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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This. If Trey pans out, we will pass NE and Pittsburgh in the next few years, and reclaim our spot as the greatest franchise ever, with Purdy as the best backup in the league as insurance. If not, our D will channel 2001 Ravens and win it with smothering defense and Dirty Purdy's grit!
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The 49ers could have easily won the Super Bowl last year if Brock hadn't sufffered a freak injury.
The ranking is irrelevant and made up.
Should've would've could've
Originally posted by eric_anthony:Should've would've could've
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Should've would've could've
Just could have, and it is totally obvious.
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
I am excited to see him play again too. I havent been this excited over a QB prospect in forever.
But with that being said, I am trying to pump the breaks a bit. While we havent seen very many QBs, if any, light the football world on fire so quickly like Purdy did, we also have seen plenty of QBs have instant success and just fizzle out. Now based on Purdy's play, he has not given me any reason to believe he is a flash in the pan, he is coming off a major injury. So while his ceiling and floor both look high, we really have no way of knowing if Purdy will be the same player, still be ascending, etc.
All we can be is cautiously optimistic about him moving forward.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
so June 2 is the Brock is Back Day, when he can start throwing... 3 weeks!
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
so June 2 is the Brock is Back Day, when he can start throwing... 3 weeks!
Yes, sir! That's a Friday, so I'm hoping he is a little ahead of schedule and starts throwing earlier in that week 😈.
Although it's not likely, I'm still hoping. Hahah
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
so June 2 is the Brock is Back Day, when he can start throwing... 3 weeks!
Yes, sir! That's a Friday, so I'm hoping he is a little ahead of schedule and starts throwing earlier in that week 😈.
Although it's not likely, I'm still hoping. Hahah
Just so you guys keep those expectations in check...just cuz he's clear to throw doesn't mean he's going to be practicing with the guys.
But hopefully his recovery goes better than expected and he's out there fully cleared with no ill effects of the injury sooner rather than later!
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
I am excited to see him play again too. I havent been this excited over a QB prospect in forever.
But with that being said, I am trying to pump the breaks a bit. While we havent seen very many QBs, if any, light the football world on fire so quickly like Purdy did, we also have seen plenty of QBs have instant success and just fizzle out. Now based on Purdy's play, he has not given me any reason to believe he is a flash in the pan, he is coming off a major injury. So while his ceiling and floor both look high, we really have no way of knowing if Purdy will be the same player, still be ascending, etc.
All we can be is cautiously optimistic about him moving forward.
The injury is definitely concerning but I'm confident that he will come back in tip top shape. Everything I've read and watched regarding the injury, Purdy has had about the best case scenario the whole way since surgery. His tissue was healthy, he's young and doesn't have much wear (Big Ben had like 14 years of wear), and rehab has gone really well so far.
outside of the injury, I'm very confident that he will continue playing at the same level or better. He's dedicated his time to improving his game this season and gained very valuable experience last season - especially playing in the playoffs.
he didn't rely on any sort of physical talent to play well (Like Murray does etc), he played the qb position at a high level. Very accurate, hit a lot of tight window throws, lead tons of scoring drives, clutch, efficient etc. just played quarterback at a high level, not like a wildcat qb that is only effective when they have to depend on their athleticism.
There really wasn't anything he did poorly, to where it raised red flags. There are a lot of things he can improve on, obviously, but nothing that should concern anyone to where he get worse. He could regress, no doubt, but we haven't seen any reason that should happen besides the injury rehab causing problems. I can't think of anything that he was "bad" at and that's extremely impressive. Still shocked he played so damn well and confident for a 7th round rookie - it's literally historical. Lol so awesome!
i just can't wait for him to heal up and see how he looks. I'm hoping his arm has some more velocity on it 😍.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This. If Trey pans out, we will pass NE and Pittsburgh in the next few years, and reclaim our spot as the greatest franchise ever, with Purdy as the best backup in the league as insurance. If not, our D will channel 2001 Ravens and win it with smothering defense and Dirty Purdy's grit!
If "X" pans out...
Put me in, coach.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
I am excited to see him play again too. I havent been this excited over a QB prospect in forever.
