QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

I think there are two ways to look at it:
1. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he will always be like that, at least in some capacity.
2. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he learned from it and it will be a rare occurrence going forward (even the best do it from time to time)

usually, I think if someone does that, like Romo, they will always do that because they crumble under pressure. What gives me optimism with Purdy is that he's talked about it and how learned from it etc. he also hasn't done it so far in the nfl - So, I'm optimistic it was a learning curve he got out of the way in college.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

I think there are two ways to look at it:
1. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he will always be like that, at least in some capacity.
2. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he learned from it and it will be a rare occurrence going forward (even the best do it from time to time)

usually, I think if someone does that, like Romo, they will always do that because they crumble under pressure. What gives me optimism with Purdy is that he's talked about it and how learned from it etc. he also hasn't done it so far in the nfl - So, I'm optimistic it was a learning curve he got out of the way in college.

I agree with this. I'm incredibly optimistic about Purdy as well. I've always tried to play devils advocate to strengthen my own beliefs on players. Sometimes that's viewed as hating but Purdy is the kind of QB I've wanted to have all my life. Again, if I was a betting man, I'd say Purdy would be a superstar very soon if he isn't already.

I also genuinely loved Romo's game. I think if Purdy could be as good as Romo throughout his career individually, we would be in great shape. But based on last season, and the team we have around Purdy, it wouldn't shock me at all if Purdy is much better than him. I personally don't view Romo as the guy that chokes in big games, I think in general the Cowboys choked. We just have a team that Romo didn't.

need me some damn Brock Purdy rehab news

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

I think there are two ways to look at it:
1. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he will always be like that, at least in some capacity.
2. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he learned from it and it will be a rare occurrence going forward (even the best do it from time to time)

usually, I think if someone does that, like Romo, they will always do that because they crumble under pressure. What gives me optimism with Purdy is that he's talked about it and how learned from it etc. he also hasn't done it so far in the nfl - So, I'm optimistic it was a learning curve he got out of the way in college.

I agree with this. I'm incredibly optimistic about Purdy as well. I've always tried to play devils advocate to strengthen my own beliefs on players. Sometimes that's viewed as hating but Purdy is the kind of QB I've wanted to have all my life. Again, if I was a betting man, I'd say Purdy would be a superstar very soon if he isn't already.

I also genuinely loved Romo's game. I think if Purdy could be as good as Romo throughout his career individually, we would be in great shape. But based on last season, and the team we have around Purdy, it wouldn't shock me at all if Purdy is much better than him. I personally don't view Romo as the guy that chokes in big games, I think in general the Cowboys choked. We just have a team that Romo didn't.

Same, Purdy is what I consider the ideal qb and can be a superstar. He's shown a plethora of top qb traits, albeit in a small sample size, but the fact he showed it as a rookie - is simply amazing.

i think romo got shafted his last year and cowboys would of had an excellent opportunity to win it all that year, so I was obviously happy he was benched. Lol I think Purdy can be better than romo, personally, but romo was a stud. I do think he choked at times but he also had such few opportunities in the playoffs that it's hard to tell if he grew out of that.

brock crushed it in every way last season, a lot of high pressure tests too. He obviously wasn't perfect, no rookie is, but the things he didn't do well are not too worrisome. Even the running out of a clean pocket to the left was something he improved on and didn't get baited to it as much in the cowboys game. They were trying too.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

I think there are two ways to look at it:
1. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he will always be like that, at least in some capacity.
2. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he learned from it and it will be a rare occurrence going forward (even the best do it from time to time)

usually, I think if someone does that, like Romo, they will always do that because they crumble under pressure. What gives me optimism with Purdy is that he's talked about it and how learned from it etc. he also hasn't done it so far in the nfl - So, I'm optimistic it was a learning curve he got out of the way in college.

I agree with this. I'm incredibly optimistic about Purdy as well. I've always tried to play devils advocate to strengthen my own beliefs on players. Sometimes that's viewed as hating but Purdy is the kind of QB I've wanted to have all my life. Again, if I was a betting man, I'd say Purdy would be a superstar very soon if he isn't already.

