QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Yeah it's hard to be a leader when you haven't proven it. I think both players act like leaders, but only Purdy has proven himself on the field so far. I haven't been this excited to see a 49ers offense in a long time. Purdy is just that good IMO.

All in on Brock huh? I'm just not there yet…I think the offense overall is just that good. Jimmy was cooking all the same for 4 games before the injury.

I need to see a larger sample size of the same consistent play to be all in on BCB. If he's out there swinging the big dick all season, well we got ourself a legit stud. We will see!

Yup. I believe that Purdy can be a high-end starter in this league but I haven't given up on Trey like so many have.

All I've ever wanted was a QB who can extend plays with his feet, and at least have the mindset of wanting to threaten teams in the deep part of the field.

I think Purdy can do both, although his arm strength isn't a massive strength like Trey's arm is IMO.

Brock HAS to have great feet if he doesn't want to be late on his throws, ever. He doesn't have the velocity to make up for it like a Darnold/Lance has.
which really isn't a big deal and he's aware of that, hence working on his feet.

brock displayed pretty much everything I want to see from a qb. Now we just need him to continue doing it. That and heal properly. I don't really have any concerns about him. He was fixing most of his mistakes in games by the second half, extremely impressive.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
All in on Brock huh? I'm just not there yet…I think the offense overall is just that good. Jimmy was cooking all the same for 4 games before the injury.

I need to see a larger sample size of the same consistent play to be all in on BCB. If he's out there swinging the big dick all season, well we got ourself a legit stud. We will see!

Eh Jimmy didn't cook too well against New Orleans or the Chargers. 9ers absolutely do not put up 28 points in a half on Tampa with Jimmy.

I'm all in on Brock being an upgrade on what we've had at QB since Shanny took over. The question will be is he the elite guy we need to build a champion. That is where the jury is stil out.

Yeah, people saying Jimmy was cooking obviously are not analyzing the game as it should be analyzed/broken down. Purdy was on a different level than Jimmy (PPG and extending/making plays not to mention he did not have Deebo Samuel for quite a few games and that does make a big difference). I love how people conveniently forget to mention that especially people that want to defend Lance and actually prop up Jimmy G just to take Purdys accomplishments down a peg.

Also, most of the time these are people that did not like Jimmy Garoppolo too much but they have to defend him now just to put Purdy down a little bit. When the truth is Purdy's accomplishments were close to all time for a rookie starter as he broke many records.

Now, I'm a big fan of Jimmy, so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I think people are crapping on him a bit too much to make Brock look even better. I initially thought that Brock dramatically outplayed Jimmy, but after looking at a lot of offensive efficiency stats such as EPA/Play, Jimmy w/ CMC was on pace to be the most efficient QB in the league. Brock was 6th (which is still really good considering he was a rookie.) Jimmy was almost playing as well as he did in 2017 from an EPA/Play standpoint.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Now, I'm a big fan of Jimmy, so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I think people are crapping on him a bit too much to make Brock look even better. I initially thought that Brock dramatically outplayed Jimmy, but after looking at a lot of offensive efficiency stats such as EPA/Play, Jimmy w/ CMC was on pace to be the most efficient QB in the league. Brock was 6th (which is still really good considering he was a rookie.) Jimmy was almost playing as well as he did in 2017 from an EPA/Play standpoint.

I think a lot of people quickly forgot how well jimmy was playing this season before he got hurt. Outside of the Denver game, he was ballin. Making off schedule throws etc.

I've always been a pretty big fan of his, but I also understood that he had limitations - such as his deep game and scrambling. That stuff hurt us when it counted most but he also did some really great things for us, great teammate, tough as hell. I'm rooting for him in Vegas.

what was extremely impressive was that Brock was playing at the same caliber as jimmy (which he was playing his best ball), but added the element of deep throws and scrambling.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think a lot of people quickly forgot how well jimmy was playing this season before he got hurt. Outside of the Denver game, he was ballin. Making off schedule throws etc.