But with that being said, I am trying to pump the breaks a bit. While we havent seen very many QBs, if any, light the football world on fire so quickly like Purdy did, we also have seen plenty of QBs have instant success and just fizzle out. Now based on Purdy's play, he has not given me any reason to believe he is a flash in the pan, he is coming off a major injury. So while his ceiling and floor both look high, we really have no way of knowing if Purdy will be the same player, still be ascending, etc.
All we can be is cautiously optimistic about him moving forward.
The injury is definitely concerning but I'm confident that he will come back in tip top shape. Everything I've read and watched regarding the injury, Purdy has had about the best case scenario the whole way since surgery. His tissue was healthy, he's young and doesn't have much wear (Big Ben had like 14 years of wear), and rehab has gone really well so far.
outside of the injury, I'm very confident that he will continue playing at the same level or better. He's dedicated his time to improving his game this season and gained very valuable experience last season - especially playing in the playoffs.
he didn't rely on any sort of physical talent to play well (Like Murray does etc), he played the qb position at a high level. Very accurate, hit a lot of tight window throws, lead tons of scoring drives, clutch, efficient etc. just played quarterback at a high level, not like a wildcat qb that is only effective when they have to depend on their athleticism.
There really wasn't anything he did poorly, to where it raised red flags. There are a lot of things he can improve on, obviously, but nothing that should concern anyone to where he get worse. He could regress, no doubt, but we haven't seen any reason that should happen besides the injury rehab causing problems. I can't think of anything that he was "bad" at and that's extremely impressive. Still shocked he played so damn well and confident for a 7th round rookie - it's literally historical. Lol so awesome!
i just can't wait for him to heal up and see how he looks. I'm hoping his arm has some more velocity on it 😍.
Ultimately I want Purdy ready for the playoffs. If I could wish for anything it would be that. So part of me is wondering if rushing him back for week one would increase the odds of another injury that limits his availability in the postseason, and part of me just thinks Purdy should play as soon as he's ready because IMO he gives us the best chance to win.
My question to you is, is it fair to hope that Lance plays at least a couple weeks, possibly 4-6 weeks which improves his trade value, then Purdy takes over from there?
Obviously, I'm not going to be upset if Purdy starts every game. That would be fantastic, but I worry with our consistent injury issues at the QB position, that it could force either Trey or Sam to finish the season with no regular season reps. That's not what anyone wants from what I gather from this forum.
I just think this negative situation (Purdy being injured) could result in something positive… in that we could have our cake and eat it too. Meaning, Trey improves his trade value early in the season and Purdy gets more time to rehab and reduces the amount of hits he takes before the playoffs.
Is that fair or no?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
I am excited to see him play again too. I havent been this excited over a QB prospect in forever.
But with that being said, I am trying to pump the breaks a bit. While we havent seen very many QBs, if any, light the football world on fire so quickly like Purdy did, we also have seen plenty of QBs have instant success and just fizzle out. Now based on Purdy's play, he has not given me any reason to believe he is a flash in the pan, he is coming off a major injury. So while his ceiling and floor both look high, we really have no way of knowing if Purdy will be the same player, still be ascending, etc.
All we can be is cautiously optimistic about him moving forward.
The injury is definitely concerning but I'm confident that he will come back in tip top shape. Everything I've read and watched regarding the injury, Purdy has had about the best case scenario the whole way since surgery. His tissue was healthy, he's young and doesn't have much wear (Big Ben had like 14 years of wear), and rehab has gone really well so far.
outside of the injury, I'm very confident that he will continue playing at the same level or better. He's dedicated his time to improving his game this season and gained very valuable experience last season - especially playing in the playoffs.
he didn't rely on any sort of physical talent to play well (Like Murray does etc), he played the qb position at a high level. Very accurate, hit a lot of tight window throws, lead tons of scoring drives, clutch, efficient etc. just played quarterback at a high level, not like a wildcat qb that is only effective when they have to depend on their athleticism.
There really wasn't anything he did poorly, to where it raised red flags. There are a lot of things he can improve on, obviously, but nothing that should concern anyone to where he get worse. He could regress, no doubt, but we haven't seen any reason that should happen besides the injury rehab causing problems. I can't think of anything that he was "bad" at and that's extremely impressive. Still shocked he played so damn well and confident for a 7th round rookie - it's literally historical. Lol so awesome!
i just can't wait for him to heal up and see how he looks. I'm hoping his arm has some more velocity on it 😍.
