro. You're in denial if you think a lot of people aren't acknowledging Purdy can improve from year one. Not that they don't think that is a possibility, it's rarely said when discussing that defenses will figure him out. I can't believe you missed that. CAPITALIZING and underlining sentences won't change reality. Sorry bro.

Originally posted by elguapo:
What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year. All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward. Why aren't any of you acknowledging this? It is utterly ridiculous. The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out. Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

Great point... no doubt BCB will improve from year 1 to year 2, the classic sophomore year jump.... he gonna be much better which is a scary thought for the rest of the league

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NDSU:
Rushing Purdy back will probably end up with him getting injured again.
He will probably rush himself back if he feels like his #1 spot is in jeopardy to Lance.
This team and QB injuries, its crazy.

Outside of your wildly biased view towards Lance. What about that statement is funny? Young QB that this team has nothing invested in might try to rush back to make sure he maintains his spot? He might be in a rush to actually play football in the off season…Instead of heal properly. I mean I doubt the team allows it, but let's keep it real this team doesn't seem to be good with injuries or give two s**ts about letting so and so maintain their spot on a roster. If you stack up good days throughout the off season. You're gonna play.

I'm just laughing cause people from NDSU sound worried. Lol at rushing Purdy back, no that's not gonna happen. And besides why would they rush him back when they got Darnold and Lance??

The only time they had to rush Purdy or force Purdy to play was in the NFCC, when they had no one.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We seem to do some sketchy things with our qb injuries. Lol. They had to know Lance was hurting, there is no way they didn't. Which I find hilarious cause we seem to take other players injuries more serious and give them more time

they let Brock play when he could barely tbrow against seattle. Lol

for some reason Jimmy didn't get surgery on his foot…. Lol

it's like we convince them the injury isn't that bad. Hahah watch jimmy sue the 49ers if this raiders contract goes sour.

Reports are Jimmy delayed surgery so he could potentially come back at the end of the playoffs. Obviously, no one knows but Jimmy and his circle...but that seems very plausible to me.

As far as Lance's finger, you are assuming he was hurting. When a finger heals (even if it heals incorrectly), the pain doesnt remain. Chances are it just healed crooked or something. I broke a finger before and it healed slightly bent. It is still like that today, and it doesnt hurt.

I imagine the team had to know he was working on his grip strength cause he was having problems and that it was impacting his mechanics. I thought it was strange that his mechanics didn't look improved going into his second year, that's usually when you see a big difference - like we are this year.

idk if we really did know anything but I'd be shocked if we didn't. Or maybe they didn't look into it? Who knows and oh well. It's past

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by elguapo:
What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year. All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward. Why aren't any of you acknowledging this? It is utterly ridiculous. The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out. Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

Great point... no doubt BCB will improve from year 1 to year 2, the classic sophomore year jump.... he gonna be much better which is a scary thought for the rest of the league

Yeah the improvements will far outweigh the defenses figuring him out. Also, tendencies can be worked on and corrected which I'm sure Purdy will do. Unlike Kaepernick or Garoppolo he works on this during the off-season.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Great point... no doubt BCB will improve from year 1 to year 2, the classic sophomore year jump.... he gonna be much better which is a scary thought for the rest of the league

you got me with the classic sophomore jump

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Wow. Much strawman.

Sometimes reality is hard to take in for a lot of people

Bro - you are raging against people that don't exist. You've created your own reality to argue in.

What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year.

Many many people have discussed how Brock can get better and has the tools to do so.

All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

Who ARE these people? BCB exceeded all expectations and the rational people on here want the best QB on the roster to be the starter. Others are invested in one or the other succeeding or failing rather that team success. None of us can predict the future. There is tape on BCB and his propensity to roll left, etc. He needs to fix that. He can and should. He might not. NO. ONE. KNOWS with 100% certainty.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward.

WHO is "a lot of you"?

Why aren't any of you acknowledging this?

People are.

It is utterly ridiculous.

It would be but the assumption is not reality based.

The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out.

They can if he only rolls and runs one way every time.

Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

WHO IS DOING THIS?

You obviously missed what a lot of people are saying in this thread and especially the Trey Lance thread. "Raging?????" Who's raging bro. You're in denial if you think a lot of people aren't acknowledging Purdy can improve from year one. Not that they don't think that is a possibility, it's rarely said when discussing that defenses will figure him out. I can't believe you missed that. CAPITALIZING and underlining sentences won't change reality. Sorry bro.

Well, you seem very upset about the thoughts of a vocal minority that seem to irk you. Their views are not reality. Reality is this: BCB exceeded expectations and has the tools to continue to improve. He also must contend with rehab. Also, NO ONE knows with certainty what he will do next year. Indications are that he will continue to improve and be the starter, but there are no guarantees.