I also genuinely loved Romo's game. I think if Purdy could be as good as Romo throughout his career individually, we would be in great shape. But based on last season, and the team we have around Purdy, it wouldn't shock me at all if Purdy is much better than him. I personally don't view Romo as the guy that chokes in big games, I think in general the Cowboys choked. We just have a team that Romo didn't.

Same, Purdy is what I consider the ideal qb and can be a superstar. He's shown a plethora of top qb traits, albeit in a small sample size, but the fact he showed it as a rookie - is simply amazing.

i think romo got shafted his last year and cowboys would of had an excellent opportunity to win it all that year, so I was obviously happy he was benched. Lol I think Purdy can be better than romo, personally, but romo was a stud. I do think he choked at times but he also had such few opportunities in the playoffs that it's hard to tell if he grew out of that.

brock crushed it in every way last season, a lot of high pressure tests too. He obviously wasn't perfect, no rookie is, but the things he didn't do well are not too worrisome. Even the running out of a clean pocket to the left was something he improved on and didn't get baited to it as much in the cowboys game. They were trying too.

My favorite thing about Purdy is that he creates opportunities to throw in situations that would normally become a throw away or sack or pick. He has incredible quickness and the ability to reset his throwing platform after being moved off his original spot. Because ultimately I never cared too much about having a QB who can take off and run. But having a QB who can make people miss in a phone booth is really important.

That and his ability to keep plays alive along the sidelines. Whether that's just to throw the ball away or complete a pass, he doesn't just run out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage like we saw Kaepernick do several times.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
need me some damn Brock Purdy rehab news

I say sit him for the whole year... give this year to Lance.. but we should draft the T-Rob out of UCLA..

Good luck to, Dirty and the rest of the Dirty's this season.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

need me some damn Brock Purdy rehab news

I say sit him for the whole year... give this year to Lance.. but we should draft the T-Rob out of UCLA..

You pretty much wanna throw the season lol. That won't happen. If Trey earns that spot then he will play, but he won't be given anything. He'll get traded before they give him the starting job

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
the first one is bad. the following three were more fumbles than throwing INTs. not sure where you get "worst timed interceptions of any QB in college football history." that claim seems hyperbolic.

cuz it is

True. A better way of putting it was that he made WTF plays near the end of games. Similar to Romo… which was my comparison for him. The video only shows a couple plays, but that was a knock on Purdy during the draft process. Hence why he almost went undrafted.

Its a concern of mine, but like I said in my OP, it hasn't materialized in the pros. So far so good. I'm excited to see him play next season.

I think there are two ways to look at it:
1. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he will always be like that, at least in some capacity.
2. He threw poorly timed INT/turnovers that cost his team the games and he learned from it and it will be a rare occurrence going forward (even the best do it from time to time)

usually, I think if someone does that, like Romo, they will always do that because they crumble under pressure. What gives me optimism with Purdy is that he's talked about it and how learned from it etc. he also hasn't done it so far in the nfl - So, I'm optimistic it was a learning curve he got out of the way in college.

I agree with this. I'm incredibly optimistic about Purdy as well. I've always tried to play devils advocate to strengthen my own beliefs on players. Sometimes that's viewed as hating but Purdy is the kind of QB I've wanted to have all my life. Again, if I was a betting man, I'd say Purdy would be a superstar very soon if he isn't already.

I also genuinely loved Romo's game. I think if Purdy could be as good as Romo throughout his career individually, we would be in great shape. But based on last season, and the team we have around Purdy, it wouldn't shock me at all if Purdy is much better than him. I personally don't view Romo as the guy that chokes in big games, I think in general the Cowboys choked. We just have a team that Romo didn't.

Same, Purdy is what I consider the ideal qb and can be a superstar. He's shown a plethora of top qb traits, albeit in a small sample size, but the fact he showed it as a rookie - is simply amazing.

i think romo got shafted his last year and cowboys would of had an excellent opportunity to win it all that year, so I was obviously happy he was benched. Lol I think Purdy can be better than romo, personally, but romo was a stud. I do think he choked at times but he also had such few opportunities in the playoffs that it's hard to tell if he grew out of that.

brock crushed it in every way last season, a lot of high pressure tests too. He obviously wasn't perfect, no rookie is, but the things he didn't do well are not too worrisome. Even the running out of a clean pocket to the left was something he improved on and didn't get baited to it as much in the cowboys game. They were trying too.