Ultimately I want Purdy ready for the playoffs. If I could wish for anything it would be that. So part of me is wondering if rushing him back for week one would increase the odds of another injury that limits his availability in the postseason, and part of me just thinks Purdy should play as soon as he's ready because IMO he gives us the best chance to win.
My question to you is, is it fair to hope that Lance plays at least a couple weeks, possibly 4-6 weeks which improves his trade value, then Purdy takes over from there?
Obviously, I'm not going to be upset if Purdy starts every game. That would be fantastic, but I worry with our consistent injury issues at the QB position, that it could force either Trey or Sam to finish the season with no regular season reps. That's not what anyone wants from what I gather from this forum.
I just think this negative situation (Purdy being injured) could result in something positive… in that we could have our cake and eat it too. Meaning, Trey improves his trade value early in the season and Purdy gets more time to rehab and reduces the amount of hits he takes before the playoffs.
Is that fair or no?
Under no circumstances should we rush him back. If he doesn't feel right, he should take the week off and be reassessed. I'm going off of the medical timeline of 6 months, assuming that the time frame is adequate enough for a full recovery.
hmmm I wouldn't play Lance just to see if he can improve his value. I want to see him beat out Darnold first, because if he can't do that, then playing him would be a disaster anyways. I also think it would depend a lot on who our first 4 - 6 games will be against. I personally don't think he would help his value much if those are tough teams. Then again, he could be much improved.. idk. I just don't know why he would be significantly better after a major injury and getting essentially no additional experience.
i 100% understand what you're saying and the business move behind it. I just question that he would look good enough to really change his trade value, he would have to ball out and then at that point, why trade him? You know.
IF Purdy isn't ready week 1, I'd like to see whoever wins out between Darnold and Lance. If Lance can't beat him out, that's a serious problem.
i still question that we will keep all 3. Being a backup, especially a third string, is much much different in regards to responsibilities than a starter has during the week. They're essentially assistance coaches, they try to get the defense ready as the scout team QB and third string doesn't get any reps. So if I'm Lance or Darnold and I'm third string, I want to go elsewhere. I personally don't see us keeping all three and assume whoever loses the battle will get traded - even if it's not much. It'll depend a lot on injuries for other teams too, that could increase their value. Especially if you're a team like the commanders.
Final 49ers QB training camp stats.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) August 12, 2021
Jimmy Garoppolo: 128-204 (62.7%), 7 TDs, 6 INTs
Trey Lance: 115-167 (68.9%), 11 TDs (2 rushing), 2 INTs
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by tankle104:
i can't wait for some more Purdy, baby! He's about to be chokin defenses out!
I am excited to see him play again too. I havent been this excited over a QB prospect in forever.
But with that being said, I am trying to pump the breaks a bit. While we havent seen very many QBs, if any, light the football world on fire so quickly like Purdy did, we also have seen plenty of QBs have instant success and just fizzle out. Now based on Purdy's play, he has not given me any reason to believe he is a flash in the pan, he is coming off a major injury. So while his ceiling and floor both look high, we really have no way of knowing if Purdy will be the same player, still be ascending, etc.
All we can be is cautiously optimistic about him moving forward.
The injury is definitely concerning but I'm confident that he will come back in tip top shape. Everything I've read and watched regarding the injury, Purdy has had about the best case scenario the whole way since surgery. His tissue was healthy, he's young and doesn't have much wear (Big Ben had like 14 years of wear), and rehab has gone really well so far.
outside of the injury, I'm very confident that he will continue playing at the same level or better. He's dedicated his time to improving his game this season and gained very valuable experience last season - especially playing in the playoffs.
he didn't rely on any sort of physical talent to play well (Like Murray does etc), he played the qb position at a high level. Very accurate, hit a lot of tight window throws, lead tons of scoring drives, clutch, efficient etc. just played quarterback at a high level, not like a wildcat qb that is only effective when they have to depend on their athleticism.
