QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Yup. There seems to be a prevailing thought that in order to be elite you need elite physical traits. That has just never been reality even if the top guys now have those traits.

Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Drew Brees would all be elite today in their primes. The only elite physical trait in that group is Tom Brady's height.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Yup. There seems to be a prevailing thought that in order to be elite you need elite physical traits. That has just never been reality even if the top guys now have those traits.

Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Drew Brees would all be elite today in their primes. The only elite physical trait in that group is Tom Brady's height.

If all holds true about players usually getting a stronger arm, Brock will be that much better!

i wonder if it will happen to him though because he doesn't use his UCL for velocity in his throws. Most QBs dont.

his arm was much better than I expected last season though. He had that massive improvement because his off season training after his senior year.

Originally posted by tankle104:
If all holds true about players usually getting a stronger arm, Brock will be that much better!

i wonder if it will happen to him though because he doesn't use his UCL for velocity in his throws. Most QBs dont.

his arm was much better than I expected last season though. He had that massive improvement because his off season training after his senior year.

We'll just have to see what he looks like after the injury. There's seemingly good logic behind the idea that his arm could be stronger just because he will have to build it up in a uniquely different way than normal through his rehab.

That said I thought his arm strength last year was average at best. I just don't think having a strong arm is necessary to be a great QB. It just helps and is a luxury. If you have arm strength at a baseline level good enough to play in the NFL, other things are much more important like accuracy, decision making, vision, poise, etc.

We can spend the rest of our lives waiting for the next Mahomes and he's not necessarily ever coming through that door. I promise you actual Mahomes is not going to win the Super Bowl every season however.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If all holds true about players usually getting a stronger arm, Brock will be that much better!

i wonder if it will happen to him though because he doesn't use his UCL for velocity in his throws. Most QBs dont.

his arm was much better than I expected last season though. He had that massive improvement because his off season training after his senior year.

We'll just have to see what he looks like after the injury. There's seemingly good logic behind the idea that his arm could be stronger just because he will have to build it up in a uniquely different way than normal through his rehab.

That said I thought his arm strength last year was average at best. I just don't think having a strong arm is necessary to be a great QB. It just helps and is a luxury. If you have arm strength at a baseline level good enough to play in the NFL, other things are much more important like accuracy, decision making, vision, poise, etc.

We can spend the rest of our lives waiting for the next Mahomes and he's not necessarily ever coming through that door. I promise you actual Mahomes is not going to win the Super Bowl every season however.

Yeah, I guess a better way for me to say it was that his arm had more velocity on it in the short to mid range game that I saw on his college film, which was a pleasant surprise.

Someone posted players MPH recorded on their throws and I was surprised that Brock's was actually on the higher end with 55-56 MPH. I think that's an imperfect science on measuring arm strength, but I thought that was cool data.

i don't think we've ever seen a player like mahommes. His instincts for the game and the windows he fits the ball in are just… incredible. Idk how else to describe it. I think it's foolish to draft players that you think will be the same as a current/former great.

i personally look for QBs who show intangibles on the field, you usually see that from guys who play a lot and have to carry a team and elevate the play around him. Physically, they just need to be "good enough" - which is a little subjective but I think most know what I mean when I say that.

it's just so hard to identify "intangibles" and measure them. The traits you mentioned above are part of them. It's also things like reading spacial awareness as the plays developing/adjusting where you're going to throw it/angle/touch/timing/placement - all in a split second. Some folks minds just work that way, mahommes is definitely one of them.

It's so hard to identify because how do you measure how someone else thinks!? Lol

then you have to have composure, leadership, emotional maturity, extreme confidence etc. finding someone with everything we are saying is the trick. Lol it's rare.

Which is why elite QBs are so so rare and hard to find. Just about everyone in the nfl can make the throws, tell your how a play works, what a defense is doing etc. its coupling all of it and the things we mentioned and making split second decisions.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

Thanks for the feedback.

https://youtu.be/XuWNLZUNp3Q

preach! #amen hahaha

Nothing super insightful to add here except I miss me some damn BP. QB1 my ❤️

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about 😎

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about 😎

No difference

friendly reminder:

Brock Purdy has never lost a game in which he played more than 3 quarters in

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
friendly reminder:

Brock Purdy has never lost a game in which he played more than 3 quarters in

Friendly reminder:

Winning is not a QB stat unless it's against the Texans with the season on the line

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Elite

Love the non-committal 1-worders.

but no one is calling him elite

There is a difference between calling him an elite player and saying he played at an elite level in his stretch of games. Two very different things.

to be an elite player - that requires consistency.

He hasn't done that yet. Hopefully this season. I'm feeling good about 😎

No difference

At what point can elite play be recognized?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
friendly reminder:

Brock Purdy has never lost a game in which he played more than 3 quarters in

Friendly reminder:

Winning is not a QB stat unless it's against the Texans with the season on the line

The win isn't why people say he did well. It was because in that second half he made a bunch of big time plays.