My favorite thing about Purdy is that he creates opportunities to throw in situations that would normally become a throw away or sack or pick. He has incredible quickness and the ability to reset his throwing platform after being moved off his original spot. Because ultimately I never cared too much about having a QB who can take off and run. But having a QB who can make people miss in a phone booth is really important.

That and his ability to keep plays alive along the sidelines. Whether that's just to throw the ball away or complete a pass, he doesn't just run out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage like we saw Kaepernick do several times.

I agree! I prefer my qb to be able to make a play when things break down, and as an absolute last case scenario, run for a few yards. I mainly want the qb passing though and creating opportunities for the skill positions. I love the confidence and ball placement when he does that too. At first I thought he may of just been getting lucky but he did it over and over again, eventually you could tell he was gaining confidence in them and made that amazing throw you Aiyuk in the playoffs that was dropped.

his football IQ is astounding too. Like his overall awareness of the game and all the moving parts on a play, it often mitigated failed plays from becoming worse, which is a win on a failed play.

i also like that he is very stead on the field emotions wise, his dads coach in the minor leagues said Brock's dad was super reliable as a closer because he was always so calm regardless of the situation.

Double post oopsie

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about ????

No difference

At what point can elite play be recognized?

I mean generally speaking do it for an entire season and you're 90% there. Finish your next season as the reason your team is winning or putting up points and that's it. You're elite for the next few years.

This is criteria to say a player is elite, not to acknowledge elite play

Yes. Any guy can have a shirt burst of elite play. But only elite guys can consistently do it.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about 😎

No difference

At what point can elite play be recognized?

I mean generally speaking do it for an entire season and you're 90% there. Finish your next season as the reason your team is winning or putting up points and that's it. You're elite for the next few years.

Or just say dude is playing elite football.
Brock had played elite football over his entire NFL career.

I suspect he has, minus his brief appearance against KC.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about ????

No difference

At what point can elite play be recognized?

I mean generally speaking do it for an entire season and you're 90% there. Finish your next season as the reason your team is winning or putting up points and that's it. You're elite for the next few years.

This is criteria to say a player is elite, not to acknowledge elite play

Yes. Any guy can have a shirt burst of elite play. But only elite guys can consistently do it.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about 😎

No difference

At what point can elite play be recognized?

I mean generally speaking do it for an entire season and you're 90% there. Finish your next season as the reason your team is winning or putting up points and that's it. You're elite for the next few years.

Or just say dude is playing elite football.
Brock had played elite football over his entire NFL career.

I suspect he has, minus his brief appearance against KC.

That's the only point we were making. That elite play can be recognized even though the QB is not considered elite.

His KC appearance was actually more promising for me than anything. I was like "damn so much for that" after the pick, but I'm glad he got to show the rest of that drive wasn't just a garbage time fluke. He looked good outside of one throw

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
That's the only point we were making. That elite play can be recognized even though the QB is not considered elite.

His KC appearance was actually more promising for me than anything. I was like "damn so much for that" after the pick, but I'm glad he got to show the rest of that drive wasn't just a garbage time fluke. He looked good outside of one throw

It was also a completely meaningless play in the context of the game. Might as well cut it loose and see what happens. It's not a horrible thing for a rookie to take chances in an effort to feel things out adjusting to the pro game... especially in garbage time.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
That's the only point we were making. That elite play can be recognized even though the QB is not considered elite.

His KC appearance was actually more promising for me than anything. I was like "damn so much for that" after the pick, but I'm glad he got to show the rest of that drive wasn't just a garbage time fluke. He looked good outside of one throw

It was also a completely meaningless play in the context of the game. Might as well cut it loose and see what happens. It's not a horrible thing for a rookie to take chances in an effort to feel things out adjusting to the pro game... especially in garbage time.

That int in the KC game is similar to how I look at our trade up for Lance.
i love the aggressiveness and the willingness of our team/qb to take big shots to get what is important. Sometimes it doesn't work and you learn from it. I'm not saying Lance was a bad pick, I just mean the effort to take that chance.