There really wasn't anything he did poorly, to where it raised red flags. There are a lot of things he can improve on, obviously, but nothing that should concern anyone to where he get worse. He could regress, no doubt, but we haven't seen any reason that should happen besides the injury rehab causing problems. I can't think of anything that he was "bad" at and that's extremely impressive. Still shocked he played so damn well and confident for a 7th round rookie - it's literally historical. Lol so awesome!
i just can't wait for him to heal up and see how he looks. I'm hoping his arm has some more velocity on it 😍.
Ultimately I want Purdy ready for the playoffs. If I could wish for anything it would be that. So part of me is wondering if rushing him back for week one would increase the odds of another injury that limits his availability in the postseason, and part of me just thinks Purdy should play as soon as he's ready because IMO he gives us the best chance to win.
My question to you is, is it fair to hope that Lance plays at least a couple weeks, possibly 4-6 weeks which improves his trade value, then Purdy takes over from there?
Obviously, I'm not going to be upset if Purdy starts every game. That would be fantastic, but I worry with our consistent injury issues at the QB position, that it could force either Trey or Sam to finish the season with no regular season reps. That's not what anyone wants from what I gather from this forum.
I just think this negative situation (Purdy being injured) could result in something positive… in that we could have our cake and eat it too. Meaning, Trey improves his trade value early in the season and Purdy gets more time to rehab and reduces the amount of hits he takes before the playoffs.
Is that fair or no?
Under no circumstances should we rush him back. If he doesn't feel right, he should take the week off and be reassessed. I'm going off of the medical timeline of 6 months, assuming that the time frame is adequate enough for a full recovery.
hmmm I wouldn't play Lance just to see if he can improve his value. I want to see him beat out Darnold first, because if he can't do that, then playing him would be a disaster anyways. I also think it would depend a lot on who our first 4 - 6 games will be against. I personally don't think he would help his value much if those are tough teams. Then again, he could be much improved.. idk. I just don't know why he would be significantly better after a major injury and getting essentially no additional experience.
i 100% understand what you're saying and the business move behind it. I just question that he would look good enough to really change his trade value, he would have to ball out and then at that point, why trade him? You know.
IF Purdy isn't ready week 1, I'd like to see whoever wins out between Darnold and Lance. If Lance can't beat him out, that's a serious problem.
i still question that we will keep all 3. Being a backup, especially a third string, is much much different in regards to responsibilities than a starter has during the week. They're essentially assistance coaches, they try to get the defense ready as the scout team QB and third string doesn't get any reps. So if I'm Lance or Darnold and I'm third string, I want to go elsewhere. I personally don't see us keeping all three and assume whoever loses the battle will get traded - even if it's not much. It'll depend a lot on injuries for other teams too, that could increase their value. Especially if you're a team like the commanders.
I still think the 49ers will give special treatment to Lance and give him every opportunity to be the starter until Purdy is ready.
The 49ers nor any team will ever say that players get special treatment over others, but it happens all the time in the NFL, and I think giving up three first round picks warrants special treatment.
So unless Sam makes Trey look like Scott Tolzien early in camp, I expect Trey to receive the first team reps, which nullifies the idea of a "camp battle" since teams value continuity going into week 1. In other words, I don't believe there will be a true QB competition like everyone assumes there will be.
I could be wrong about this but similar to Trey's first year, I don't believe that was a true QB competition either, as I believe their plan was to sit Lance all along. If you looked at Lance's "statistics" from his rookie camp, they appeared better than Jimmy's. That's why I think this idea Sam and Trey will battle it out in camp is misguided... there's more factors in play than just their performance in camp.
Final 49ers QB training camp stats.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) August 12, 2021
Jimmy Garoppolo: 128-204 (62.7%), 7 TDs, 6 INTs
Trey Lance: 115-167 (68.9%), 11 TDs (2 rushing), 2 INTs
"The notion that Lance could overtake Garoppolo early in the season, which seemed so farfetched on draft day and after OTAs, appears far more realistic today," - Matt Barrows
As for his trade value, I could see it going either way. I mean, he only has to win 2 games to have a winning record. Fans have rightfully or IMO wrongfully taken so much from such a small sample size, if you're one of those people, then I don't see how he couldn't drastically improve his value with just a couple of games.