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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
BCB is gonna be back... if we get Cousins then there is no rush to bring him back too quickly and let his elbow heal properly
Cousins is old mediocre and expensive.
Brock >>> Cousins
Cousins has played in 16 or more games in 8 straight seasons. Brock already has had more significant injuries than Cousins has had during that time. If we can trade for Cousins, we should do it. He may be only slightly better than Jimmy, but at least he's reliable which is more than any other QB in the KS era can say.
He folds like cheap suit in big games.
Paying top dollar for a QB should get you top qb play, not average play.
No different than the other QBs we've had under Kyle. At least he stays healthy.
Brock never folded.
He kind of did against the Eagles. Part of winning big games is staying in them. We can say its a fluke injury, but its the kind of fluke that Cousins has avoided for 8 straight years whereas Brock was injured twice in 8 games.
This is such a dumb comment.
QBs can get injured at any point. That injury was super friggin flukey and Cousins sucking in big moments is way worse than Brock getting injured. Brock played in more games this season than Kirk did his first 2 years in the league anyways.
Not to mention Brock literally didn't fold. Hell if he folded on that play he wouldn't have gotten injured. Dude stood in there and took a hit.
QBs can get injured at any point, but some QBs clearly get injured more often than others. Brock also turned the ball over on that play, which was not exactly a great sign even before it turned out he was injured.
This is the same stupid logic that had people calling Bosa injury prone after his ACL tear. I don't care who you are but if you get hit at a certain point in the right spot or get enough weight on you in a certain spot you're getting injured.
Brock took a shot to the perfect spot at his most vulnerable point during the delivery. I highly doubt any QB is able to hold onto the ball there.
You equating an injury to folding is beyond crazy. If anything he didn't get the ball out with anticipation or spotted Reddick in time to try to protect himself and live to play another down.
That's more of a rookie mistake and not even anything crazy than anywhere near "folding". Like I said before folding actually would've been better on that play.
Cousins hasn't shown anything he can do better than what Brock did as a rookie and that's kind of crazy to think about given how many more games Kirk has played. Yes he's stayed healthy so perhaps there's a feather in his cap there but the way our season went last year…Cousins probably walks away on a stretcher as well. Then again maybe because he actually folds hed manage to stay healthy.
But no matter how you slice it…Brock > Cousins.
Brock already had two more injuries in 8 games than Cousins had in the last 8 years. You'd think that 49er fans, more than anyone else, would appreciate the value of durability. Sure, Purdy's injury in the NFCCG was fluky. All of Jimmy's injuries were pretty fluky on their own too, but they still kept happening. Some guys are clearly either more durable or do a better job of avoiding injury than others. The book is still open on Purdy's durability, but Cousins has proven to be durable over many years. QBs can do a lot to reduce their chance of injury including getting rid of the ball quickly, sliding, etc. Neither Trey or Purdy have demonstrated that they're particularly good at self-preservation.
Whether Purdy is better than Cousins is irrelevant (but its debatable since Purdy has such has a small sample size and played on a team with more talent than Cousins has ever played with.) I feel pretty confident that Cousins would have given us a better chance of winning the NFCCG than a mix of Purdy and Josh Johnson. I just want a QB that stays on the field.
First of all Brock played on a short week through the ribs injury. You mentioning that is pointless as Cousins and most other QBs have been dinged up through the season but played through things.
The UCL injury is so friggin bad luck related it can happen at any point. We've seen Kirk Cousins go to the Vikings team that had them go to the NFCCG with Case Keenum. He was supposed to be the guy to put them over the top.
They have just 2 playoff trips since then and never got past the 2nd round. Total choke job last year to a mediocre Giants team at home.
It's laughable to think Cousins makes the 49ers better than Brock did last year...better than Josh Johnson? That's not a shocker.
Every injury is bad luck, but some guys seem to get more unlucky than others. It remains to be seen whether Brock is one of those unlucky ones (like Jimmy and possibly Trey), but so far the signs are not good. The rib injury was more than just a minor nick as Brock couldn't practice leading up to the game and was in a lot of pain during it and if we had someone other than Josh Johnson as the backup, he probably would have sat.
Cousins for a full game certainly would have given us a better chance in the NFCCG than what we got out of Purdy and Josh Johnson. It doesn't matter if Purdy is overall the better player (debatable due to him having a much smaller sample size) if he isn't on the field.
The FO needs to value durability more. It burns us every year and every year they just hope for it to become magically better without changing anything.