I've always been a pretty big fan of his, but I also understood that he had limitations - such as his deep game and scrambling. That stuff hurt us when it counted most but he also did some really great things for us, great teammate, tough as hell. I'm rooting for him in Vegas.

what was extremely impressive was that Brock was playing at the same caliber as jimmy (which he was playing his best ball), but added the element of deep throws and scrambling.

Brock was exactly what we were looking for. Improved play at the position with room to grow, at a fraction of the price. Our offense was at the top of the league with him behind center.

The hangup is the durability issue. Jimmy constantly got injured, and Brock suffered a serious injury at the worst time. Understanding the random nature of injuries, hopefully he returns at the same level physically and proves to be a durable player in the NFL.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Now, I'm a big fan of Jimmy, so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I think people are crapping on him a bit too much to make Brock look even better. I initially thought that Brock dramatically outplayed Jimmy, but after looking at a lot of offensive efficiency stats such as EPA/Play, Jimmy w/ CMC was on pace to be the most efficient QB in the league. Brock was 6th (which is still really good considering he was a rookie.) Jimmy was almost playing as well as he did in 2017 from an EPA/Play standpoint.

I think a lot of people quickly forgot how well jimmy was playing this season before he got hurt. Outside of the Denver game, he was ballin. Making off schedule throws etc.

I've always been a pretty big fan of his, but I also understood that he had limitations - such as his deep game and scrambling. That stuff hurt us when it counted most but he also did some really great things for us, great teammate, tough as hell. I'm rooting for him in Vegas.

what was extremely impressive was that Brock was playing at the same caliber as jimmy (which he was playing his best ball), but added the element of deep throws and scrambling.

Jimmy didn't know the plays and couldn't read defenses. sometimes, he was scared to throw the ball. He held the offense back. Brock was able to let the offense flow. That's what widens the gap between the two tremendously.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think a lot of people quickly forgot how well jimmy was playing this season before he got hurt. Outside of the Denver game, he was ballin. Making off schedule throws etc.

I've always been a pretty big fan of his, but I also understood that he had limitations - such as his deep game and scrambling. That stuff hurt us when it counted most but he also did some really great things for us, great teammate, tough as hell. I'm rooting for him in Vegas.

what was extremely impressive was that Brock was playing at the same caliber as jimmy (which he was playing his best ball), but added the element of deep throws and scrambling.

Brock was exactly what we were looking for. Improved play at the position with room to grow, at a fraction of the price. Our offense was at the top of the league with him behind center.

The hangup is the durability issue. Jimmy constantly got injured, and Brock suffered a serious injury at the worst time. Understanding the random nature of injuries, hopefully he returns at the same level physically and proves to be a durable player in the NFL.

Yeah, I loved pretty much everything about Brock's play. His football iq, mobility, accuracy, leadership, etc. there wasnt anything to hate on, imo. I can't wait to see how he looks after his first off season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jimmy didn't know the plays and couldn't read defenses. sometimes, he was scared to throw the ball. He held the offense back. Brock was able to let the offense flow. That's what widens the gap between the two tremendously.

top 10 all time win percent and rated and he doesn't even know the plays lol

I'm surprised Purdy isn't on the list.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

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I'm surprised Purdy isn't on the list.

Yeah, they couldn't keep Purdy jerseys in stock for a good while there. I was able to get one though

he was top in sales over the last 3 weeks or so of the regular season. I think a lot of fans are skeptical of his health and who will start, if he starts again this year - I imagine his sales will blow up. CMC led the league in sales for a week or two when he got here

I think Niner fans of Purdy are looking at his play through rose colored glasses just a bit. He was wonderful, but he was also very lucky at times. There were more than a couple times he threw passes that should have been intercepted. Had JG done that, as he did numerous times, folks on here would have ripped him a new a*****e. As I said Brock played very well, but he was lucky too. Just as JG played well to start his tenure here. Let's see how this season shakes out, maybe give ourselves a review mid-season. Recalculate our expectations as needed. My guess is Trey will be a happy surprise to many on here. He may just make a big jump from where he was when he last suited up , that will require some rethinking about what the team should do with the kids. Time will tell.