As for this: You're in denial if you think a lot of people aren't acknowledging Purdy can improve from year one. Not that they don't think that is a possibility, it's rarely said when discussing that defenses will figure him out. I can't believe you missed that

I missed it because I don't understand what you are trying to say. The grammar and syntax makes no sense to me. Is your claim that a lot of people don't see improvement as even a possibility? Like its not even a 1% chance? If so, that's a preposterous position for them to take and certainly not a position based in reality that merits paragraphs of text to respond to. Or, instead, are you stating that ... you know what... I have no idea what the point is as those three sentences are written. Can you clarify?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Great point... no doubt BCB will improve from year 1 to year 2, the classic sophomore year jump.... he gonna be much better which is a scary thought for the rest of the league

you got me with the classic sophomore jump

And you had me at hello

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Well, you seem very upset about the thoughts of a vocal minority that seem to irk you. Their views are not reality. Reality is this: BCB exceeded expectations and has the tools to continue to improve. He also must contend with rehab. Also, NO ONE knows with certainty what he will do next year. Indications are that he will continue to improve and be the starter, but there are no guarantees.

As for this: You're in denial if you think a lot of people aren't acknowledging Purdy can improve from year one. Not that they don't think that is a possibility, it's rarely said when discussing that defenses will figure him out. I can't believe you missed that

I missed it because I don't understand what you are trying to say. The grammar and syntax makes no sense to me. Is your claim that a lot of people don't see improvement as even a possibility? Like its not even a 1% chance? If so, that's a preposterous position for them to take and certainly not a position based in reality that merits paragraphs of text to respond to. Or, instead, are you stating that ... you know what... I have no idea what the point is as those three sentences are written. Can you clarify?

Of course I can clarify, it seems quite obvious but I will explain it to you because everyone else seems to get what I'm saying. Maybe you're just trying to make a point by the essays you write. All I am trying to say which I said in my first post very clearly is people that say defenses will figure Brock Purdy out and do not say in fairness that he could possibly improve from his rookie season. They use that as an example as to why he may not be as good as he was being the number one rated quarterback in the games he played. I hope that's clear enough for you. Both things can be true, however Purdy can work on his tendencies to keep defenses off balance.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by elguapo:
What almost every single person talking about Purdy missed, whether it's in support of Lance or not, is that he may actually IMPROVE in his second year. All of you expecting defenses to "figure him out" either aren't thinking this through or are biased because they want to make a point and diminish what he did as a rookie which was historical.

So even if defenses "figure him out" like a lot of you are saying, that will more than get canceled out or outweighed by the improvements Purdy could make from year one onward. Why aren't any of you acknowledging this? It is utterly ridiculous. The fact that he can extend plays and throw on the run is a factor that defenses mostly cannot figure out. Look at our number one defense. It always has trouble against quarterbacks that are mobile and make unscripted plays. Brock is one of those qbs and he proved that last year. It's just hilarious. I just don't see how more people or analysts aren't considering how much improvement he can make from year one. They just keep repeating defenses can figure him out

Great point... no doubt BCB will improve from year 1 to year 2, the classic sophomore year jump.... he gonna be much better which is a scary thought for the rest of the league

Yeah the improvements will far outweigh the defenses figuring him out. Also, tendencies can be worked on and corrected which I'm sure Purdy will do. Unlike Kaepernick or Garoppolo he works on this during the off-season.

I think a lot of folks forgot that QBs USUALLY IMPROVE with experience and age. Lol that's what soured me in Jimmy, even though I still like and support him, but he never really got much better. He tended to make bonehead mistakes over and over again.

if Brock gets better, which everything says he will, it'll be a beautiful thing. He should get much better. I think he will improve on hitting his first read more often. I think his pocket presence will be improved. His timing with skill players will be improved. Etc. His experience last year was huge and will be great for him to study this off-season, like he has.

there's 0 reason to assume he won't, unless you're subconsciously hoping he doesn't.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Well, you seem very upset about the thoughts of a vocal minority that seem to irk you. Their views are not reality. Reality is this: BCB exceeded expectations and has the tools to continue to improve. He also must contend with rehab. Also, NO ONE knows with certainty what he will do next year. Indications are that he will continue to improve and be the starter, but there are no guarantees.

As for this: You're in denial if you think a lot of people aren't acknowledging Purdy can improve from year one. Not that they don't think that is a possibility, it's rarely said when discussing that defenses will figure him out. I can't believe you missed that

I missed it because I don't understand what you are trying to say. The grammar and syntax makes no sense to me. Is your claim that a lot of people don't see improvement as even a possibility? Like its not even a 1% chance? If so, that's a preposterous position for them to take and certainly not a position based in reality that merits paragraphs of text to respond to. Or, instead, are you stating that ... you know what... I have no idea what the point is as those three sentences are written. Can you clarify?

Of course I can clarify, it seems quite obvious but I will explain it to you because everyone else seems to get what I'm saying. Maybe you're just trying to make a point by the essays you write. All I am trying to say which I said in my first post very clearly is people that say defenses will figure Brock Purdy out and do not say in fairness that he could possibly improve from his rookie season. They use that as an example as to why he may not be as good as he was being the number one rated quarterback in the games he played. I hope that's clear enough for you. Both things can be true, however Purdy can work on his tendencies to keep defenses off balance.

That helps somewhat. I wouldn't let yourself get all worked up about silly extreme positions taken by a few people with an axe to grind.