Originally posted by eastie:
I think Niner fans of Purdy are looking at his play through rose colored glasses just a bit. He was wonderful, but he was also very lucky at times. There were more than a couple times he threw passes that should have been intercepted. Had JG done that, as he did numerous times, folks on here would have ripped him a new a*****e. As I said Brock played very well, but he was lucky too. Just as JG played well to start his tenure here. Let's see how this season shakes out, maybe give ourselves a review mid-season. Recalculate our expectations as needed. My guess is Trey will be a happy surprise to many on here. He may just make a big jump from where he was when he last suited up , that will require some rethinking about what the team should do with the kids. Time will tell.

Brock definitely had approx 4-6 passes that were close calls, some just pure luck that the defender dropped it. I'd also argue that is just part of the game, except Purdy did do that more than you'd like over his stretch of games. I also think he did improve on that as he gained more experience. He didn't even throw a pick in the playoffs.

was Joe montana lucky that the bengals linebacker was hit right in the numbers and dropped the ball in the super bowl the play before the game winning touchdown to Taylor? Partially, but also doesn't mean he wasn't good.

i thought Purdy did a great job improving on issues like that, cause he did get lucky on more than im comfortable with. He's talked about it this off season when it comes to studying his Film, so I'm hoping he doesn't do it again.

the problem with jimmy is never learned from them. He was good for essentially 1-2 a game, consistently over numerous seasons. That's what annoyed me about it

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock definitely had approx 4-6 passes that were close calls, some just pure luck that the defender dropped it. I'd also argue that is just part of the game, except Purdy did do that more than you'd like over his stretch of games. I also think he did improve on that as he gained more experience. He didn't even throw a pick in the playoffs.

was Joe montana lucky that the bengals linebacker was hit right in the numbers and dropped the ball in the super bowl the play before the game winning touchdown to Taylor? Partially, but also doesn't mean he wasn't good.

i thought Purdy did a great job improving on issues like that, cause he did get lucky on more than im comfortable with. He's talked about it this off season when it comes to studying his Film, so I'm hoping he doesn't do it again.

the problem with jimmy is never learned from them. He was good for essentially 1-2 a game, consistently over numerous seasons. That's what annoyed me about it

Jimmy also was poor at seeing the field and getting thru progressions. Brock was very impressive with that. Gives me hope that his success is sustainable.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock definitely had approx 4-6 passes that were close calls, some just pure luck that the defender dropped it. I'd also argue that is just part of the game, except Purdy did do that more than you'd like over his stretch of games. I also think he did improve on that as he gained more experience. He didn't even throw a pick in the playoffs.

was Joe montana lucky that the bengals linebacker was hit right in the numbers and dropped the ball in the super bowl the play before the game winning touchdown to Taylor? Partially, but also doesn't mean he wasn't good.

i thought Purdy did a great job improving on issues like that, cause he did get lucky on more than im comfortable with. He's talked about it this off season when it comes to studying his Film, so I'm hoping he doesn't do it again.

the problem with jimmy is never learned from them. He was good for essentially 1-2 a game, consistently over numerous seasons. That's what annoyed me about it

Jimmy also was poor at seeing the field and getting thru progressions. Brock was very impressive with that. Gives me hope that his success is sustainable.

Yeah, he was very impressive in that regard. That's what I mean by I don't really have any concerns because it's mainly just adjustments - hitting reads quicker, footwork, reading the defense etc. Things that most rookies need to improve upon and comes with experience. He seems to have the hard stuff down and it's now just adjustments.

the simple answer to the comment I originally responded to - yes, he got lucky on some and needs to improve on that. He seemed to get better at that as he played more. If he keeps doing that next year, folks like me will start to get annoyed. Hahaha

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, he was very impressive in that regard. That's what I mean by I don't really have any concerns because it's mainly just adjustments - hitting reads quicker, footwork, reading the defense etc. Things that most rookies need to improve upon and comes with experience. He seems to have the hard stuff down and it's now just adjustments.

the simple answer to the comment I originally responded to - yes, he got lucky on some and needs to improve on that. He seemed to get better at that as he played more. If he keeps doing that next year, folks like me will start to get annoyed. Hahaha

The league always adjusts. Have to adjust back.